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Just a reminder.. and an information


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The reminder: Today is Claire Elizabeth Beauchamp Randall Fraser's birthday, of course..

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The information (credit to Steven Cree on Twitter): Today is John Bell's birthday.

(Steve's tweet: https://twitter.com/MrStevenCree/status/789045840887308288)

Happy Birthday John Bell!! 🎇🎉

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Today is John Bell's birthday.

Happy birthday, John! 🎉🎊🎂
And welcome to your legendary virtual family. Read in your uncle Jamie’s tweet of the generous presents your dad wants you to have. The wooden leg sounds almost like a knightly accolade…
Wooden-leg wrestling comes to mind... 😊

Please, tell us same time next year what the best thing was you learned from your dad… 😁

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Read in your uncle Jamie’s tweet of the generous presents your dad want’s you to have. The wooden leg sounds almost like a knightly accolade…

You have to see John's & Steven's response to that:

https://twitter.com/JohnBell/status/789084134996119552

https://twitter.com/MrStevenCree/status/789093767252942848

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You have to see John's & Steven's response to that:

I know... Never mind. And I mixed intentionally the actions of real persons with the names of the characters to add to the confusion... and fun... 😆

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His 'dad' has given him some stuffed cabbage. LOL!

https://twitter.com/MrStevenCree/status/789045840887308288

And John Bell's reply: 

https://twitter.com/JohnBell/status/789079830386053120

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His 'dad' has given him some stuffed cabbage. LOL!

https://twitter.com/MrStevenCree/status/789045840887308288

And John Bell's reply:

https://twitter.com/JohnBell/status/789079830386053120


LOL. Depends with what he stuffed the cabbage... hmmm... something dark-brown, sweet and sticky comes to mind...
John could have been in for a surprise with his new dad and ‪#stuffedcabbagefortea‬ 😁

BTW, I’m still missing someone in this family. Young Ian is the second child of Ian and Jenny, right? They had this kid, Jamie, when Jamie went to Lallybroch. So, shouldn’t there be a young Jamie too?

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I'm not sure that they are going to show the entire family. We are missing more than one sibling , Ian and Jenny do have 7 children together with Ian been the sixth of the fratrie. We also have Robbie McNabb that was only a few years older than Jamie.

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Wasn't Young Ian the last child Jenny and Ian have? I remember Jenny saying to Jamie, just before giving birth to Young Ian, that this one's the last.

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Yes

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Oh, I didn't know they were so many. So, young Ian must be somehow more special than the other siblings that he gets more of an own story than they do. Thanks all for explaining.

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You'll see why in season 3...

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So, young Ian must be somehow more special than the other siblings that he gets more of an own story than they do.


He is very like Jamie, and more like a son to him than a nephew. My favourite book character after Jamie and Claire. I can't wait to see him on screen. 

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Jenny and Ian have about 7 children, Young Ian's the last one. Three sons, and 4 daughters..

What's so special about Young Ian: Jamie always thought of Young Ian as his own son, and Young Ian always saw Jamie as his father figure.. So, that's how the bond is between them. And Young Ian's always with Jamie and Claire, wherever they go.

Also, Young Ian is kind of Jamie 2.0.

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From the family tree in the handbook second volume , the last child of the fratrie is Caitlin Maisri, not Ian.

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the last child of the fratrie is Caitlin Maisri, not Ian.

Oh, Caitlin? Caitlin is the sixth child. She died in child birth.

Jenny feared the same would happen to Young Ian when English patrol came to Lallybroch on the day of his birth.

Here you go: http://outlander.wikia.com/wiki/Caitlin_Murray

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Ok, then somebody should tell Diana that her book is wrong and contains a mistake 

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I'd like to inform Diana that her books contain a lot of mistakes, but I don't think that's very nice of me...

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She knows. People tell her frequently. And to her credit, she does make notes and tells the publisher. I don't think she cares too much about dates and ages-Jamie's age and birthdate are probably never going to sync-but she does try to correct other things, I think. For example, Marsali's name is Marsali Jane MacKimmie Joyce in Voyager, when she marries Fergus. DG said that the names MacKimmie and Joyce were both there because she had not decided on the last name of her father. She went with MacKimmie and Joyce should have been omitted, but it wasn't. She and the editors missed it. DG said she would tell them about the mistake.

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I always looked at it as a middle name and last name getting switched around. Never thought of it as two last names.

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No, Joyce was a possible last name for Marsali's second husband's last name. DG put both names down because she hadn't decided which she wanted to use. She just forgot to remove the name she didn't choose. No one caught it, which I don't understand. What do editors do? I thought they edited. Aren't there proofreaders for manuscripts too? If I noticed the name was wrong immediately, I would think professional should have, too.

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I'd like to inform Diana that her books contain a lot of mistakes, but I don't think that's very nice of me...


Brilliant post! I just had to tell you how much that made me laugh. Yes, a thousand times

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I always thought Jamie and young Ian were so close because of young Ian's birth circumstances.

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True! I also think that Ian is very much Jamie's heir with similar characters ,more a son to him than even Older Ian.

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LOL!! Steven Cree is too funny..

https://twitter.com/MrStevenCree/status/789487837074821120

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LOL!! Steven Cree is too funny..

https://twitter.com/MrStevenCree/status/789487837074821120


😁😁😁

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LOL!! Steven Cree is too funny..

https://twitter.com/MrStevenCree/status/789487837074821120


And Sam's reply.

https://twitter.com/SamHeughan/status/789511414050349056?lang=en

More banter 

https://twitter.com/SamHeughan/status/789511608099799041?lang=en

https://twitter.com/MrStevenCree/status/789566896974753792?lang=en

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More from Steven Cree. I have no words:https://twitter.com/MrStevenCree/status/790933772329943040

"Heughan Talks".. Now that is a talk show I'd love to watch everyday.

And Sam's reply: https://twitter.com/SamHeughan/status/790935928407789568

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The reminder: Today is Claire Elizabeth Beauchamp Randall Fraser's birthday, of course..


Does anyone else think it odd that the books don't give a date for Brianna's birthday beyond November? We know Jamie and Claire's, although admittedly not much is made of them. After Claire left Brianna and went back in time, come November, we never see her wistful, or thinking of Brianna on that day especially. Jamie was always the one who seemed to know what day it was, not Claire, so maybe that is why.

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I thought it was November 23, 1948. I know it's in there, somewhere. I could be wrong on the 23rd, but that's what I'm remembering now.

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Thank you, I missed that. I'n usually quite good with dates and tend to spot them. Maybe it's time for a re-read....

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