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The best movie about war in Croatia


Finally one movie that clearly shows who is agressor and role of the JNA (Yugoslavian army, for so many years they were trying to present themselves as neutral army)

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The true face of war is something only a few are able to comprehend, without national sentiment to obstruct them. This movie doesn't bring anything new to the table, no new revelations since war on the Balkans is far from being a black and white picture with distinct borders, it's a mess of national, religious and generally human emotional contradictions. There are always (at least) two sides to each story, ones that are opposing each other, but there is also a third side, hidden in the shadows so boundaries of the two main sides are clear. If the truth, and I'm not talking about Zagreb\Hague or Belgrade "clear" versions, was known, in this as in any other war, the sense of going to war, sense of pride and glorious victory or bitter defeat would take on a whole new meaning, one that would plunge the mind of millions into despair and be counter-evolutionary.

So, for me this is another movie that molds the truth into shape for it's purposes: to keep the national spirit high and make some money. For those who are truly interested in the truth no Croatian, Serbian or Bosnian movie meant to arouse national spirit and plunge the mind of youth to those desperate times will ever be anything than a tool. Tool designed to maintain aggressive nature of man bound with national sentiment and provide new recruits for any future cause.

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If I did not saw what kind of movies you like... I would say;
"Just another mental excrament of mind fatally infected by communism spewing more commie propaganda!" But I will say,think again! But damn man,think a bit more,don't let others influence your mind so much!
SOME wars are just plain fight of GOOD vs. EVIL! I mean they are rare but they do exist. Period!

But,to all those hippies,commies,numbnuts and alike who think that all wars are the *beep* think again if you have organ that can do that after reading reason WHY this was no "just another war!"

If you think that this movie,or stopping terrorist to shell your city by artillery
is pointless,you are either brain dead and deserve to be shelled in the middle of night without someone to help you in the fancy choppers,planes or some COD-like Super Troopers that just like to kill people. Find and buy guns end every bulet with your money,made your own armored car and/or infiltrate an enemy forces outgunned and outnumberred and watch your friends DIE while still doing what you have to do,proably wounded and awaiting allmost certain death! Only then you can understan and appriciate true power and real cost of courage,defiance and ressistnce! How many of you can say I have gone trough that?! Well, I can!
I annihilated those "brave commandoes" who butchered unarmed civillians of all ages but run as rabbits when *beep* armed resistance,I even captured some of those,some just plain soldiers who were following orders,but never killed a prissoner or civillian in my life even if some of them killed MY FRIENDS,even when I risked fistfiht with my own. And I am proud of that! I also specialized as a sniper and explosive expert,and pretty much saw and remembered every scumbag I moved down with my K98 or turned into red mist with well placed deices! I am also WERY proud of that!

"Ressistance/fighting (not specified what or how) is only true meaning of life!"
A.H.

Only thing unreal in this movie is number of Serbian soldiers/aggresors killed by Croatian defenders. 130-ish! Somewhere around 70 would be more realistic,but it's not unheard of that in some units average Croatian soldier put down at least 5 enemies or more...

First of all,English is not my native language and I wont appologize nor do I care for some petty grammatical errors.

THIS WAR (which was SCLASSIC WAR FOR INENPENDENCE AND FREEDOM not some "CIVIL WAR" as God damn commies like to call it! This is easiest way to notice if someone is commie or ignorant fool! WW2 in this area,in other hand,had ALL PROPERTIES of CIVIL WAR with some elements of foreign intervention.
No one who did not lived in Balkan,Ukraine and South America can understand it!

THIS WAR in 90's portrayed here was more than truly and utterly JUST WAR by standarsd of St. Augustin or any other standard in history of mankind,unlike those wars today in Middle East that gain so much media attention. To understand it's roots and reasons you need to understand some history and memtality on both (or better to say all) sides!
It was not war for oil,money some higher global geopolitical reasons etc.,nothing material (I am not saying that a lot of valtuers and other kind of war profiteers did not used war to get rich...) It was WAR FOR JUSTICE and INDENPENDENCE!

SERBS; ...wel,just say all they have is mud,pigs and Gippsies! And hate,lot of hate! This in combination with best guns ever made after Nazi Germany is never good! But they can't have good nor plenty of guns if they don't have raw materials from Bosnia,Croatia,Macedonia... Now,all their economy is based on guns making and selling and....drug smuggling!
Serbia was eternal parasite.A leach or tick that was now cut cold turkey on free money,food ad raw materials from Cro,Slo,BiH, and they wanted it back,not by work but by blood,war and terrorism,
which made situation MUCH worse after UN put trade embargo on them and gun embargo on already completely weapon-less Croatia.

BUT,I MUST SAY! NOT ALL SERBS WERE LIKE THAT!!! MANY,MANY SERBS DID NOT WANTED THIS WAR AND DID EVERYTHING TO STOP IT,BUT THEY COULD NOT DO ANYTHING THANS TO
TOTALITARIAN MILOŠEVIĆ REGIME AND MANY WHO WERE INVOLUNTARY BROUGHT ON THE FRONT RUN AWAY OR FOUGHT ON ANOTHER SIDE. TO THOSE SERBS,THANK YOU FOR THAT AND GOD BLESS YOU!

Serbs and their people (as minorities) in other neighbouring countrie coordinated bloody rebbelion and aggresion without any warning or reason beside the fact that CROATIA,SLOVENIA AND BOSNIA wanted to get the hell away from artificcial Godless abbomination called communist Yugoslavia ruled by the Serbs with Iron Fist and secret police that killed everyone who dared to oppose them,even political refugees in another conturies!

In Yugoslavia they imposed law of "helping poor and undeveloped brotherly states"
like Macedonia,Sandžak...but in reality every damn cent from Slovenia,Croatia and Bosnia went to Belgrade and Northern Serbia(they even didn't care about rest of Serbia which can be easily seen when you cross Southern Serbia and go up North,
people starth to have teath and manners and roads are paved/asphalthed and traffic signs are readeable,not places were you find nationalistic and sexist graffiti and so much bullet-holles they look transparent from 100m. There are many other differences but you need to see them for yourselve,it would sound mean,hatefull and unbelieveable if I start to enumerate them.)

Basically there was NO NATION in their neighbourhood Serbs did not attcked at least TWICE just in 20'th century! They are pretty much cauched and financed by the Israelis who are unbeliveably similar to them in all aspect:(no one likes them,genocidal escpecially toward those who helped them at first when it was the hardest,parasitic in nature,greedy beyond any reason,excellent in histoy bending,gun making,common mortal enemyes,shared delusions,economy resting on guns,drugs and pillaging....) alos pathologically HATE Croatia because of true friendship with Germany,only such in Europe,if not world,no matter what and no matter the cost,without any hidden or open interest.
There is another also very simple reason why Israel finance and "coach" Serbs,
they want to see how far you can go with such insolent deeds toward everyone in their vicinity before getting bombed by UN or wiped out by
enemies they made!
Serbs want to be the collonial Force,beside the small fact they never had acces to Sea and did not know how to sail,only thing they realy damn good at is quality gun-making,they pretty much suck in everything else... and they look on all their neighbours as collonies of less worthy people they allready attacked at least once,they were in history constantly (and still by some degree) are backed by Brits and French,but now trully coached and financed by Jews/Israelys and yes,they are as delusional bout being Gods chosen people,one of the ancient lost Israely tribes,descendents of Atlantis,first people on Earth and what not! I am not kidding,just ask one of them without any prejudice or laughter to tell you something more about their history or those subjects.
(Whih is even more funnier because ther name in Latin means "slaves")
They are also wery well educated in guilt-tripping,inflating their casualties,bending historical facts etc. Sounds familliar!?

CROATS: For Serbs this was purely economic war "justified" by some fabricated half-witt historical scare that turned in mass hysteria in 90's dating from WW1&WW2 along with greed and bloodlust that turned into preemptive aggresion which is still their reasoning,since Croatia and other countris that wanted to get the hell out of this unnatural federation which they had every lawfull and just reason. But since Croatia (and Slovenia) ARE rich countries with all kind of possibilities to live and earn a lot on many natural sources and intelectual/inovative technologies. Unfortunately,Crotian biggest enemy are...another Croats! 1/3 of them are Croatian commies,Serb-supporters and Jew-financed bought souls who will do anything to bring down allready critically low natality under excuse of human rights and modernisation.
But worst of all are war profiteers and fake patriots who bring confusion and create first 3 type of abominations when they equalize themselwes and their crime with patriotism and Country but can't wait another war to get rich on other people missery and selfless sacrifice.

SLOVENIA: Same as Croatia,but with much less hate and tensions toward Slovenes by Serbs. They needed them but could not justify them and withdrew after only few days of war! After all,Slovenia was not part of Greater Serbian teritorry,another classic lunney Serbian theory they based their justification of the war,or better to say fairy tale they believe in like Atlantians or being lost Israely tribe. ONLY this one was based on semi-truth born out of most Northern boundaries of Turkish Empire ever where Serbs and their Church freely run amock,killed and pillaged what was left after Turks.

MUSLIMS; Probably most hated,second only to Albanans. Muslims arenbiggest casualties of the war that started as intervention in Kosovo,spread as War for Croatian indenpendence and then engulfed entire ex-Yu in blaze of Serbian madness.Serbs wanted pretty much to eliminate and ethnically clense every country they attacked but non like Bosnia (Muslims)!
All that because Turks (same enemy who opressed,killed and islamized Bosnian Muslims) once *beep* up/defeated Serbs in 1389. and Croats were too late to help them then out (Serbs for some reasons also celebrate this battle as it was victorius,probably because they never trully won any war witout help of some superpower(s)!),but after some 500yrs Muslims later lived in peace and cooperated with Croats since WW1,but never more intensly in WW2!
After the Great Defeat of 1389 Serbs hapilly licked Turkish ass and cooperated with them,doing all their dirty work for some limited freedom while Croatia unconditionaly fought Turks more than 500 years of non-stop bloddy war which shaped entire nation in natural born elite warriors.
But unlike Serbs,Croatia finally made peace with Turks when they had chance to whipe them out and decided to live with Muslims without hate,even as Croatian citizens with all the civil and religious freedom,all that during "Faschist"
Indenpendent State of Croatia,phanaticall German Axis state,depsite the fact they took and conquered entired Bosnia (60% or more of then Croatian teritorry and Islamized nearly half of population in those teritories.)Serbs were furious becase of this act of mercy,and irronically, called Croats and Bosnians "Turkish servants".

ALBANIANS; They don't just hate Albanians more than anyone else,even more than Muslims,that's some entirely new kind of emotion,meta-hate if you will and they oppenly call for their extermination!
historicall reason why...hhmmm...well...there is no one...yet...but they will made somthing up...eventually! True reason is because Albanians did to them using their cock and balls what they allways tried to do to other using guns! They took decent chunk of their teritorry! Which is kinda hillarious!
But they attacked and butchered Albanian minority well before that,before and during ww1 and ww2,in 80's,in 90's in 2000's...untill NATO decided enough is enough and bombed some sense in them!


SUMMARY;
On political/visual/excuse side they pre-empetly attacked first Slovenia,then Croatia and after that ALL neighbouring countries to some extent in 90's (untill NATO finally bombed some sense in them) based on some overblown/inflated historical "facts",lies and semi-truth.
They hate everyone who was not Eastern Ortodox Christian,even some who were,for example ALL their Neighbours! ALL OF THEM!
Slovenes were Nazi puppets,Croats were Nazi brothers in arms and most loyal of ther independent Axis(well,this is tue HISTORICALL fact because Nazis defeated oppresive Serbian Kingdom in WW2,liberated Croats and gave it indenpendence,something every sane and honorable man would be more than thankfull for,no matter what anyone else thinks about someone who liberated you!),
they also claim Croats exterminated "600 million Serbs in WW2"(some say bilions!)
Truth is,more like 50-70 000,which is not cool,but did they ever asked themselves why someone who never attacked anyone or fought on foreign soil without being forced to in their entire history did that?!),
Bulgarians and Macedoians (wo are also E. Ortodox Christians) assasinated their tirranical king in cooperation with Croats in all that to get rid of their terror
in earlyest years or 20th Century (they got invaded by Serbs earlier,few years before SERBS STARTED WW1 (NOT GERMANS as you were lied in schools!) in turn of the century.

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I have read you comment and concluded that to reply, or have a conversation with you, would be counterproductive. Cheers!

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Your comments are provocative, and insightful. Like reading a condensed history of general Balkan conflicts, and the ones in the 90s in particular. I certainly agree with your judgement on communists, and their imperialistic meddling from Peking to Havana. Did you live under Tito's dictatorship? I know a little of his crushing of Croatian independence in the early 70s, and that Croatians were an unwilling doormat for Serbian supremacists.

Anyway, you've offered a lot to consider. And I agree; some wars simply can't be avoided and must be waged to win. Something America can no longer do, or is unwilling to do. Now America has become the doormat for unscrupulous globalists, and the UN's attack dog. Me and millions of my fellow citizens hope to reverse this revolting, Left wing cabal.

what ails most madmen is realitys grasp or escape, a paralysis of analysis

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Yes,my familiy greatly suffered under Tito who in fact was nothing more than a pupet of the real YU leader Zionist Moše Pijade,but thats nothing compared to others here...

USA...which I BTW like,it's idea about freedom of speech,guns and everything is today revaged by deadly cancerou disease whose name we can't even tell name without being ostrocized!
You became nothing more but a mindless pitbull on the leash of it's master Israel.
I see only 3 possible outcomes for USA in the future;
1.)Whole world allies against and attacks USA just like they attacked Germany in WW2 which could lead to MAD of the whole world.
2.)USA falls into another this time even more selfdistructive,more bloddy civil war based on racial differences thanks to leftist cabala aka. ZOG.
3.)Least likely but most prefferale outcome...people like you awake even more,USA awakes like one nation strong and undivided under one lider like Germany did in 30's
and get cuts cancerous disease from it's body and the whole world...result would be FINALLY final solution in USA and globaly!!! After that USA gets back to complete isolationism fueled by national pride since you have all the natural resources and technology(most of it's best scientific solution allready exist but ZOG and big corporation supressed it. (Remember Nikola Tesla!?)And USA becomes strong and TRULY FREE nation do all that without that mind parasites,free from forcing you to rape the rest of the world for it's petty profit,sending your youth to die for their twisted goals.
NOW that is what I pray for and that would be world worth living,world desinfected from one wery real truly evil race!
If any nation can do it without destroying itself in process you can!

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Do you know it this dvd is available in the UK?

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