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If you didn't like this movie (SPOILERS)...


Then it's whatever, not your cup of tea, it's cool. But to say that it's a bad movie because it ripped off Drive, or because it had a "jarring" tonal shift in the second half, or bad acting, come on guys. Those are the three biggest "I didn't like this movie" bandwagon stock responses I've ever seen.

I'll start by addressing the first point, which is that many people seem to believe they ripped off Drive with this movie. Well, in what way? Other than that they both have a mildly similar soundtrack, I'm really failing to see how this is the case. The movies have very different tones, different emotional cores, and completely different stories. The central figures in both stories (The Driver in Drive, and David in The Guest) are of two completely different walks of life and have entirely different personalities. Drive is set in a big, neon-lit city on any old day while The Guest is set in a small town around Halloween, decorations and all. And the stories, well, you can tell just by reading ths synopsies for both movies that they are nothing alike. Hell, I guess Ryan Gosling and Dan Stevens bear a slight (the slightest) resemblance to each other, but nothing else really. So I guess what it comes down to is that now, any time a movie has some 80s-style synth music in it, it's ripping off Drive, because you know, Nicolas Winding Refn was the first director that ever thought to do that.

On to the second issue of the "tonal shift" in the second half that apparently "jarred" so many. I mean, what about it was so out of left field for you? The action element, while increased beginning with the MP breach on the house that kicks off the second half, was already established. We saw David beat up the guys at the bar, and we saw him kill Craig and Higgins. The two scenes were pretty action-oriented, so for there to be more later on shouldn't have been that shocking. The Halloween element, and the maze particularly, was also already established, just increased in the second half. We see many shots of Halloween decorations throughout, there's a scene taking place at a Halloween party, and we see the brother character helping set the maze up a couple of times leading up to the final confrontation. So basically, the movie took two elements that were present from the beginning and developed them as the clock ran forward. Sounds like good filmmaking to me!

And third, the acting. It was fine. The actors were all believable in their roles, even Dan Stevens, who had the most difficult role to pull off. None of the acting is overly "flashy" or "scene-chewy" (even Stevens is more charismatic than flashy), but that doesn't mean it was wooden.

So again, I reiterate: I'm not criticizing anyone who disliked this movie. I loved it myself, but that's my opinion, and you have yours. But to anyone with the common complaints I've delved into above, I'm not quite understanding how those are valid reasons. If a movie was well-made and structured and everything but you still didn't care for it, it just wasn't your bag, well, just say that. Every movie has it's flaws (nothing is flawless), but there's no need to start pulling criticisms out of thin air.

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I'll bite...

"I'll start by addressing the first point, which is that many people seem to believe they ripped off Drive with this movie. Well, in what way?"


1. Dude looks very similar to Gosling.
2. Dude acts very similar to Gosling. Quiet and isolationist.
3. Dude kicks ass very similar to Gosling. Blonde pretty boy.
4. Dude acts like a modern cowboy like Gosling.
5. Dude's name begins with the letter "D" in The Guest. Gosling's character begins with letter "D".
7. Dude is a criminal/good guy/vigilante.
8. Dude protects and defends helpless domestic white folk that he is partial to.
9. Dude uses ultraviolence to appeal to audience.
10. The f'king movie covers for both films are remarkably similar (excluding fonts and colors).

"now, any time a movie has some 80s-style synth music in it, it's ripping off Drive"

This comment is incredibly disingenuous to the point of being intellectually dishonest, and I say that with humbled respect for you when considering the quality of your review.

It isn't that one element of Drive was used to help make The Guest the film that it is. The problem is that there are several of many similarities which when all combined make it more questionable regarding the originality of The Guest.

I wouldn't say it is a "rip off" of Drive, but it did steal elements that made the film appeal to audiences. Think of it like a football team stealing a playbook. They didn't steal the jersey from the other team - just the strategy. You can claim it is a coincidence, and sure - it could be, but the soundtrack mixed with the pretty blonde boy and silent warrior motif are strikingly similar to Drive. When you put the soundtrack similarities in the mix, it becomes highly questionable whether or not it is an accident at this point.

"So basically, the movie took two elements that were present from the beginning and developed them as the clock ran forward. Sounds like good filmmaking to me!"


Ok, I completely disagree with you on this to the point in which I am wondering if you were part of this film's crew. This film positively turned into a turd the more the plot developed.

Considering how damn campy the movie gets in the final portion of the film, I would say that the producers tried to diversify their target audience with a very cookie cutter approach. The film seemed to devolve as it progressed. The more the film plays, the less like Drive it becomes. By the end of the film, I truly felt like I was watching a different movie entirely. The first portion of the film seemed to appeal to a more slow moving and mature audience. The second portion seemed to be a more action driven and youthful. The third portion felt like a made for tv special from a campy horror film, especially considering Halloween being a part of the story's dynamic.

"And third, the acting. It was fine. The actors were all believable in their roles"


The acting was decent but the script did take from it. There were a few cheesy moments, but I can't call foul on the actors. I see the real problem being with direction, continuity, and script. These are all things that executive production should have ironed out, and I would assume the EP's budget simply didn't fit the bill.

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"But to anyone with the common complaints I've delved into above, I'm not quite understanding how those are valid reasons."


I find this comment to be the most hypocritical as well as bizarre of all your comments. You quite literally list the most prevalent of all complaints and acknowledge them. Then you basically state, "Since these are the most common and trending of complaints, they aren't valid. Someone needs to give me more reason as to why this movie is bad and steals from Drive."

You are one of those film buffs who are well versed in cinema, yet you have the worst taste in film imaginable. I've met many like you. You thrive on your appeal to non-conformity which drives you to enjoy films like this and support them as though you have stock invested in them - regardless if many say it is garbage, you find that silver lining and use a powerful word salad to defend your skewed view.

Let me say it bluntly - The Guest started off promising and ended like an extinction level event. The film was so horrible at the tail end, there is no possible way I will ever watch it a second time.

This film isn't just bad - it's tragic. Why? Because it fills you up and then lets you down. It is the epitome of a poorly executed production. For you to deny this would indicate (to me) that you are either in denial, or simply an autist.

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Did you get my response??

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What does their being "white folk" have to do with anything?

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"5. Dude's name begins with the letter "D" in The Guest. Gosling's character begins with letter "D". "
Seriously?
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I feel bad for you.

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I'm with the OP on this one. Just because the characters from The Guest and Drive are blonde vigilantes The Guest ripped off Drive? So by that logic Goodfellas ripped off The Godfather? Both leads have dark hair, are Italian and in the mob. So it's the same movie? I guess Drive ripped off Boondock saints? Light hired vigilantes who kicked ass in a big city? That logic just doesn't make sense to me...

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Right. He didn't even look like Gosling to me. More like a young Bradley cooper/Ryan gosling fused together...

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But, the ending is just... it's jsut SO bad... how can you defend it? I threw up in my mouth a little.

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The ending was awesome. What was so bad about it?

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