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She said in Toronto that they aimed to please the victim's family, and that they didn't want to let Knox's story be told. This is made all the more insane by the fact that the evidence points to the American being innocent.

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No it actually points to her being guilty and the evidence phase is now over anyway. Their final appeal will only be heard on points of law and their conviction will be almost certainly finalized.

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It is not like the case has been about the evidence.

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Yes it was about the evidence, the evidence was what convicted them.
www.themurderofmeredithkercher.com/The_Evidence
If it wasn't about the evidence, then what in your opinion was it about?

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that she was American, young, and a woman

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Sollecito & Guede aren't Americans or women. They were both convicted too. What you're saying doesn't hold up to objective scrutiny as it assumes that a US ally would wish to railroad an insignificant student because they dislike young American women to the point where they're willing to imprison an Italian citizen & Ivory Coast national, due to said dislike.
This case was conducted on account of the overhwelming evidence against all three, which I've linked in my last post, so I would disagree with you strongly.
Would you have any other opinions on what this case was about apart from the evidence & one of the killers being a young American female, as in an objection?

Btw & OT, is your ratings for your last films seen on the Indonesian films? It's just that I mean to check Killers out is all, I've already seen Macabre/Dara. You may wish to check out Modus Anomali (2012) & The Forbidden Door (2009) also from Indonesia, if you're partial to such things.

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The US would do that sh¡t, and so did Italy. Journos care about money above all else, and the court systems are political. The objective evidence definitely shows that she shouldn't be convicted, at the very least.

Those other people were casualties attached to her.

Would you have any other opinions on what this case was about apart from the evidence & one of the killers being a young American female, as in an objection?

That isn't what I meant. The media members used the trial to make their careers by reporting in a tabloid manner.

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I would agree to a point on journos but Italian courts aren't political. The Italian judiciary is deliberately separate from the government due to the Mussolini/blackshirt era.
Besides there's no reason for politics to come into play anyway as again Italy's a US ally.
I would also agree on certain aspects of the media- from both viewpoints though- using the case to make a name for themselves. While I agree with the verdict of the court, I actually wasn't crazy about Nadeau's book as I felt parts of it were unduly salacious regarding the victim and decidedly unnecessary, as well as in poor taste, so I would hear you on this.

Modus Anomali while seemingly standard in set up is actually cleverly misleading and worth a watch for its pay off and the Forbidden Door is nicely quirky & offbeat.
Thanks for your thoughts on Killers, I intend to check it out soon.

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Italian courts aren't political


Lol! Rabies?

The Italian courts have got this case wrong at least once, whatever way you look at it! They're awful, and morons like you support them. Lolololol!

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No they aren't political & are separate for the reason I mentioned earlier in this thread. Your ignorance is astounding and troll like posts very unsurprising.
How did they get the case wrong? Be specific with your answers please, thanks.

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I'm trying to work out if you're retarded? Or are you a crack addict?

What evidence are you speaking of? Have you actually read anything about the case? The overnight interrogation? The lack of blood/DNA? The actual killer that admitted it?

So come on, which is it? Meth addict? Cokehead? Brain damage? I'd be interested to know.


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None of the above as I'm not a drugged out loser, unlike the killers you're clearly smitten with.
There was no "overnight interrogation". Knox arrived at the station shortly before 11pm. The interpreter arrived at 12.30 am & Knox's own signed statement reads at 1.45 am, making it at the very most a 2.30 hour interrogation and a far more likely length of one hour & 15 minutes.
www.themurderofmeredithkercher.com/Amanda_Knox's_Confession
She maintains in a letter to her lawyers that some time had elapsed from when she arrived to her questioning.
www.themurderofmeredithkercher.com/Amanda_Knox's_letters_to_her_lawyer s

There were five samples of Knox's blood & dna mixed with Meredith's in three separate areas of the house and that was merely some of the mountain of evidence against her. www.themurderofmeredithkercher.com/The_Evidence
None of the killers, Guede included admitted any such thing. Guede admitted being at the scene of the crime, just as Knox did.

And yes, I've read the primary sources and relevant sentencing & motivational reports, unlike you, who is clearly getting info from murderer groupie shill sites such as IIP
When you have something of actual substance to contribute as opposed to coming out with blatant falsehoods in order to shill for a guilty as sin sex murderer, lemme know.

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So, meth then? Or were you dropped on your head when you were a baby?

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Typical Knox supporter, can't back up their whinging about their dislike of a verdict with any clarity, so resort to trolling insults instead. Says it all about the case for her innocence.

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Is it just general stupidity? Or do you have more deep psychological issues?

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Gosh, yet another trolling non answer, surprise surprise. I've yet to meet a Knox supporter that is actually able to back up their burblings with anything remotely coherent. That includes you btw.
Again, do you have anything at all of any actual susbtance or indeed coherence to contribute? It's just that so far you're simply coming across as an internet weirdo is all.

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Some form of personality disorder then?

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No it actually points to her being guilty and the evidence phase is now over anyway. Their final appeal will only be heard on points of law and their conviction will be almost certainly finalized
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How do you feel about that, now?

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Considering that the court acted illegitimately and that Sollecito's dad is under investigation for interfering with the police investigation, I stand by my comments. After reading the primary sources and sentencing reports, there is no doubt in my mind- absolutely no doubt at all whatsoever, never mind bard- that they murdered Meredith Kercher and got away with it. More than enough evidence existed to finalize the conviction. My heart goes out to the Kerchers. The Italian system failed them and should hang its head in shame.
Still, at least I no longer have to endure her creepy fans again.

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Yeah, they got off on a technicality.

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It would appear that it wasn't even a technicality. The supreme court simply blatantly acquitted them. The SC weren't even supposed to be reviewing evidence as that phase was covered at their trial and appeal.
They were only supposed to be evaluating the conviction on points of law.
The Defence & Prosecution were only supposed to have a 20 minute legal limit to speak their points. Yet the SC give the Prosecution the required legal 20 minutes but give the Defence nearly two hours to argue. Not only that but the Defence didn't even moot a new argument. They merely repeated the same arguments they'd already made, which had already been rejected by her trial, whose ruling the Supreme court had already previously accepted.
You then have a Supreme Court judge who makes the same illegal remarks that the Supreme court had annulled Hellman's appellate court for making, among other reasons.
This same Supreme Court Judge, Bruno, had previously been investigated for corruption and Mafia involvement.
The court acted illegitimately by acquitting them as only a Florence court could have done this. The SC could only send it back to a lower court for another appellate.
By annulling Massei's trial court they overruled and contradicted their Supreme Court equal counterparts, as in they did this wrt a case which had been going on for seven years and they did so in 10 hours.

Sollecito's dad is also under investigation for interference and was heard boasting on a wiretap that "Money can make water flow uphill." He's also heard threatening to run over one of the investigators in his car.

I suspect something very dodgy happened here. But the evidence was overwhelming regarding all three's participation in Meredith's murder. The Supreme court decision is an utter disgrace and they failed an innocent family of an innocent victim horribly.
RIP Meredith Kercher. The real victim here.

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yes, the entire acquittal was simply on a technicality. Every court that fully looked at all the evidence showed Knox guilty.

The Italian supreme court spent a few minutes on a specific single technicality that allowed acquittal

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It would appear that it wasn't even a technicality. The supreme court simply blatantly acquitted them. The SC weren't even supposed to be reviewing evidence as that phase was covered at their trial and appeal.
They were only supposed to be evaluating the conviction on points of law.
The Defence & Prosecution were only supposed to have a 20 minute legal limit to speak their points. Yet the SC give the Prosecution the required legal 20 minutes but give the Defence nearly two hours to argue. Not only that but the Defence didn't even moot a new argument. They merely repeated the same arguments they'd already made, which had already been rejected by her trial, whose ruling the Supreme court had already previously accepted.
You then have a Supreme Court judge who makes the same illegal remarks that the Supreme court had annulled Hellman's appellate court for making, among other reasons.
This same Supreme Court Judge, Bruno, had previously been investigated for corruption and Mafia involvement.
The court acted illegitimately by acquitting them as only a Florence court could have done this. The SC could only send it back to a lower court for another appellate.
By annulling Massei's trial court they overruled and contradicted their Supreme Court equal counterparts, as in they did this wrt a case which had been going on for seven years and they did so in 10 hours.

Sollecito's dad is also under investigation for interference and was heard boasting on a wiretap that "Money can make water flow uphill." He's also heard threatening to run over one of the investigators in his car.

I suspect something very dodgy happened here. But the evidence was overwhelming regarding all three's participation in Meredith's murder. The Supreme court decision is an utter disgrace and they failed an innocent family of an innocent victim horribly.
RIP Meredith Kercher. The real victim here.


Thank you!! Someone who is using their mind to connect with well documented evidence. Knox is a sociopath, and of course it's not for certain, but I believe her dad is as well. Although absent from most of her life, he defends her as if he could possibly know that his daughter is somehow innocent. They're an absurd family and I do hope the truth bears out one day for the Kercher's sakes. I have zero doubt of Knox's guilt. I live in Italy part time when I am not in England, and I remember thinking that she was guilty right away. An unfeeling psychopath cannot hide behind the mask for long. Cartwheels in the police station? Isn't that exactly what Jodi Arias did some few months later? Repeatedly changing stories and blaming others? Isn't that also exactly what Jodi Arias did? Yet most Americans are willing to acknowledge her rampage against a lover and ignore what "one of theirs" did against a female roommate that she loathed whilst in another country. If Knox had killed a fellow American roommate, you can believe that the American people would be damning her to hell, and giving this film high ratings. Too bad more Americans don't bother to live in other places and understand that some cultures aren't as quick to let a baby killing mother go (alla Casey Anthony) just because of politics and MONEY. You can kill anyone that you want to in America so long as you keep it high profile. That way the silver tongued talking sharks will swim around you for the cash so that you can go free.

RIP MEREDITH KERCHER.






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Since when is not telling someone's story an attack on them?

The film offers no definite opinion of the guilt or innocence of any party. In fact it isn't really even about the murder, it's about the media circus which followed it, and about a guy trying to make a film.

No-one actually knows who committed the crime, apart from the party or parties involved. But we do all know who got killed. So focussing on her and ensuring her family is not upset any more than necessary seems entirely reasonable to me.

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Since when is not telling someone's story an attack on them?

You're joking, right?

The family claiming they are so sure Knox is the killer is insane. The movie takes that point of view, and it uses the book that was more circus than any other to recreate the bullsh¦t. It is extremely immoral to use a book like this to base a movie on-that is something we know for a fact.

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You haven't seen the film, have you?

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How is it insane, considering that they had access to all the evidence including evidence not released at the time and considering they attended the trial and appeals?

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I don't believe a word you say unless you can produce a reliable source. Knox has had every opportunity to tell her story, her problem is no-one believes it. Anyway, it should really be about the poor victim who has been completely overlooked.

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