A Who-dunnit




From the film I draw the conclusion that the Wittmers had something to do with the death of the Baroness and her associate. The reason I draw that conclusion is that the Wittmers were the type of people who would show up on an island uninvited and expect to be catered to when they arrived - in spite of the fact that they were complete strangers to the couple inhabiting the island. The Wittmers assumed they would be accepted to the island and that Ritter and Strauch would not only help them out, but that Dr. Ritter would birth their baby. When Mrs. Wittmer had difficulty having the baby, Dr. Ritter did come to their home and operate on her and was very kind. So this tells me quite a bit about the character of the two couples. Ritter and Strauch had carefully planned out their trip to Galapagos, while the Wittmers made a rash decision and arrived without a penny to their names - pregnant.

Fast forward to the disappearance of the Baroness. Ms. Strauch and Mrs. Wittmer each had a different story about what happened when the Baroness went missing. But the fact that the table cloth belonging to the Baroness was covering the table at the Wittmer's house when Dr. Ritter and Ms. Strauch were called to come up the hill, within days of the disappearance, points to the Wittmers.

What do you think?

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I think the young man probably killed the woman and her main boyfriend and then Martha W. helped him hide the bodies and cover it all up. I'm not sure if her husband helped her or not, but I think she was definitely involed! It seems she had become protective of the young man and I think she might have thought the baroness and her lover deserved what they got. It's very creepy that they were so cold afterwards as to go and take what they wanted from her house. Anyway, that is just my opinion as to who was involved.

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The Wittmers took the roof of the Baroness as well but I had a different take. The Wittmers were the only normal people on the island. Mrs. Wittmer lived to be 95 years old and stayed on the island. Her conscience was clear. I think they were good hearted people because they took in Lorance when he was miserable with the Baroness and her fav man. (forget his name) but Lorance killed the Baroness and her man and Dore poisoned her husband the doctor. The Doc was nice to help birth the baby but what choice did he have. He was pissed about having to do it. He didn't want to be a doctor anymore. He was running from that world. The Baroness and her man abused Lorance too much and he was pushed mad and killed them. I don't think the Wittmers had anything to do with it other than knowing that is what happened and not seeking the authorities. Just my thoughts.

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I agree about the Wittmers being the only normal family on the island. Well, maybe not normal but prepared. Ritter thought he was prepared but if you compare shelter, farming, and livestock capabilities, the Wittmers thrived whereas the other 2 groups suffered.

And Ritter was described as a violent man. He wasn't friendly or kind.

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I tend to agree. I think, as someone said above, that Margret was a bit protective of Lorenz, since by her account he was being physically and mentally abused. It seems like he snapped and killed the Baroness & Phillipson. Then, since she felt sorry for Lorenz and/or felt the murders were justified, she had her husband help hide the bodies and they all concocted the Tahiti story. So I don't think they were involved in the deaths, but they definitely were involved in the coverup.
And then Margret took some of the Baroness's things because, hey, good riddance, she was a horrible person and her things are just sitting here unused.

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by gs-web;

"From the film I draw the conclusion that the Wittmers had something to do with the death of the Baroness and her associate."

Agreed.
The Wittmers claimed that the (fake) Baroness and her lover had gotten on a boat to Tahiti.
This was obviously a lie which Dr. Ritter knew because no such vessel had come to the island.

Lorenz was living with the Wittmers when the Baroness and her lover disappeared.
And the Wittmers immediately helped themselves to some of the Baroness' belongings.

At the end of the film it was mentioned that Mrs. Wittmer did not want to participate in the film project because as she put it;

A closed mouth admits no lies.

The Wittmers were involved.

BB ;-)

it is just in my opinion - imo - ๐ŸŒˆ

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A closed mouth admits no lies.


*admits no FLIES.

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If you believe the Ritters, a horrible scream was heard coming from the location of the other camps. There is no way that the Wittmers could not have heard it because the Wittmer and Baroness camps were adjacent. The Tahiti tale is inconsistent with too many facts to be true. Therefore, the Wittmers were involved in this crime somehow, either committing it or covering it up.

Another possibility is that the Ritters lied, and there was a conspiracy involving all the survivors on the island. But if that were true, then the Ritters would back up the Wittmer story, not cast doubt on it.

If I'm right, it makes Mrs. Wittmer's story of Mr. Ritter's death all the more suspicious. She wants to detract from her detractor.

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by hallo_world ยป Mon Apr 20 2015 12:48:10
IMDb member since October 2003

If you believe the Ritters, a horrible scream was heard coming from the location of the other camps. [/b]There is no way that the Wittmers could not have heard it[/b] because the Wittmer and Baroness camps were adjacent. The Tahiti tale is inconsistent with too many facts to be true. Therefore, the Wittmers were involved in this crime somehow, either committing it or covering it up.
For the most part, each resident's writings contradicts their neighbor's, so just because the Wittmers were close to the Baroness camps and claimed things there were contradicted by the Ritters doesn't necessarily make it so.

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Seemed to me that Lorenz wasn't thrilled with his situation, but he was able to tolerate it. But later Eloise may have strayed beyond just the two guys and then he snapped. The Wittmers probably felt sorry for him and helped cover it up, or at least did not turn him in.

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