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Spinelessly Trendy Hopsters

posted 11 years ago by dvd123
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I never really got all the hipster hate until now. Lemmings masquerading as iconoclasts. If you drink swill in an effort to be different, and everyone else ends up drinking the same swill, are you really that different?

Because of their intense flavor, hops are a far more frugal way of flavoring beer. Barley, on the other hand, is expensive. Hoppy beer is cheap beer- marketed as hip- and purchased by idiots that don't know any better and can't discern quality on their own. Marketing fodder. At least the macrobrews are open about the corners they cut- at least they're honest about their cheating ways.

Exxxxxtreeeeeme hops! The effing cool ranch doritos of beer. Kelp, scorpion chilis and an obscene amount of hops. How many different ways can YOU figure out how to ruin beer? How many ways can you be a hyperpretentious asshat?

[–] Stickman38 11 years ago

Because of their intense flavor, hops are a far more frugal way of flavoring beer.

I take it you don't like hops? lol!

I don't mind a hopped-up beer when it's a Pale Ale, Imperial Stout or Porter, I know I'm going to get some other flavors with these styles rather than just a mouthful of hops. But wow, those IPAs are just too hoppy. The only IPA I've grown to enjoy is Hop Devil by the Victory Brewing Company. It's a solid beer, even though hops is about the only thing you taste, it's a really smooth hops taste.

Barley, on the other hand, is expensive.

I suppose I'm a fan of balanced beers. I don't like a beer that just has ONE dominant flavor. Even with heavily malted beers, this can happen. Some beers, especially when it comes to Quadrupels and Scottish Ales can actually be too malty.

At least the macrobrews are open about the corners they cut- at least they're honest about their cheating ways.

Doesn't really matter what they do... the macro-beers are complete sh$t. Bud, Miller, Coors, Busch, Corona, Keystone, Tecate, Natty Ice, Fosters, Heineken... all shi$$y beers. About the only decent macros you can get are Guinness, Pabst Blue Ribbon and maybe Sam Adams but it is debatable on whether or not The Boston Beer Company is still a microbrewery.

Kelp, scorpion chilis and an obscene amount of hops. How many different ways can YOU figure out how to ruin beer?

I do agree here. It doesn't seem like scorpion peppers would be very pleasant in a beer but who knows, maybe it worked, maybe it didn't? I'd have to try the beer first before passing judgement.

As far as the hosts go.... they're alright, I just don't care for the accent. I gotta turn on my subtitles to catch everything they're saying. Overall, I think it's an interesting show but "Brew Masters" was better.

[–] scottakelly 11 years ago

I never really got all the hipster hate until now.

I agree on hating hipsters.

Because of their intense flavor, hops are a far more frugal way of flavoring beer. Barley, on the other hand, is expensive. Hoppy beer is cheap beer

This is very wrong. Pound for pound hops are much more expensive than barley.

I like all sorts of beers - hoppy, malty, balanced. But i do agree that outside of water, barley, hops, and yeast there are very few other ingredients that actually improve the flavor of beer.

[–] Stickman38 11 years ago

there are very few other ingredients that actually improve the flavor of beer.

Quite often I see people add limes to corona, orange peels to Blue Moon and salt to Tecate to make them taste better. lol.

[–] DrHerbertWest 11 years ago

Put me down as in the Anti-Hop Crowd (and I'm from San Diego, home to the most over hopped beers on Earth.)

Give me a nice orange Marzen any day of the week and twice in October.

[–] coreylahey 10 years ago

So do you like the show?

[–] chris-daguanno 10 years ago

You obviously have some vast brewing knowledge. Considering that the macros use hardly any "barley" and mostly corn and rice, which are far inferior adjuncts, I'd say that you have no idea what the hell you're talking about. I don't even need to mention the fact that hops are per capita far more expensive than "barley" or any other malted grain that is used to brew beer.

So keep drinking that un-American macro swill - InBev is a Belgian and Brazilian held company and MillerCoors is all Canada. With a little hope, your goofy suburban, SUV driving ass will choke on it.

[–] Embryoyo 10 years ago

Not to mention most macros are loaded with GMO, which they FAIL to disclose to the consumer because America is in the stone age regarding that.

Forgetting all of that, Brew Dogs is just a fun show. When they did my home town, they did a lot of things right. They failed to name my FAVORITE market for purchasing beer, but aside from that, they named some good breweries, bars & beers. They mention Saison & Sours a lot in this show, too,and that makes me smile - these are my 2 favorite styles.

[–] Stickman38 10 years ago

Embryoyo - have you tried Boulevard Saison-Brett? What an amazing beer it is! It's rotational, this year's version should be coming out pretty soon.

[–] lside75 9 years ago

As others have mentioned, you clearly no very little about beer - hops are relatively expensive, while grain is relatively inexpensive. Typically, people who say they don't like hoppy beer either just don't like beer (which is fine) or they are saying they don't like unbalanced hoppy beer (which is understandable). Almost always, when they taste a well-made, balanced IPA they usually love it. Try Blind Pig from Russian River (if you can find it).

[–] Stickman38 9 years ago

Typically, people who say they don't like hoppy beer either just don't like beer

I've known lots of people that say "I don't like hops" but at the same time they don't actually know what hops taste like. This is a big problem among macro drinkers and people that just don't know that much about beer. A lot of them don't even know what hops taste like, they just "think" it's something in beer they wouldn't like. I've known people that say the same thing about malts too. Again, they think it's something in beer that they wouldn't like.

I've heard people say "I don't like malty beers" then I'll ask them what malts taste like and they can never answer this. The impressions people have about dark beer is also a problem, For some reason a lot of people think dark beer means "hoppy" beer and therefore, they wouldn't like it. This is such a huge misconception about beer.

If you drink macro exclusivity and have never tried any of the micros, you are a person that doesn't know what hops and malts taste like, PERIOD! Which is fine if you don't but to say you don't like malts and hops yet you've never tasted either is a sad situation. Anheuser Busch is the one to blame for this misconception about beer. They're marketing campaigns have always been about teaching people that hops are "bad for beer" so drink Bud because it's not hoppy.

Shame really because hops and malts is what makes beer delicious.

when they taste a well-made, balanced IPA they usually love it

When you get those tropical notes like pineapple, orange peel, tangerine in IPAs they can be wonderful beers. But I find this taste to be more of a nuance rather than part of the tasting profile in IPA. The majority of IPAs I've had are just too bitter in my opinion. I like that heavy grapefruit bitterness you get in IPA but I could not drink that everyday, it's just too sharp and not balanced.

Lately I've been drinking Fresh Squeezed IPA and I do seem to get those tropical notes almost every time I drink it. Great beer but at this point, this is the only IPA I am willing to drink. Otherwise I am drinking saisons, stouts, porters, scotch ales, hefeweizens, tripels, amber ale, quadrupels, english barleywines, old ales, barrel aged beers and more. These styles seem way more balanced than IPA...

Plus, I get those tropical notes more often in tripels than I do in IPA. It's just a matter of time until the IPA craze fades away.

[–] katiedragonflies 9 years ago

Oh thank goodness, someone who knows beer! Bud, Coors and their ilk are water. I'm not a big beer drinker, but I am a taster. I am very familiar with the notes of a well crafted beer.

I appreciate the true complexity that goes into brewing. And I ought to know, my husband is not only a beer connoisseur but also a home brewer. Hops are bloody expensive! We purchase all of our grains, yeast and hops and go to great lengths to ensure quality.

Personally I love James & Martin & their accents are great, but I also enjoy Celts. If people don't like the show, turn the channel. But please don't talk about beer expenses unless you make your own, it makes you look ignorant of what actually goes into brewing. And frankly, is disrespectful to say otherwise.

So I hope the originator of this thread does go and enjoys his Bud at the corner market. I'll enjoy sharing craft beers with my husband, while we watch Brew Dogs. together.