Great 2/3 of a movie


Though this movie had issues for me it was still a fun movie to watch, however when the credits rolled it felt like an entire act was missing. Not a far as the story, I understand that this movie was like dazed in that aspect of where we just watch a group of friends roaming the streets for a few days before class starts. But the characters and development of them are what seemed to fall short at the end.

There were several characters where they seemed line they were building something up for them and it just went no where. For instance the country guy. They started with developing this character as sort of team outsider, an *beep* that party's only with his friends, that no one liked was gonna be like a catalyst to the others and bring down their fun. But then that just faded and went no where cause all a sudden we see him getting along with the team. Then there was the other got, I forget his name but the one that talked allot, they seemed to be building that characters up as like a van wilder eighth year senior type that's scared to graduate. But then that goes no where and we get nothing further on him. Even the guy they kicked of the team for being something similar just all a sudden disappears. And it also was kinda odd how some of the characters looked like they were in their 30s.

As far as my biggest problem with the overall movie, was how it tried to jumble in too many time piece references. We see this group of guys listen to classic rock, rap, punk, and disco. People then were usually just one. If they were a classic rock guy, they hated disco with a passion. I understand the director wanted to capture that time, but it didn't make sense and was inaccurate. I also had a minor issue with how Jake, a freshman, was best friends with all the others after a day. That would never happen, especially on a college sports team.

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Not a far as the story, I understand that this movie was like dazed in that aspect of where we just watch a group of friends roaming the streets for a few days before class starts.

Dazed and Confused isn't quite as aimless, and it's mostly a character thing, I reckon: you have Mitch grounding things up, with Pink as an extension (and possible lead) and Sabrina as a counterpoint. Freeform as the film is, it doesn't feel aimless because you can sense the build-up undernearth.

Not so with EWS, essentially because Jake becomes one of them overnight and the best he can hope for in the days that follow is to have fun. So you could say Dazed expands and actually leads somewhere special, whereas EWS is all over the place quite literally and defiantly - and that's partly why I didn't like it as much.

There were several characters where they seemed line they were building something up for them...

Kind of like Benny, Pickford, maybe Mel (if you ever expect him to be that relevant) in Dazed then, where their absence is kind of bothersome at first but then you come to accept it because the ensemble is intended as something of an organic being with some characters walking in as others fizzle out.

That said, it's not like we were denied a payoff of any sort - the star pitcher got his comeuppance very much the same way O'Bannion did, and Jake did go back for the auburn haired girl. I'm not sure anything else needed to be done with country guy or high school friend without exhausting said characters and plot lines.

As far as my biggest problem with the overall movie, was how it tried to jumble in too many time piece references. We see this group of guys listen to classic rock, rap, punk, and disco.

They're just trying to get laid, no? You can tell their resistance level to some music genres is way up until they allow themselves to revel in the fun and just go for it. It's not like they were openly embracing everything without reticence. That said, I'm not sure eclecticism is/was all that rare in the first place...

I was hoping things would work out for her. She was a good friend of mine.

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I agree that dazed did have more of a point, or direction, than this. Mostly cause they both had the exact same "plot" with a group of guys wanting to party and get laid. However that concept is more acceptable with people in high school, where there's no other responsibility in life. College is a transitional period where people figure out who they are, which I feel this movie didn't capture. Although I also feel it was accurate since these gotta were baseball players. And athletes in college all think they're gonna play professional and have no back up plan.

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We see this group of guys listen to classic rock, rap, punk, and disco. People then were usually just one. If they were a classic rock guy, they hated disco with a passion.

(Don't forget the scene in the country bar too!)

I would disagree with that. I'm slightly younger than the characters in this move, started college fall 1983. Suburban kid, NY state. Jake's record collection in the movie, the variety, was cracking me up because I had all those albums... Devo, Neil Young, Pink Floyd. The people I hung out with in high school and early on in college, yeah we listened to classic rock, which at that point was more "current rock" if you're talking Foreigner, Van Halen, ZZ Top, Dire Straits, Pink Floyd, but we also listened to some disco (at parties), punk/new wave, and early rap. The "disco sucks" crowd was earlier, like 1978ish, by 1980 nobody I was around had any fervor to hate disco music that had faded away. As for rap, we didn't really know it by that name yet (and I was a big music head as well as a jock) but I remember when I started hearing Rapper's Delight out roller skating we were all pretty jazzed by what we were hearing. And then a couple years later Grandmaster Flash, the Beastie Boys, Run DMC, we listened to all that stuff.

Punk too, I didn't know any guys into stuff like the Sex Pistols or a lot of the other seminal punk bands but we listened to The Clash and The Ramones. And early in college I was introduced to The Stooges, MC5, the NY Dolls and got into that stuff too.

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Perhaps you owe us slightly older guys a debt of gratitude. We were the "Death before disco" crowd, maybe we actually killed it. Now I'll grant you, we were too young to get in the clubs and enjoy the social activities that surrounded the music. But be real, the music sucked. You ever play a disco song now to enjoy? I knew you were gonna say that.

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