Judging from the anti-choice commenters clutching their pearls at the sentiments brought up by this film, I'd say the film was a raving success in its objectives. Namely, treating the decision to keep or terminate pregnancy as a real-life decision, outside of hyperbole and religion. Here's hoping for more movies on this subject that do no shy away from this subject.
shareI really enjoyed this movie as well. Had a breath of reality to it.
I think a majority of the "anti-choicers" haven't actually seen the movie. They are basically nothing more than blind dogs barking at the wind.
Even the usually caustic Jeffrey Wells is in love with the film, especially the lead actress:
http://www.hollywood-elsewhere.com/2014/12/last-guy-world-praise-obvio us-child-particularly-jenny-slates-performance/
I loved this movie too, and I also find it refreshing that the woman actually does the abortion. Usually in films, the woman changes her mind and decides to go through with the pregnancy, so I'm glad this film didn't go that route.
shareI agree. I said the same thing in a different thread. Usually the woman has a change of heart at the end. It was refreshing that they didn't cop-out and go the safe route with this film.
Of course, now you have people screaming that it's propaganda. Of course, if she had kept the child, no one would be screaming that it was pro-life propaganda.
Yes it was so lovely to see. And then end the movie on a happy note!
I'm pro choice and I have to say the movie made me a little less pro choice. The topic should just not be treated this superficially.
The topic should just not be treated this superficially.
I really loved the comedy bits. That's not it. But they never discuss "it" before and after. And after it's a happy end, they get together, rom com style. With a twist. She just decides she doesn't want his baby. Whatever you think about that, it's not a trivial thing but they handled it superficially. Why doesn't she want his baby? What would be the problems? Should he have any say in that? We don't see any of that. So the happy ending is a bit of a slap in the face and also strikes me as unrealistic.
I've written more of my thoughts here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2910274/board/nest/244861160
She didn't need to discuss it. She knew she was too immature to raise a child. And I wouldn't call that a happy ending. They both seemed pretty sad about the whole ordeal. She even shed a tear during the procedure.
I would say this was more of a realistic ending than a happy one. If that is happy, that is the most unhappy happy ending I've ever seen.
I would say this was more of a realistic ending than a happy one. If that is happy, that is the most unhappy happy ending I've ever seen.
Dejay:
People who have made the decision to terminate understand that ending completely. There are a million ways to conclude that story; this was just one of them.
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I don't think it's gutsy at all. Gutsy is looking at the issue at hand from all angles. This movie is just a pro-choice commercial. Discussion? There was no discussion in this movie.
And abortion as the back drop for comedy? Yeah, that's a no. Nothing about it is funny. It's not funny for the person who's life is being terminated, it's not funny for the woman going through it, and it's not funny for the guy who has to sit back and have no say in it.
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This movie is just a pro-choice commercial.
Discussion? There was no discussion in this movie.
Here's what I've noticed about propaganda: It's only propaganda when you disagree with it.
prop·a·gan·da
ˌpräpəˈɡandə/
noun
noun: propaganda; noun: Propaganda
1.
derogatory
information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.
There's several scenes where they discuss it.
Oh, I know what the word means, I was just telling you what I've noticed*. People scream "propaganda" when it goes against what they believe.
MEANING: If the message is in line with one's beliefs they don't seem to think it's propaganda. I doubt you'd be posting here if she had kept the baby.
Feel free to post more definitions of words I'm using correctly.
*(should I post the definition of the word "noticed"?)
Oh, I know what the word means, I was just telling you what I've noticed*. People scream "propaganda" when it goes against what they believe.
MEANING: If the message is in line with one's beliefs they don't seem to think it's propaganda. I doubt you'd be posting here if she had kept the baby.
You are having a lot of trouble. I tried to dumb it down for you. I'll try harder.
No one ever accuses something of being "propaganda" when they agree with the message.
If that still doesn't make sense to you, then I don't know what else to tell you. Maybe you should focus on what's being said instead of thinking about what "clever" thing you are going to say next?
That makes absolutely no sense.
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No one ever accuses something of being "propaganda" when they agree with the message.
You are either being purposely obtuse, or aren't as intelligent as you think you are. I'm sorry it made no sense to you. Perhaps I overestimated your intelligence? For that I apologize. Good luck with your pretend movie review site.
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You got that right, well said.
Dog is out of his feeble little mind.
But there's not much for him to lose....think he doesn't much register on IQ tests. So he FLIPS off the world! How comforting if ONLY this were a total petulant & mentally challenged child, but you & I both better know that it's likely this is a sad, troubled, disturbed ADULT loser taking to internet, attempting to find some place in the world. And in a sense, he HAS--- proven to fit in perfect harmony with the LOSER-crowd.
But heck, for time being, he sure is fun to laugh at (all without guilt, only pleasure)...which has to be his entire life experience.
Yes, how true.
Additionally, appreciate the link you forwarded. Just read 6 reviews! Some movies already seen, others I still am considering viewing.
So a nice chance to gain insight into both your tastes (the Siskel & Ebert of the sexes)!
Each so nicely thought out & written!
I must say, how refreshing!
Again, I also love the format of two perspectives.
Fact is, we women & men DO tend to see things differently on occasion so I, for one, salute any forum providing further context & perspective!
This particular case, how fitting, in regard to movies! Just an avalanche of material playing & slim margin worth heading to theater to see (but alas...I do. Maybe the eternal optimist. And true, I've seen some wonderful films but that's on the rare side.).
I attend a weekly movie discussion class at my library & will be sure to pass on & share your website. All the variable review resources available come in quite handy; you gather a different flavor from each & many times, read things you might've missed watching first time out. Or at minimum, just new ways to look at something, which can only be good to do.
Again so thank you. Very grateful you shared it with the movie-going world.
Keep on reviewing!!
Yes, how true.
I used to be a Democrat (a while ago at this point), but I was always a more conservative one. A lot people I grew up with were like. Democrat, but many Republican tendencies.
As I got older, I became an Independent. I disagree with both sides enough, and agree with both on certain individual issues, that I did not want to be a member of either one.
Additionally, appreciate the link you forwarded. Just read 6 reviews! Some movies already seen, others I still am considering viewing.
So a nice chance to gain insight into both your tastes (the Siskel & Ebert of the sexes)!
Each so nicely thought out & written!
I must say, how refreshing!
Again, I also love the format of two perspectives.
Fact is, we women & men DO tend to see things differently on occasion so I, for one, salute any forum providing further context & perspective!
This particular case, how fitting, in regard to movies! Just an avalanche of material playing & slim margin worth heading to theater to see (but alas...I do. Maybe the eternal optimist. And true, I've seen some wonderful films but that's on the rare side.).
I attend a weekly movie discussion class at my library & will be sure to pass on & share your website. All the variable review resources available come in quite handy; you gather a different flavor from each & many times, read things you might've missed watching first time out. Or at minimum, just new ways to look at something, which can only be good to do.
Again so thank you. Very grateful you shared it with the movie-going world.
Keep on reviewing!!
Discussion? There was no discussion in this movie.
Agreed!
It seems like people only ever use the word "propaganda" when they are disagreeing with something. I've never heard anyone in my life say "I agree with that propaganda!".
Like you said, this is just the other side of a complicated issue.
This movie just depicts the other option a lot of girls choose in an honest light. I don't see why that's so hard to understand or why it should be considered propaganda, but then again I don't have an agenda as some seem to here. You don't have to agree with her choice, or like the way she handles it, but to say it's propaganda is pushing it a bit.
prop·a·gan·da
ˌpräpəˈɡandə/
noun
noun: propaganda; noun: Propaganda
1.
derogatory
information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.
"he was charged with distributing enemy propaganda"
This movie wanted to say, "This is what I believe" and revel in just that. There was no looking at multiple angles or other points of view. It was there to declare it's beliefs to the world. Pushing it? No, the definition of the word describes this movie to a T.
But I think that's what bugs certain people the most: her lack of conflict. She didn't want to have the baby. End of story.
Isn't that a part of the 'message' of the movie itself? Just because the character shows no much regret about these topics, must the viewer have the same feeling, the same reaction?
You can watch any movie, and come to completely different conclusions. It refreshing to see another possible reaction to this life changing decision, and some people can understand, and some others are seriously puzzled about it.
No situation is the same. Not everybody over analyses everything. Other have hard life changing breakups with drama, drugs and crying - others just take some days of at the beach.
Isn't that a part of the 'message' of the movie itself? Just because the character shows no much regret about these topics, must the viewer have the same feeling, the same reaction?
I don't know why you keep posting the definition of propaganda. Here's the definition of propaganda film:
First off, the other viewpoint has been done to death (see the few examples listed above).
I really just took it as a slice of life movie, not one trying to say anything about abortion. From that perspective I enjoyed it. I thought Jenny Slate gave a good performance.
I appreciated the honest outcome (I was really afraid they she was going to call it off in the clinic, which would have just been a stupid Juno-esq cliche). The very end was a little corny, but I don't know what a better way would have been really.
I agree. Also, the ending made sense with the rest of the movie. It's never a joyous occasion per se, but her fears, confusion, discomfort, and all the other emotions involved seem to align with the storyline of a struggling comedian who was not equipped for a life-altering change like that. I also think the way the guy reacted (who played her date) makes sense too showing that not all men would run for the hills. Instead, they both handled it maturely in the end and revealed touching and funny moments in what is regarded as a sad and difficult decision.
shareGregoire-2:
It's about time we stopped centering the anti-choicer's emotions and stopped over-considering their position(s) (as we've been doing) when discussing women's health services, which include abortion. No more apologies; I'm over it. It's time to listen to the pro-choice narrative and to everyday women who want to speak about their decision to terminate.
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I was surprised that she went through with it, and the guy didn't try to talk her out of it. Unusual for a movie. Having been in that situation myself (unlike most of the people on here with their sphincters in a bunch), I was impressed with that decision on the part of the film's makers. If you haven't been there, you really have nothing valid to say.
shareIsnt it great, all these stars selflessly giving of themsleves.
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