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Spare me the pain, is it worse than part 2?

posted 8 years ago by leftmefordead
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Part 2 story wise was a major disappointment and felt like a joke, trying to cash in on the popularity the first one had with western audiences...

Now seeing mike tyson cast in this one, they are trying the same pandering to western audiences again.

Is the story just as bad?

Forget about the martial arts which I'm sure are impeccable, - if there isn't enough substance in-between its not worth watching.. Might aswel look up clips of the fights instead of subjecting myself to the whole film.

So i guess this post is for people who agree part two was a definitive let down and can shine some light on part 3 if they've seen it?

[–] johnremington90 8 years ago

Don't be such a precious princess and watch the whole movie

You seriously going to say you are going to watch crappy quality clips of the fight rather than the full movie in Bluray quality with proper 7.1 surround sound ? (the audio mix is actually really good)

There really aren't that many long periods between fights anyway

[–] leftmefordead 8 years ago

Haha did you even read my post correctly.. Where did i say I'm going to watch low quality clips of the flights... Some of us are capable of finding clips of films in 1080p and not have to watch entire films that may very well be *beep*
And some of us like martial arts/kung fu in films and so unless the rest of the film is good, those are the only parts with absolute certainty that will be good.

[–] frankzappayay 8 years ago

Yes it is worse. This is a really boring and bad movie, very amateurish. The first Ip Man was great, I would give it about 8/10. The second one was a bit crap, I would give it a 6/10, and this movie I gave 4/10. Maybe 3/10. Not only is the screenplay really bad, but the fighting is bad too. It is has turned into Crouching Tiger *beep* not real martial arts.

[–] MindDepth01 8 years ago

Not only is the screenplay really bad, but the fighting is bad too. It is has turned into Crouching Tiger *beep* not real martial arts.

Guess you must've had moments of sporadic wirework stuck in mind too much to the point that you forgot the actual grounded stuff that happens in the fight scenes. Watch them again. There's no flying around like in CTHD at all.

[–] frankzappayay 8 years ago

Yes there is. Half the fighting is idiotic and completely unrealistic.

[–] MindDepth01 8 years ago

People "walking" on trees while fighting each other or people jumping several feet up in the air at will? You're either generalizing lazily or have bad memory. And unrealistic fight scenes goes for 99% of action movies regardless of special effects or plausibility.

[–] frankzappayay 8 years ago

Wrong, some martial arts movies are very realistic. And this isn't just unrealistic fighting, it is unrealistic physics.

[–] MindDepth01 8 years ago

Let me guess... Ong Bak, the Raid movies, and those latter Undisputed movies? There's a fine line of describing fight scenes as plausible and realistic and neither of those are realistic at all. Plausible in context to filmmaking --- meaning that they can be done as mere performance --- nothing more. Real fights don't last long and people don't be exchanging punches, kicks and just block them precisely the same way as in movies.

[–] stmalaysia 8 years ago

Wow, you are fighting very hard to defend this movie. Hope you are not Donkey Yen himself.
Let's face it, everyone who seem it said this is the worst of the 3.
Otherwise why do they need to create the box office fraud in China to boost sale ?

[–] MindDepth01 8 years ago

Wow, you are fighting very hard to defend this movie. Hope you are not Donkey Yen himself. Let's face it, everyone who seem it said this is the worst of the 3. Otherwise why do they need to create the box office fraud in China to boost sale?

Due to your hasty posting habits I need to remind you that I've only been active in two threads as of late. So how can I try hard to defend this movie when you're the one plaguing several threads in not only this board but also in Donnie Yen's own IMDB board and keep trash-talking (you really must not have a life )? If you're going to continue the argument we had at least post in the right thread. This is a different subject where I'm pointing out that onscreen fighting doesn't relate to anything in real fights. That goes for this and the previous movies in the franchise as well. You wanna get into this thread then stay on topic, get it?

[–] stmalaysia 8 years ago

I enjoy sharing my comments and opinions with others. Knowledge shared Will never be lost. At least I am honest, unlike you, in all your defence for the flaws of this movie. You only active in 2 threads ? What a liar. Active only in this movie's thread, maybe.

[–] MindDepth01 8 years ago

I said I was active in two threads AS OF LATE, you idiot. Do you even know the difference between a thread and a board? More evidence that you need to improve your English. The only thing you have provided with your opinions is dedicated hatred for Donnie and his Yip Man movies with the inability to share sources to back your statements up. So the only honest thing here is that you lack knowledge and resort to cheap claims.

[–] frankzappayay 8 years ago

No, Bruce Lee movies and ones like that. Anything that doesn't have levitating around the room like a fairy. It is sad that your generation can't even see the difference.

[–] MindDepth01 8 years ago

It is sad that your generation can't even see the difference.

Funny cause you're only describing yourself. Just another one out of many delusional viewers who believes everything can be done in any situation in reality because it was done for real in front of the camera. Doing something real for a fight scene doesn't equal a real fighting situation. Real fights are sloppy, spontaneous, and end in a matter of seconds. Fight scenes are planned, rehearsed, and are executed in attractive ways. Fight scenes (and movies for that matter) are all about visual appeal. Learn something about filmmaking before coming up with nonsense reponses.

[–] frankzappayay 8 years ago

I don't think you even understand what I'm saying. I'm talking about flying around a room and landing on a shelf on 1 foot. Whether what Bruce Lee did could be done exactly the same in real fight is debatable. Whether someone can fly and float is not. You need to strawman harder son.

[–] MindDepth01 8 years ago

Don't try to divert the situation by changing the subject. My responses were simply about correcting you on the fight scenes in this movie not having too much wirework, AND fight scenes not being realistic in general --- regardless of wirework or real physical skills --- which I ALREADY covered earlier. Are you so insecure in your words that you need to repeat yourself to keep the discussion going? Pathetic.

Bruce Lee movies are realistic? LOL! He incorporated real fighting techniques but even he knew making fight scenes too real would be boring. That's why he exaggerated his fight scenes to look good. His group fight scenes are prime examples. The focus is only on him and not on him and his onscreen opponents (something that was showcased later on in Jackie Chan and Sammo Hung movies), they were just there to "take hits" and leave room for Bruce's punches and kicks to look good. Like I said, fight scenes are all about visual attraction.

[–] frankzappayay 8 years ago

But at least he didn't fly around the room like a fairy. Face it, this movie was *beep* especially the fighting.

[–] MindDepth01 8 years ago

Bruce does a wire-assisted fly-kick to the Japanese villain in the final fight of Fist of Fury, and the resulting back-leap upon impact (Jackie doubled the Japanese actor) was wire-assisted as well.

I'll say this again: There are no fight scenes in this movie showing people flying around LIKE in Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, which you said and implied clearly. And your statement about the movie being *beep* doesn't mean anything because it's got a good rating and many people are praising it for its' story and action. So I don't need to face anything other than the fact that your memory doesn't serve you right 

[–] TiyashRF 8 years ago

It's disappointment, that's for sure. The second one, although not as good as the first one had its moments and made some genuine emotional impact. This is just hollow. Everything feel like an excuse just to leap into the next action scene and there are just so many of them that they start to feel generic and dare I say - boring.Oh and don't even try to make sense out of the story and character actions.

If you into comic book movies - this movie was the equivalent of Age of Ultron.

[–] stmalaysia 8 years ago

It's expected in most sequels as the best ideas are usually used in the earlier movies. Unless they are willing to spend more money to make a better production. If you been following the news of these whole Ip Man series and words said by Raymond Wong and Donkey Yen in all their publicity, you will know. When they make the first one, they even tried to use the title of Wong Kar Wai's title The Grandmaster. Although they lost the rights, they still use it as part of the Part 2 title. The Grandmaster was a bigger success in both box office and critics than Ip Man 1 & 2 worldwide. See this part 3 trailer, first words are The Grandmaster Returns.

[–] leftmefordead 8 years ago

You had me squirming at the comparison to age of ultron...
I was severely disappointed by that film, and i am a massive comic book fan pre marvel movies.. so i do nit pick.. But i think ill just steal clear of Ip man 3, and perhaps rewatch the first one or enter the dragon for my next kung fu fix

[–] stmalaysia 8 years ago

Watch Wong Kar Wai's The Grandmaster. It's the last kung full classic if Enter the Dragon was the first.

[–] TiyashRF 8 years ago

Is it that good? I have been pretty mixed on Wong Kar Wai's movies in the past. I didn't get either 2046 or Chungking Express. But, I happened to love "In the Mood for Love" and I still don't know why I liked that movie that much. Maybe you have to be in a particular mood to like his movies. Is the Grandmaster similar to those films in style or is it more conventional?

[–] leftmefordead 8 years ago

Yeah i really have been meaning to get around to watching that film, honestly have no good excuse for why i haven't yet.
Its easter sunday tomorrow here in aus, so no better time to watch a fckin great kung fu movie, i say. :D

[–] JurijFedorov 8 years ago

Well, there are several fights where Ip Man or some other good fighter takes on 40 guys with various weapons. At this point it's just stupid. I think I liked this one better than the second one, but mostly because this time around I didn't expect a good movie. Both a mediocre movies with not much to them. You can watch them while doing something else at the same time, because they are nearly not worth your time.

[–] maximusveritas 8 years ago

Part 2 was so bad it made me question whether Part 1 was really that good. Compared to that, this isn't as awful, but still not close to as good as the first one. It's too disjointed and Mike Tyson was totally out of place with inconsistent and poor dubbing.