Yip man Vs Mike Tyson.Does this based on a true event?
I thought Yip man movies are biographical,so when this "meeting" happened?or it's just a fictional story?
shareIp man fighting That boxer in ip man 2 never happened either.
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The Ip Man movies were never meant to be 100% accurate. They fall into the usual fare of semi-biopics produced in Hong Kong. The Once Upon a Time in China movies, the Fong Sai Yuk movies, The Tai Chi Master, Fearless, the Drunken Master movies etc. They are all based on real historical kung fu masters but are otherwise fictional tales, with the purpose to entertain.
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Thanks Dook.
shareThat is correct.
shareThis series of Ip Man movies is more fictional than factual. They are definitely not documentary. The marriage, his no job life, taking Bruce when he's like 45 years old (20 years too early in fact lol), the economic hardship (portrayed in part 2 however), and so on. Just know that and enjoy the movie for the fight scenes.
shareThe only three things that aren't fiction in the entire movie franchise is the words Yip Man, Wing Chun and Bruce Lee's Teacher. The rest is all fantasy fiction and never happen. If only Wing Chun worked in the real world.
shareThis is just part of the world media's tendency to create a false image of Black men. There were almost NO black men in China at this time in history and CERTAINLY no "thugs" as this ridiculous movie would have you believe. This type of stereo-typecasting is what makes everybody afraid of Black males. We're almost ALWAYS cast as some criminal and/or victim that you're not supposed to care about. When we are ritualistically killed over and over in the media, it subconsciously creates a lack of empathy for our lives. So when we are murdered in the street by those sworn to protect us, nobody really cares. This is some evil, Satanic behavior that I would expect from whites, but to see Asians now emulating this Art of War tactic is really sad.
share"So when we are murdered in the street by those sworn to protect us, nobody really cares."
The number of black people killed by police each year is tiny compared to the number killed by other black people.
Also the police kill more whites each year than blacks. Blacks are a smaller part of the population than whites and I know they do make up a higher percentage of those killed by police than their percentage of the population but then they are also in more crime ridden violent neighborhoods with more clashes with the police.
Blacks make up 15# of the population but commit 50% of the murders each year. While most of their victims are other black people they do kill people outside of their race more than any other race does.
More *beep* figures and pseudo statistics from the crakkka committee. And even if that WAS true, it would make sense that a people who had violence perpetrated against them EVERYDAY for MANY GENERATIONS, would now be pretty violent. Especially after having SYSTEMATICALLY been marginalized in EVERY regard by a white supremacist system. All of this won't matter though now that the POC are taking back what whites have stolen for thousands of years. Can you feel the tension building. Can you feel change a comin'? Of course you can, and you're scared that you're gonna lose all that you've acquired through theft, murder, and subterfuge. Karma is a non-negotiable law. It's the law of cause and effect. Get ready to start givin' up that white privilege!! LOL!!
shareKarma. Is that the new acceptable word for revenge? Revenge on people who have done nothing to you but are just living there daily lives like you? But that's okay we'll just call it "loss of privilige". Lots of fancy terms for attacking people who are just living.
What is it they say about revenge? First dig two graves. And what you will be doing isn't even revenge, just attacking people who have done nothing to you. And if you carry on you'll get the war you want and maybe you won't do as well in it as you think.
Karma has NOTHING to do with revenge. Your deeds, whether negative or positive, are reflected back to you. THAT is what Karma is. If you do some dirt, then some dirt is coming back to you. If you do some loving act, then a loving act is coming back to you. Cause and effect. Get it now? I swear some people think that they are so smart, when in reality they're dumb as rocks!! LOL!!
shareThen if karma is to do with your own deeds what is coming back at white people today for what THEY have done? Not whites in the past, THEM. And if they have done nothing what is the karma they have to face?
Otherwise it is just revenge for what some of their forefathers did.
Karma exists for groups as well as individuals because they BOTH exist on this plane. There's a karma for the group known as men. That means ALL men WILL pay for any karma that their group COLLECTIVELY incurs. There's a karma for the group known as Christians. That means ALL Christians WILL pay for any karma that their group COLLECTIVELY incurs. Karma, also known as the Law of Cause and Effect, is set up to teach us to be careful of what groups we choose to be in and to make a conscious stand for righteousness in the groups that we have no choice to be in. I personally believe that the group called Caucasians has incurred such a level of negative karma, as to ultimately extinct itself in the process of extincting other groups. Religious text also supports my belief(not that I'd need it to) and I can easily see white scientists who create viruses, to mess around and create something that only or mostly kills white people on ACCIDENT or with the purpose of killing OTHER whites. That's just one of many scenarios that POC that are scholars have been discussing lately. Right now, the white race COLLECTIVELY is in the process of killing the Arabs and stealing their land and resources. Guess who is next? Whoever the white man is telling you is the enemy(in his Satanic media), is next. I know that most whites don't believe in a Supreme Being or karma because they believe that THEY are God and control the universe. We shall see.
shareWoah you're a total racist, dude. You're generalizing and demonizing an entire race and adding fuel to the fire. Better to try to bridge gaps between people through more constructive discussion.
share"When you do dirt, you get dirt. B!tch I'll make your sh!t hurt. Step back like I did worse."
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Millennial = Homo Sapiens born 1990 or after; Losers who think they know everything but don't
That tension my friend is people's bank accounts being dried out by a slave system. Blacks are not the only victims. The entire working class is, but our rich politicians and quack-politicians are taking advantage of the economic situation to further their careers and pockets. The sad is I can understand both sides (all sides) - people are fed up and are blaming each other, but aren't blaming the real culprits (the lawmakers, politicians, the broken systems, etc.) Those inciting tensions do not give one crap about what they're doing. They want to be remembered, known, heard of, books and movies made about them - when you're a billionaire money alone is not enough anymore especially when you're a known sociopath and narcissist.
You are definitely misunderstanding this movie though...
can't outrun your own shadow
Almost ALL of the people in power(the politicians you speak of) and the 1% everybody keeps talking about are WHITE. There's a logical reason for that. White people are savage at the core. Their savagery enables them to steal, murder, and lie in order to dominate the planet. It's called white supremacy in case you're unfamiliar with the concept. The updated definition for racism is: racism is the SYSTEM wherein one race prevents one or more other races from having EQUAL access to wealth and power. The white race is the ONLY race doing this.
This movie's underlying themes are what I'M talking about, fool. Not the plot. My original comment stands unchallenged by any logic.
There is no "updated definition" for racism. The definition of racism is "having negative feelings about a person based on their race". That's it. It's also what you are very obviously guilty of when you say "white people are savage at the core". You can't redefine racism just so that you aren't guilty of it. Language doesn't work that way.
Another reason is that "racism" doesn't need a redefinition. If you want a term to describe the "new" definition you're advocating for ("the SYSTEM wherein one race prevents one or more other races from having EQUAL access to wealth and power"), well, we already have a term for that: systemic racism. But pretending that it's a bad thing to think negatively based on their race/skin color, EXCEPT if they're white, is by definition illogical. So maybe don't use the word "logic", as it's quite evident you have no idea what it means. Either the act of thinking individuals are worse than others based on their race is wrong, or it isn't. If it is, then you are guilty of racism.
We can acknowledge that white people have historically held power over other races, and continue to do so, without making a racist generalization that "white people are savage at the core." You're falling victim to the same tribalistic mindset that causes these injustices and inequalities in the first place. If you believe all people are equal irrespective of race, then act like it. If you don't, then you're wrong.
I think you are misusing this movie to ventilate your own political standpoint, seeing as how nothing you have said so far had any bearing on the movie itself.
In any case, standing in the world like you seem to do, you are your own racist. Deal with it.
*beep* little *beep* thug reared its ugly head. Uttering the habitual stupid *beep* straw man argument about white oppression to cover the inability of his kind to normally and civilly function in a group. No wonder those of you who are smarter run away from your vermin infested hoods and join the civilisation, and those who stay are too cowardly to say anything against your hood thugs. So tell me thug, who stole anything from you personally. Who 's in the way of your stupid *beep* ass to become a decent human being responsible for your own life and actions?
shareSorry, I'm not a thug. I exist outside of any labels that you can even spell, troglodyte. I'm a Grammy award winning producer that doesn't have ANY problems functioning in ANY society, and I've lived in America, The Netherlands, and Australia. I can even be in a racist, white supremacist society like America and beat crakkkas like you at their own game. You just stole 2 minutes of my life with your Trump-esque rant. Stop living in denial, dude. You are of a people that has no soul and your deeds are slowly catching up to you, karma-wise. The POC on the planet are slowly starting to awaken. People like Trump and YOU help speed up the process. Tick, tock, tick, tock.......
shareOh I'm laughing my ass off. What Grammy did you win? A Queer narcissist choir conductor perhaps? You are nothing but a piece of self-important black racist garbage who have nothing else to do but infest all the forums and spew your venom whining and moaning about how persecuted your sorry ass is, and how some kind of fantasy force you sick brain dredged up is rising and going to take revenge on the white people for you. Your victim psyche is so out on the surface, it's pathetic. Go hide in your safe space, cockroach.
shareI simply played the bass line on "Gangter's Paradise". All of us involved got a Grammy plaque.
I don't have to say a word about being oppressed in America as a Black man. Even people from other nations know how vile whites in America are. The fact that a sexist, racist, xenophobe, narcissist like Trump got elected proves this fact. Go regroup with some facts DISPROVING the racist environment of America and then I'll debate with you. Until then, you're just an obvious representation of what I've been talking about. LOL!!
In this case, it's not so much about "black men" in particular as it is a general negative stereotype of foreigners in general. And by foreigners, I mean non-Chinese, as this movie is primarily aimed at a Chinese audience. The corrupt police chief who is cahoots with Mike Tyson is a laughable British caricature, even saying such stereotypically British phrases as "Cheerio!". Similarly, the villain in the 2nd Ip Man movie was another stereotypical British man who made outlandish, racist comments about Chinese people. It really has nothing to do with skin color specifically; rather, it plays into the history of imperialist Western nations occupying and controlling East Asia. The theme of Chinese martial artists having to fight foreigners to maintain their honor, dignity and heritage is a common theme in kung fu movies, especially those made in Hong Kong, where British occupation didn't end until 1997. Yes, the stereotypes are often over-the-top and silly, but there's no reason, in this case, to read anything into them specifically casting a black man as one of the bad guys. I think the opportunity to have a scene where Donnie Yen fights a world-famous boxer is the only real reason Mike Tyson was cast.
shareThe corrupt police chief is the STANDARD personality of white people everywhere in the world. No respect for other people is their MO. Some idiot crackkka just got sentenced 15 years for thinking he could disrespect North Koreans and just simply use his white privilege to fix his predicament. He was sadly mistaken as THOSE Asians aren't in the business of worshipping the white man. Whites WERE in China ATTEMPTING to control it and treating Asians like s h i t was very commonplace as it STILL is. Chinese and Japanese just like to worship whites even though it never benefits them.
shareYeah, nevermind, you're the racist piece of $hit who wrote that other thread ranting about how Asians are weak for "allowing" themselves to fall victim to European imperialization. Rarely have I come across a more backwards, confused philosophy. I hope you realize that if imperialization were merely a matter of one group of people being less willing to stand up for themselves than another, then that really wouldn't speak well to the many, many African nations that lost thousands of their citizens to the slave trade. After all, by your logic, what kind of weak nation allows its people to be enslaved?
When I first read that thread, I was sure it must have been written by some white supremacist, and I thought, "This person is deeply confused, and should really read Jared Diamond's book Guns, Germs and Steel, if they think imperialism is the result of different ethnicities having varying degrees of intrinsic worth." The book does a great job explaining why environmental and climatic factors have determined which nations advanced technologically prior to others, and thus determined who colonized whom. What shocks me isn't that there are racist turds arguing that some ethnicities are intrinsically worse than others and we can determine this by seeing which have fallen victim to imperialism, but that a black person would make that argument without realizing how utterly self-defeating and self-loathing it is.
Luckily for you, you're wrong. Black people aren't weaker than whites; they didn't "allow" themselves to be enslaved, just as Asians didn't "allow" their countries to be taken over. That's not how it works. Whoever has been teaching you otherwise is racist and hateful. Hatred doesn't work; revenge doesn't work. Racism not only doesn't work, it is factually incorrect. These lessons are borne out by history. Learn them.
No, YOU'RE the racist piece of s h i t that can't ever FACTUALLY counter my statements. Africans had a lack of numbers, weaponry, and knowledge about whites which is why THEY were colonized. And yes, MANY of them today are STILL stuck on stupid concerning allowing whites into their nations. But again, they have a lack of info(intelligence agencies) and weaponry and are afraid to piss off you murdering, genocidal maniacs.
Nevertheless, the POC are being FORCED to see the reality of things and white supremacy the world over will soon be a thing of the past. The word is getting out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZOywH33IGI
You are one angry mfcker. What the hell happened to you and/or your family. You twist and turn everything to fuel your own hate. You like to sound non-racist but come out so very much the racist.
shareIf Tyson thought this character is not cool, he can refuse it.But he did not.
shareTyson, like many POC, has been indoctrinated by the white supremacist system. POC like Mr. Tyson believe that "if you can't beat them, you might as well join them". These people realize that the scraps from the "massa's" table will be significantly SMALLER if they speak out or act out against white supremacy, so they "go along to get along". He ALSO still operates out of "slave mentality". The African slave was psychologically manipulated to believe that he was inferior and actually NEEDED whites to survive. EVERY dollar that this type of POC makes comes from whites. They are psychologically UNABLE to do for themselves. I, on the other hand, have my OWN business and couldn't care any less than I already do about crakkka support. I only want what's OWED to me by crakkkas for the treachery they caused and continue to cause my people and believe me, I GET it.
You, however, are simply an idiot who doesn't understand history, psychology, sociology, or anything else of value. Stay away from public forums where some semblance of rational thought is required. LOL!!
um,before you started this blahblahbla……have you ever think of that the whole moive was almost made,invested and watched by chinese?
or your next step is to prove that all the movies in this world are controled in whites' hands?
so what you're saying is Mike Tyson represents all of black people.
how about if they cast Mike Tyson because he's a famous boxer who will draw more people, and he happens to be black?
and would someone biased like you say the same if they hired someone like Hugh Jackman instead? would you say all Australians are cast as evil people?
your agenda is too obvious.
--anti-dubber.
Ip Man never fought the Japanese occupiers either...
shareYip Man even didn't take his wife with him to HK.He just left his wife in China and She died alone.
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