the elevator mishap


All modern elevators (actually I think since the early 20th century if I am not mistaken) are equipped with a safety system that locks it in place in case cables break. What happened in this movie was, although not impossible, very close to impossible.

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Do you even internet, bro? Do you know how many gruesome elevator accidents happen in the third world? The answer is many, many more than there should be- they are far from impossible.

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what are you smoking, bro? last I checked the US is not third world....

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I'm smoking whatever it is that let's me pay attention to the fact that they weren't in America when she got killed in the elevator.

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They were in an apartment building in New York; Brooklyn, I believe.

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No, they were in some country like Thailand, or India.

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Ian hurt his eye in his lab, and the next scene was him wearing the same blue shirt underneath a jacket with Sofi.

And they were in Thailand or India? 0_o LOL

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Jesus you aren't just clearly retarded, you're arrogant too.

The scene was right after they left Ian's lab.

How do you feel now? Are you like so embarrassed you can't even admit you were wrong AND you were being arrogant about it?

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Uh oh looks like you made a woopsy.😊

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For the life of me, I can't tell exactly happened with the elevator mishap. All I know is she was pulled up and then bang! - she bled to death? What did I missed?!

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elevator fell essentially cutting her in 2.

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*beep* - and not a pip from her?!

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Maybe she was in shock?? The pain was so unbearable it seemed as if she died almost instantly. Such a horrifying way to go, but it seems as if she foreshadowed her early death when she told Micheal Pitt that she wanted to be cremated.

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That scene was very confusing for me. It looked like an older elevator but even so if the cables broke and the elevator fell would it just cut her in half like that? I imagine it might of jammed and she would of course be screaming her head off like anybody in that position. And notice how her dress was completely intact? So she was cut in half and the fabric didn't rip? I was also a little confused as to why she was hesitant to leave the shaft. I'd get the hell out of there as soon as I saw the chance!

But really great movie. I've quickly become a fan of Mike Cahill and Bret Starling. I know they went to college together and have worked on a few films together. All of them are good.

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Err you mean Brit Marling.

And agreed that this is a great movie.

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Ever since I saw this movie I've been wondering about that. Wouldn't the falling elevator just sort of pin her, crushing her lower body, but not severing it? That didn't seem realistic to me, but I don't really know enough about the mechanics of an elevator falling on a human being, heh, to make an assumption either way. I almost want an "expert" to come in and tell me which would be the likely scenario.

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Don't have to be an elevator mechanic to know it's common sense. A human body would be pinned/crushed, not torn in half, unless the elevator snapped from many stories up, and had enough time to accelerate first. Think of closing a car door on your finger. It would get crushed, not cut off.

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I don't know. Gravity + weight factor in here. I have no idea what elevators weigh, and that particular elevator did seem to be lighter than the conventional elevators we are used to riding in, but I think depending on the body that gets pinched, along with other factors such as the elevator catching onto anything as it falls, and which part of the body is actually trapped, it could end up crushed, or completely severed.

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Answer to OP: It looked like she lived in a romanticized sh*% Brooklyn apt and so it had like an older, freight-like elevator. The type typically reserved for moving furniture and maintenance purposes.

RE: cause of death: I think the viewer's supposed to deduce that she was impaled by the ledge or some other object which punctured a major artery; swift exsanguination can happen in a few minutes or less.

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Hmm, I understand catastrophic blood loss and shock but not even a squeak?! That was the reason I was quite confused. To me, that little bit was the only spoiler in an otherwise very interesting and profound movie.

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A squeak... from Sofi? I assume she went into shock or something and then bled out copious amounts of blood before feeling anything else, emotionally or physically. She only takes a few breaths, if I remember correctly.

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Shock normally occurs after the body respond to the extremis. As you said, she simply took a few breaths, when it should be an autonomous response of a scream - or any utterance of pain or surprise - before acute emotional shock kicks in. I kept thinking what the hell happened! Looked like he screamed enough for both of them after. At any rate, now I know what occurred, even if I thought it wasn't very accurately portrayed.

Btw, nice profile pic :)

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Thanks 😳

Hmm, dunno much about shock, but I think (as supported by you) that if her last few seconds were spent screaming, that wouldn't have been palatable to an audience imho

Imagine if his screams were made audible, that would've been disturbing, gut-wrenching, or awkward at the very least.

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If we assume Sofi was special (just think about their conversation in the lab, where she mentions that some humans perhaps have mutated to have a "spirit sense"), isn't it possible that she was perfectly aware of her upcoming death (and later reincarnation)? The physical pain might not have hit her before she passed out, and she was not afraid of death itself.

There are actually several moments indicating that Sofi knew her life was coming to an end:

- when they meet at the party, she says to Ian: "this bird, when she meets the love of her life, is both happy and sad. Happy because she sees that, for him, it is the beginning, and sad because she knows it is already over"

- they lie peacefully in bed, probably after having made love, when she suddenly makes him promise that she would be cremated after death. Is that really something a young woman full of life would mention out of the blue?

- in the elevator, she insists on Ian getting out first, as if she knew what was coming next. Also, right before the elevator stops, she tells Ian "Find me." It might be just a present joke, as the guy is blindfolded, but couldn't she be referring to the future?

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She was a little more than impaled...http://prntscr.com/7tvoy6

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Right? She was not impaled. She was sliced in half by the elevator when it acted like a human paper cutter.

The reason they had her die without screaming (remember, it's a movie) was because the audience, like Ian, was supposed to be relieved and thankful that he pulled her up in the nick of time, only to be shocked by the realization that she was horrifically killed. I thought it was quite an impressive turn in the story. I sure didn't see it coming.

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It happened in NYC just a few years ago. Ripped the lady right in half in front of everyone.

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Poor woman was crushed, not torn.

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Sofia was bisected. It's cleAr to see on a DVR when paused. Sofia lost both legs at the buttocks. The trauma killed her quickly.

There was nothing to crush her. Crush injuries leave tissue and bone behind. There was nothing left. This happens when elevators malfunction. When I worked for the insurance company one of our insureds had a claim in which a man stuck his head into a closing elevator.door. Guess which body part he lost? That's right, his head. That case won a Darwin Award. Don't trust elevators with your life.

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I was referring to the woman in NY.

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That elevator scene was not well filmed and came across as confusing.

It's that man again!!

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I don't understand where the confusion comes in. The human body is just a bag of wet too with porous bones inside of it. And even if she had been wearing ten dresses, the weight of that elevator falling would have easily chopped her in half, neatly severing her in half. She didn't scream because she was dead within seconds. The last few breaths she took were just involuntary functions of a body as the lights go out. As soon as that elevator stopped, I knew she was dead. The way it was done sure had shock value, tho. Seeing Ian screaming, not being able to hear it, while he slid around in copious amounts of blood, was pretty gruesome. I liked it. Lol

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I think a number of people in this thread seem to be confusing the term "shock" as in surprise with traumatic shock to the body. When someone experiences shock in the traumatic sense someone doesn't experience pain and then acknowledge it and then become "shocked." The trauma and the physiological response are immediate, the body washes itself with all kinds of chemicals to prevent itself from shutting down, and later on if the body lives through the event the pain and fear and surprise occur.

If you've seen someone experience a severe trauma, even losing a limb for example, you'd know they don't scream before entering shock. People often don't know they're hurt. It's one of the reasons I had to explain to my wife to stop moving after a rollover accident until she could be medically cleared despite her telling everyone she was fine and to look after everyone else. It's also one of the reasons I had to explain to my friend, back when we were kids, that he needed to quit shouting and flipping off the bus driver that had just hit him...because he didn't realize his arm was in several pieces.

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come on... it's just (another) scene that was just badly written. i mean i loved the film, the idea etc, but writing was worse that it should have been.
so her not making a sound when killed was just a writing plot, to give the impression that she had made it, while really she hadn't.

Gognitti bailed. I made like Chow Yun-Fat.

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I don't think it was badly written so much as understated because it would've changed the tone and focus of the movie if it had been shown more graphically. It was confusing though. Perhaps a bad decision, but a conscious one.

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I really loved this movie, but this scene is badly shot and confusing.

First, we see the elevator grind to a halt, and while they are in there it seems like a broken cable whips into the elevator and against Sofi. She cries out in pain then but seems to still be okay and alive and talking.

Then we see Ian jump up onto the hallway floor and pull Sofi up too. I don't remember the lift falling just then. I thought they just got out onto the hallway floor and nothing else happened.

Then we find Sofi bleeding to death and from the screenshot someone posted here, half of her is missing but the dress is intact.

What happened? Was it the cable that whipped into the elevator that cut her in half? But she was able to stand up and get pulled out of the door, so that doesn't make sense. Or when she was pulled, that's when her legs came off, having been whipped by the cable a moment before?

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