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"He's not Chinese..."


You gotta love how Lucy and her roommate are two white girls living in Taiwan and they still only date white guys. Lucy would rather date a manipulative, flakey criminal than an Asian guy. After that, all the Asian guys are depicted as disgusting rapists, assexual automatons, or little more than moving targets for Lucy's gun.

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How does them being white, have anything to do with who they date?

It's just preference, some date white guys, some date Asian guys, dark skinned guys, etc.

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You realize this is a film, right? Why are you defending the choices of imaginary characters as if they're real people? This post is a criticism of Hollywood for yet again creating a film where Asian men are depicted as undesirable. Lucy's roommate pointing out very starkly that her one-night-stand is "not Chinese" is very telling, too. They're in a place where 99.5% of the people are Asian and they seemingly seek out other white foreigners to date on purpose - Guys who are sleezy and unethical to boot.

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I could tell you the same thing, your criticizing the choices of fictional characters, Asian men aren't depicted as undesirable, every race has bad eggs, it's not because of their race, it's because of who they are, the 'bad' Asians in Lucy were just showing what corruption and materialism leads to, the people demonstrating this just happened to be Asian, you couldn't figure that out for yourself and had to take a jab at Hollywood for that?

Again, what's wrong with dating whoever you like? just because your in a foreign location doesn't mean you HAVE to date foreigners of that location, Lucy's room mate was just pointing out that the man she slept with was not Chinese, just to not confuse Lucy most likely since they live in Taiwan , I mean, that's what I got from it, even so, I wasn't even focusing on her little naughty story, I only cared about Lucy at that moment.

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Once again, I'm criticizing the choices of Hollywood in this film - The people who created this film, not the fictional people appearing in it. You seem to be arguing that Lucy is a real person.

Wake up. There are hardly any Hollywood films that depict Asian males with the same depth as men of other races - They can be nerds, they can be side kicks, they can be villians, they can be comedic relief, but they'll rarely ever be heartthrobs.

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You really are a delusional person.Maybe you should go check for DPD.

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Clearly, you are the delusional one not capable of any critical thinking. The op is spot on about his criticism on how they choose to represent people of color in Hollywood. Maybe you should pay closer attention to the media you consume

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Oh the irony

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Once again, I'm criticizing the choices of Hollywood in this film - The people who created this film, not the fictional people appearing in it.
It was created by a French man, not an American.

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You just said it, the guy she dated was a manipulative criminal, not much better than the koreans.

What I found strange is that her roomate seems to study in Taiwan and yet doesn't even try to learn the language. Somehow that doesn't fit.

Luc Besson happens to love Taiwan, that's why it started there. And because he didn't want to make Taiwan look bad he decided to make the villains korean, lol! My taiwanese wife was happy with this but when you think about it, most movies are like this. You always blame it on the foreigners and make them look bad. Especially Hollywood productions. Basically everyone in this movie was bad except for the scientists (american) and police (french). Luc Besson is french and this movie is an american/french coproduction, go figure. Even the german guy was depicted as a whiny guy always complaning and asking to speak with authorities until he got shot for it.

I am german btw. Over here we call this kind of things "propaganda". And the best propaganda is the one that you don't notice.

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What I found strange is that her roomate seems to study in Taiwan and yet doesn't even try to learn the language. Somehow that doesn't fit.


No, the roommate apparently wants to become an actress or something in Taiwan. It was Lucy that was studying there, and it is kind of weird how she did not know the language. Maybe she was still learning, maybe she was in an international school and the one in Taiwan was just the option she could afford... (Wait, if the villains were Korean, then it makes sense that she didn't know their language and her roommate's comment on her writing might have been exaggerated or just a reflection of Lucy's state of ability before the drugs)
But yes, that bit was strange. In any case, the roommate is not studying in Taiwan.

I am german btw. Over here we call this kind of things "propaganda". And the best propaganda is the one that you don't notice.


The English language has that word too. German too, btw. Maybe I am too far removed from the concept of being suspicious of foreigners, but I did not feel that the movie went that route.
But then again, I might just lack the ability to see it anymore. Although I wouldn't call that "propaganda", it's more of a reflection of the creator's preferences than anything.

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Another thing about languages:
When Lucy talks to the receptionist and the receptionist is talking to the gangsters (the scene in the lobby) he is talking in chinese/taiwanese. But later the gangsters talk korean and the receptionist is translating in korean.

About the propaganda thing:
I was talking less about this movie and more about Hollywood in general. They have been doing this forever. It may be subtle for you if you were raised like this, but this is the dangerous part of it. But let's not have this discussion, I don't feel like that.

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Right, but can we at least agree that it didn't completely distract viewers from the main point of the film?

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Of course. I wasn't distracted much, just a bit irritated, and forgot about it pretty fast considering what would come next^^

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When Lucy talks to the receptionist and the receptionist is talking to the gangsters (the scene in the lobby) he is talking in chinese/taiwanese. But later the gangsters talk korean and the receptionist is translating in korean.


Aaaah, that's good to know, thanks. :)

I was talking less about this movie and more about Hollywood in general. They have been doing this forever. It may be subtle for you if you were raised like this, but this is the dangerous part of it. But let's not have this discussion, I don't feel like that.


I confess, I may know too little Hollywood to see that, and I may have been raised like that.
No problem, I don't need to have this discussion. Feel free to come back to it whenever. :)

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That line the roommate said did strike me as well for being subconsciously racist. "That guy is so hot". "He's not Chinese" like she had to qualify "well of course the hot guy isn't Chinese" when they are in a country with only Chinese people. I've visited Taiwan and I think they had more White people in one room in this movie than I saw in 4 weeks there, so that was weird as well.

At least they portrayed the Koreans as being pretty efficient whereas the French police were pretty incompetent, which may be true in reality.

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Well, some people are like that. Maybe that was the character?

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It's not racist. Consider the context. "Who understands Chinese? I don't understand Chinese... this one guy, he's not Chinese." She doesn't speak Chinese, she's probably going to go for a guy she can actually communicate with.

Besides, being attracted to one race over another doesn't make one racist. That would be like saying a gay man is misogynist for not being attracted to women.

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Good point.

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Plenty of Chinese people can speak English to varying degrees, so it's still weird that she's qualifying nationality and not language.

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FYI saying you're not attracted to an entire gender is racist just as saying you're only into a specific race is, because you're defining a person by their ethnicity.

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Where are you getting all this *beep* from?LMAO

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Well, girls don't come to the US from India and date Black and Mexican guys. They look for successful Indian, or possibly White or Asian guys. Just the way it is. Some White guys move to Japan and hunt for White girls there, either from the US, Europe, Russia or Australia.

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