They only showed one short scene of him making a joke about his penis and then offering a back rub. Yes, it's creepy, but she said to stop, and he stopped. Then they made him out to be an awful person.
shareSo that kind of behavior is ok for you.
Your coworkers can talk to you like that and your husband will be ok with it. ( if you are a woman ) or to your daughter. ( if you have one ) or to your wife ( if you are a man ) .
He was an awful person to do something like that in a work place. Apparently you either do not work in an office or you work only with men. His actions defined sexual harassment.
shareI do work in an office where there's about equal number of men and women. Depending on who you talk to, people have different types of humor. The thing is, this guy was making jokes, and after she told him to stop, he stopped.
shareYeah that's exactly what sexual harassment is. Also he was obviously doing it daily as it was long term.
sharehe proceeded to make a big deal about how he and his dick were ignoring her. that is not stopping. it is indicative of someone who doesn't understand why someone wouldn't want that kind of behavior around them, or why it was inappropriate in the first place.
His offer of a back rub did seem shoehorned in, to make it abundantly clear, he was not getting the point, and that this did move far from just a random occurrence, to a prolonged, harassment.
Literally, this is a text book example of sexual harassment, seriously, I think it is in the handbook we use to teach it at my job. I am fairly certain the bosses dismissive attitude, and lighten up suggestion were actually answer B on how to handle a report (hint, answer B was wrong) of harassment in the workplace.
Let's not even get into the materials he feels are appropriate for the walls of his shared cubicle.
He was, he was very much, and awful person. 2 dimensionally, cardboard cutout style, he might as well have had a Snidely Whiplash mustache awful person.
That you all are debating this is truly the sad part, and why we need HR dept's in the first place to deal with your ignorance.
Why? I don't consider it sexual harassment, but that doesn't mean that I go around doing what he does. I prefer to just mind my own business and not talk to any of my work colleagues.
shareyou are the reason we still need feminism. you are the reason those harassment seminars exist. (Kind of wish you took one actually)
shareWow? Really? Just because I didn't feel it was sexual harassment? I deliberately said I don't act like that, so why are you being a jerk about it? You need to work on how to treat other people.
shareYou might not act like that (whose to say you are even telling the truth)
but the fact that if you saw this in real life and you would think is okay is the problem.
If you saw a guy talking about his boner to a woman that looked annoyed, you would not think anything of it. you wouldn't think there was a problem (Just like the Boss)
what if it was someone in your family, what if it was your wife? your daughter? you wouldn't care? some a hole talking about his privates non stop to someone you cared about?
Put yourself in the shoes of the husband.....
this is why we need feminism, because passive people like you
Say it's okay? When did I say that? The girl said to stop...and he stopped. He was being offensive, and she said she was offended, and she stopped. That's generally how things work. Stop being a prude. Some people joke about stuff you don't like.
shareI missed the beginning of this movie so I'm not exactly sure how it went down (saw the scene where Kate Hudson complains to her boss), but if he stopped after being told to stop, as you say, then it's categorically NOT harassment. It's stupid, inappropriate, and annoying, but that doesn't make it harrassment. In order to be harassed you have to be continually bothered by something and not be able to put a stop to it. They clearly went out of the way to show that he was some awful person who continually did nothing but bother women with sex jokes as evidenced by the later supermarket scene (it's not a very clever or subtle script), but in a vacuum that's not harrassment.
The 'you're the reason we need feminism, you must be some chauvinistic pig' comment is obviously completely absurd and pathetic, but clearly to be expected.
And I'm not sure you really feel the way you suggest or are just having fun getting a rise out of people. In my opinion, though, the real problem was the boss. In what universe in the U.S. would an HR department not at least immediately upbraid the guy at least out of fear of a suit?
shareI did see that scene and it was ridiculous. There's no way someone in his position would say 'oh you just need to lighten up, that guy's hilarious.' They could obviously all get into lots of trouble if she formally complained. That scene was really stupid and poorly thought out.
shareYeah. But I couldn't help loving the later scene in which the doofus gets terminated. I also loved it when he punched Aidan. I don't think I've ever seen a tap that looked so realistic.
shareThe intent in casting Weston was obvious, he plays characters like this, his portrayal on Elementary was way more disturbing.
Considering the act itself, yes it was sexual harassment. All they had common in life was sharing a cubicle, they didn't grow up together, and weren't friends either, this isn't different from saying it to a complete stranger. Just like telling it to a complete stranger, he paid no foresight to consequences, like potentially getting shot in face, which is very possible in the US either by her or by her husband, whom he probably had never met, it was completely stupid. Even if their boss says (very unrealistically) to lighten up (and not thinking being fired by the company, losing pension and the house) a different employee might sue, and this guy gets on the sex offender registry for life, after which (since such data is publicly searchable) he gets shot in the face by someone whose mother or sister was raped.
Having said that, I actually disagree with being on the sex offender registry being public for the aforementioned reason, and one intended drunken public urination can warrant being on said list, which doesn't mean I sympathize or empathize with most of them, for they actually are criminals.
I agree with you that it was not over the top and obvious (since that's the only time you are fully aware of sexual harassment). But, I would say that I would feel that it was, and even if he did stop, it does not erase the fact that he did it.
He already annoyed/harassed her.
If the fact it was just one time and he stopped is no issue, no one would care getting cat called on the street because it's just one time from one person and it stopped.
Um.... Dude had women in bikinis hanging up in his cubicle. It's an over the too joke for clear cut sexual harassment. There is no debate. That's why it was over the top. Try this ... Go into work tomorrow and to a woman that you barely know talk about your "half boner". See what happens.
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