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Why so scared for the doppelgangers?


Why were they so scared for their doppelgangers? Of course, it would be a little spooky to have a set of doppelgangers, but why would they be afraid of them? If I were in their situtaion, I would be more curious of what had happened than scared, and I would invite the doppelgangers so that we together could figure out what's happened. Ok, there would be a tricky situation by sorting out who's who and who should be together with whom, but really, to panic, fight with and want to kill the doppelganger seems childish!

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Yes. I wondered this as well. That was one thing I didn't really understand in this movie - why they were so terrified. Yes, it would be a very bizarre and unsettling situation, but were the dopplegangers threatening or aggressive? Why were they so scared?

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Yes, and it's a pity that the brother of one of the guys, who was a physicist, was not present. He would probably have been more led by scientific curiosity than fear, and he would have wanted to talk to the doppelgangers to find out more about this curious phenomenon. He might have been able to calm the others down.

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IMO that could be a mild reference to the Twilight Zone episode "The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street", in which all lights go away except in one house, and the people in the street go paranoid about it, thinking the reason for that is that aliens live there. The atmosphere of this lovely film is very twilightzonish, I'm sure the director is a fan of the show.

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Would you trust your quantum counterpart?

I think that if we were all incredibly moral people at the core, then we could have rational or benign interactions with our counterparts.

But the movie did a good job of proving that their fear was justified because it was existential, originating from an unknowable and limitless variety of realities, each containing different versions of themselves.



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This pretty much sums it up. The end of the film justifies the fear the people had in thier other versions. We saw one scene where 2 mike's were tied up. Since there are basically an infinite variety of realties, there are clearly realities where certain characters are very unhappy with how thier life turned out thus far or unhappy with who they ended up being with. All they would have to do is walk through the so called "roulette" wheel and seek out a version they deemed superior to thier own, just like Emily did at the end.

If there really is an infinite number of realities then you also have to assume that there is an infinite number of variations in the characters themselves. That would mean some would be morally sound people and some wouldn't be morally sound people. Mike even suggested going over and killing all of the other versions. The possibilities are infinite and you really wouldn't know wether you could trust them or not. Not to mention the fact that just the act of seeing a different version of yourself would be incredibly unsettling and would freak most people out in a pretty big way.

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I definitely agree and you guys summed it up well. Thinking/talking about something and actually doing it are two very different things. When stuff goes down, you really get the true measure of a person and not just the theoretical version. Plus, just think about something like this actually happened. The pure phantasmagorical nature of it is truly mindbending and horrific, in a sense, like something out of Lovecraft. Between the shock, horror and panic, it is easy to imagine really. I really love the whole philosophical aspect to the whole thing, discussed already, in terms of facing your own insecurities and whatnot. Looking at different versions of you... some better, some not, some pretty similar. The best type of scifi makes you think about deep issues like this in my opinion.

Also, as you guys mentioned, one or maybe two people are a lot different than a group. The whole "mob mentality" and panicky nature of groups is a very real and dangerous thing. We could see the whole contagiousness of fear pretty well in this film and how easily rationality and civility can disappear given the right situation.

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Not that I am against apples and trees, but Nature is just nurture waiting to born, IMO.

May thy blade chip and shatter...

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If there are an infinite amount of realities, then that means there are realities where they do not exist at all. It would mean people and events in the past would stop them from being born.

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Because all of these people are psychologically unhealthy, or, as the movie says in the end, they "are the evil versions of themselves."

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Well, Mike (I think that was his name) has numerous clothing change-ups before he makes that awesome speech about "my double is very dangerous." And since there are clothing change-ups, it's possible Mike has already supplanted himself violently and the warning isn't mere paranoia.




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I could have sworn there was some dialogue/theory about not letting your doppelganger see you, so maybe they were more in fear of creating a unbalanced situation... It's been about a month since I watched this so I could be imagining that!

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yea. I would just go make out with myself lol and i aint even gay bru

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Only the one guy wanted to fight, and that was cuz he was so unhinged.

And even then, it's very likely that didn't occur until AFTER he attempted his stupid ass blackmail thing.

Most of em, especially Hugh, weren't afraid of them. They were scared over the freakiness of the whole situation, but not the other thems.

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I disagree. I think they were afraid of the other versions. And the movie proves that they had every right to be scared. The ending alone solidifies that fact.

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This happens in quite a few films where there are doppelgangers, it's almost as if only one of you is allowed to exist, and so you must fight until only one of you is left!

see: invasion of the body snatchers, the broken.

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I just got done watching this film and first of all I want to say how incredible it was. But about the doppelgangers, I think there's various reasons as to why the characters seem so afraid. Like another user mentioned, there was a part of the brother's notes that mentioned the realities are kept separate, meaning some characters could easily associate interacting with alternate realities as a bad idea (although at least one version of Mikey pays this no regard and assaults another).

But I think a lot of it has to do with internal conflict/anxiety about themselves. How would you feel knowing that there is another you out there? It can make you feel insignificant, you lack some form of individual identity that you thought provided you with a sense of self and you in a way begin to have an existential crisis. How can I be sure that I am me when 'I' am seeing myself? Is the other me essentially, more 'me' than myself? If the characters interacted with their counter-parts, they would literally stare at their insignificance in the face. Furthermore, the discussion on how all these universes stem from different choices leads to anxieties. 'What would I be like if I didn't do X or did Y?' 'Would I be better?' It would be terrifying to see what you could be, good or bad and have to confront yourself from an outsider perspective as you lose your subjective justification that you are living your life and there's nothing you can do about it.

I feel like Emily definitely had this towards the end of the film, hence her constant search through the dark zone for a house where everything seems fine. She comes from a reality that is broken, her relationships are strained (interactions with guests at the house seems as though no one hardly knows each other/how to deal with issues they all have- countless things get broken in the realities she is in, more than just a sign of the universe, but a metaphor) whereas the house she finds is idealistic. Emily, to me, feels scared that she could essentially collapse with her reality and everything is for nothing, and another self will have the idealistic life she always dreamed of, the life she could have had (despite the dancing failure) if she wasn't so hesitant in her choices etc. The only way to overcome the weaknesses in herself is to face and kill the other self, representing all the things she's scared to face (the past that might of been) and justify to herself that she holds the power and is the 'true' Emily.

It feels like a lot of things really, both the anxiety and confusion of the situation, the countless possibilities of what the other person might be like, the knock-on effects and the realisation of the insignificance of yourself/facing yourself from the outside. It doesn't feel like every character is scared for the same reasons, or to the same degree.

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you should read the double, upon which the movie enemy was based!

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http://soundcloud.com/dj-snafu-bankrupt-euros

Coz lifes too short to listen to Madlib

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Exactly because of the point Mike makes. If my counterpart goes on a binger and starts acting out I would be freaked out also! If there's 1 guy in the entire world I would never want to fight it would be myself, i know what I am capable of and that's the most frightening part... Heck, I'd prefer getting knocked out by Arnie any day of the weak instead of getting my throat/artery bitten out by some other version of me!

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Heck, I'd prefer getting knocked out by Arnie any day of the weak instead of getting my throat/artery bitten out by some other version of me!


You have never bitten out someone's throat or artery in your life and never will.

You would probably tough talk yourself, poorly swing a couple of off target punches, get out of breath then tough talk yourselves out and into bed then wake up in the morning regretting the whole thing with a bruised cheek bone.

personally i'd rather have arnie straight knock you out rather than some wannabe tough guy on a high winding everybody up.

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