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So why did Michel ... [SPOILERS]


... kill the Inspector?

After he'd killed Henri, and Franck had Henri's blood all over him and his shirt, it would have been easy for Michel to make a case to the Inspector that Franck was responsible for both deaths. The Inspector already knew that Franck was at the lake when Pascal died; it wouldn't have been hard to make a case that Franck had killed Pascal so he could have Michel for himself, and that Henri had found out about it and then Franck had killed him to silence him. It was Michel's best way out.

But then, I'm not clear what happened after that. The recording of the film I saw was very dark in the final few minutes. After Michel killed the Inspector, did he then kill Franck? What happened?



You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

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its an open ending. make what you wnat out of it. weird though

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I couldn't make much of it, to be honest, because it was too dark to see what was on the screen.

I heard Franck call Michel's name, I think twic, and then the film ended. So is the open ending just a matter of the viewer decingin whether Michel snuck away, or came back and killed Franck ... is that all there is?




You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

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I know. Its just totally crap. It sucked and left me unsatisfied.
I have to google ..maybe i find something by the director ectr

I will let you know

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Thanks for the replies, MJ. :thumbsup:



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Seems the director wanted all very realistic, no music ectr.
It is said that the ending is up to the viewer.

The one question the viewers have to ask is:
Whats more important LOVE or LIFE?

He sees taht Michel is the murderer, he hides in the wood ..but then he calls him.....get it?


Me either..LOL

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Something else:

When he hided in the woods and calls for Michel, it is only for ONE reason.

The reason is to feel secure!! ??????
He calls him to see if he is in the near. He kinda 'tricks' him.
If he does not answer back, he must be far away....he can be sure to go to his car or whatever without beeing attacted by Michell.

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I think that is what the director intended. Watched the movie last night for the first time. It was slow moving, but, it kept my interest because I wanted to know 'what would happen'....as said by others it does move very slow (VERY slow), and the dark shots were VERY difficult to follow and see. I ended up after the first 10 minutes putting it with subtitle as I found it difficult to understand what was said as the sound was low. Thank you for post. I came to ask the same questions.

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After Michel kills the inspector, he runs away. But we don't know this for sure, and neither does Franck, which is why the scene is so pulse-pounding. Is Michel going to emerge out of the darkness and kill Franck? That would be the Hollywood ending, certainly.

The big question we're supposed to ask during this final scene, of course, is why in the world Franck is calling out to someone he knows is a cold-blooded killer and is close enough in proximity to murder him. I wouldn't say the ending is particularly open-ended - instead, it's showing us how far Franck has allowed himself to become deluded in the name of love. Even after everything that's happened in the film, he's still concerned about staying with this guy he knows is a threat to his life. But their relationship is an illusion, obviously, and they cannot possibly belong together. In the end, Franck is self-stranded, alone in the darkness with no one to console him.

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well said and written. thank you

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If you ask me I think Frank wanted to die, or at leats he didn't mind dying. The first time we see him in the dark and calling Michel, after the detective interrogates him, he knew he was there, felt his presence maybe.

"No condoms?" "Why do you care, it's only a blowjob", and then having unprotected sex with Michel also says a lot about it I guess. He didn't care for living, he just desired passion and human contact.
Aside of that, when he agreed to have a relationship with Michel knowing he had killed someone I thought WTF!, then I thought: I guess he saw that as a sacrifice Michel made for him. Any thoughts on this?

I see this movie as a very powerful and sad portrait of human loneliness. I actually loved the ending, found it overwhelming and breathtaking.

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I agree with this post although, more than human loneliness, I think emotional shutdown is the central theme of the movie.

The movie is about a naive character (a bunch of naive characters when you include Henri and Eric) looking for a connection in all the wrong places - in this case, a cruising spot where people numb each other out emotionally for instant sexual gratification. According to the movie, the confrontation of those who are emotionally vulnerable and those who are emotionally numb fatalistically results in the first group's death. Henri dies. Eric, who wanted an exclusive connection with Michel, died. The inspector, who called out the emotional numbness of the people from the cruising spot, dies... and whether or not Franck, the most desperate character, will die, he's got the blood of his people on his hands.

Michel is the most emotionally numb character, which in movie language makes him the killer. Unlike many other secondary characters, he does not want to meet outside the cruising spot and sees it as a getaway from his normal life - that we know nothing of. People trying to bridge both worlds by establishing a connection with him causes him to shut them out, which in movie language means murder. Those who are emotionally shut down survive, and those who are emotionally vulnerable are shut down.

One could also posit that, by accepting three people's murder, Franck is on his way to shutting himself down completely in order to pursue his own personal obsession.

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Excellent summation, just one clarification- I think Eric was the chronic diddler who provided the only comic relief in the film. I don't think he wound up dying; I don't recall whether the first murder victim was named Eric as well...






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It was Henri that wanted to die when he realized how pointless his desires were. It was why he lured Michel off the beach and into the woods. When Franck tries to stop his throat wound, Henri tells him no and that he finally got what he was after.

While Franck is hiding, Michel is calling out his name, saying no harm will come to him, promising him that elusive night together. As soon as Michel stops, that is when Franck comes out all alone, abandoned, or having missed the opportunity - however depraved the circumstance - to be with someone through the night. Or maybe he is back to being safe in the dark. That is the openness of the ending.

The movie is told by the time of day. The purely sexual encounters are in the bright light of the summer sun. What the men do on the beach and in the woods is meant to stay there. It's obvious and shallow. With no attachment. You see it for what it is. It is not meant to be taken home. Henri and Franck invite each other out to dinner several times - but it doesn't happen.

Twilight is when things go wrong. It is when Michel kills Pascal. And when Franck, wanting to glimpse more of Michel, witnesses the murder. And when Henri tired of what he sees in the daylight ends it by taunting Michel. And Michel stabs the Inspecteur.

Maybe what Henri wanted was a little bit of alone time with Franck under cover of the forgiving night. He didn't have the looks or the body to woo Franck into the woods during the harsh exposure of day.

It is a very thought-provoking film. But I had to wonder if there were no other outlets for the gay men in this area since their choices were no-strings sex from 10am to 6pm in their littoral enclave, or loneliness and death the rest of the time? Depicting gay man as only alternating between carnal hedonist and abject lethal despair is outright antiquated and dangerously simplistic.



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I think Henri sacrifices himself in order inspector realizes Michel is the Killer, because Franck was the main suspect so far. So it was a favour to both his friend and himself, to break free from loneliness.
I do also think Henri desired to be with Franck, but he would never really dare to ask, let alone to prompt the encounter; and it is very likely that Frack wouldn't agree either.
You know, life can be very boring; I myself live in a small quiet town, I go to the same coffe spot 3 or 4 times a week and to the same (straight but friendly) bar every friday, so maybe that's what happens in this place in the movie.
And well, I do as well know or have seen many gay men that come out to themselves and to the world as shallow sex hedonists (then complainning why nobody bothers to truly or deeply bothers to know and/or care about them), which is I think a good critique to the guild, but of course, not all of us are that way.


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100% about human loneliness.

all of our characters are lonely, but especially franck.

and forget the fact that hes in love with a murderer, but the key lies in his relationship with henri.

this is going to sound bad, and i know there are exceptions, but in no world, would someone like franck ever have a connection with henri. the world doesnt exactly work like that. ESPECIALLY for the fact that franck is the one who approached henri.

he needs that human connection. and hes taking it wherever he can get it. this is not to deman henri or anything. but when you go to cruising spots, you go to have sex. not to make friends with overweight depressed people. thats how "desperate" franck was.

its beautiful, really.

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I've seen it another way.

I think Guiraudie may have wanted to show in his film how relationships based on sex were not enough to really please a human being. Michel may have killed his first lover because himself refuses to involve better in a true relationship. (Franck will have the same conversation with Michel later : about why don't we spend much more time together?) Michel restraints himself to pure sex relationships but can't admit it's not enough.

Franck is not that way. He wants to know people better (that's why he's the only one speaking to Henri, so far from gay stereotypes). And maybe you could see this last scene as Franck's challenge to explain Michel how pure sacrifice can be : "Look, I'm ready to sacrifice myself to your knife, so open your heart, stop killing people and your own life at the same time."

Otherwise, I wouldn't see much interest in the whole scenario...

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Because he knew the inspector was on to him. Trying to frame Franck wouldn't have made things much easier, it would have turned into one person's word against another and he'd probably still have to be arrested. Franck would have explained the blood as soon as he saw the inspector. Also, it seems like Michel's DNA would be all over Henri's body too.

But this movie wasn't completely logical. I thought it was pretty extreme for Franck to not do anything about witnessing the murder, then it was extreme for Michel to not hide the first guy's clothes and car unless he really was convinced that people would think it was an accident. And then it was extreme for Henri to sacrifice himself like that.

The ending was left open-ended. Michel was looking for Franck, presumably to kill him. And at first Franck was hiding but he started calling out for Michel as if he was willing to be caught/killed, but the movie stops there, you don't see if they saw each other again.

I was at a screening with the director and he said the point was that Franck was more afraid of being alone than he was of getting killed, so in that final scene when he realized he was completely alone he couldn't take it and put himself in danger. It also explains why he was so willing to overlook the first murder, and was so casual about not using condoms.

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Franck was more afraid of being alone than he was of getting killed, so in that final scene when he realized he was completely alone he couldn't take it and put himself in danger.

Interesting commentary. A film like this does not warrant a Hollywood ending in which the killer is caught.

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Franck was one sad, pathetic individual.

I'm sure we are supposed to be sympathetic towards him, but at the end of it all...i found myself HOPING that Michel would kill him. It would be just perfect, considering his lies helped kept the guy walking anyway.

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From the trivia section:

An alternate ending filmed but not used in the final film showed Frank looking for Michel and again meeting him in the woods. The two then kiss and makeup and drive away together. The finished film instead ends with Frank just calling out Michel's name in the darkness.


This alternate ending can be seen on the Blu-ray. Now that's pretty much what I imagine happened after the film ended. The main character was so stupid and naive yet likable at the same time.



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The ending made me think of abusive relationships.
In a straight setting it is mostly the woman who gets beaten up, ridiculed, raped and yet she stays with him. Because 'I love him' or because 'he needs me' or because 'deep down he is a good man'. The deeper motive perhaps is that she is afraid to be left alone.

Franck was falling in love with Michel, for god knows which reason. He didn't know him yet and after they'd met Michel did his best to keep Franck at a distance. Still Frank seems to 'love him'. In the end where Franck is calling Michel's name, he might have decided that Michal is 'a good man deep down and he needs me'. But the ulterior motive is not being left alone.


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but at the end of it all...i found myself HOPING that Michel would kill him.

You and me both. I couldn't believe someone was that stupid. Even Henri thought so, but sadly he paid the ultimate price for befriending such a loser.

As another poster mentioned, the fact that Franck did and said nothing after witnessing a murder had me screaming at the TV. But then I had to remind myself that people do stupid things in the name of love. And that is what got me through this movie.

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Funnily enough, Michel actually said to Franck straight up, "You are stupid, anyway." And even he had no reaction to that.

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Michel actually said to Franck straight up, "You are stupid, anyway." And even he had no reaction to that.

LOL So true. I'd forgotten about that.

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Also, would an older inspector walk around alone without backup in that environment in the near dark, where murder suspects were lurking..?

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