South is gross
Long live California and New York....
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Please do not stereotype Southerners by this show. It would be a disservice to the many wonderful people whom are always ready to greet you with a smile and welcome you. Don't let that y'all talk throw you. They hide behind some of their alleged slowness and southern speak to allow others to act like they are smarter than they are until they step in it. Those aren't glints in their smiles...they're daggers!!
shareAgreed. I am from Central NY myself, but have lived in the south plenty of years now (due to military) my husband is from SC and he has actually watched a few bits of this show and laughed. This is not how normal southern people act, and I can even attest to that. Bless your heart.
share"Bless your heart."
Wooo! :) I know what that means!
Fightin' words.. Ha Ha, just kidding. :) I'm trying to move to Dallas, and I want to get a t-shirt that says that.
I thought you came up here to have a nervous breakdown. ..I decided not to have one.
I think it's funny how this guy is talking about the people of SC and states that NY and CA residents are so much better... How comical...
I'm from the Charleston area, but in the last 15 years, I've had the opportunity to live all over the country due to work. I can honestly say, that every state I've lived in has it's bad and good areas/people. There is no such thing as one state having "better" people than another... to be honest, I think the Southern Charm crowd acts mild compared to the reality shows from CA...
Yeah, why is the South gross? This is an honest question. I've heard the weather is very hot and sticky, but that's the only thing I can think of.
I thought you came up here to have a nervous breakdown. ..I decided not to have one.
Insects the size of small dogs don't help. Then again, I live in Maryland, and we become a sauna in summer, and mosquitoes have been known to abduct children here (up to age 8 or 9 sometimes), so guess we are just as bad.
Classy
shareIf you're truly a Southerner, you must know what "precious" means and how to use Hellman's and Duke's Mayo.
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Neither of those phrases are insults. Precious is generally used as "Isn't she precious?" when talking about how cute a child or a dog is, as you suggested. It can even be used in talking about an inanimate object like how someone has decorated their living room "Isn't this room just "precious"?
Bless your little heart is a sympathizing phrase and isn't an insult. I don't know if you're old enough to remember Tennessee Ernie Ford, but he used to say "Bless your little pea-pickin' heart". It was one of his signature phrases, and it came out of his mouth at least once every time you were around him.
There are many, many other phrases I heard my entire life living in Tennessee which I still hear now and then. When you live around them and hear them constantly, they are very soothing. I live in Florida now near my son and his family (my grandchildren) and I get laughed at when I come out with something from my past, then I have to explain what I said. In case you don't know, Florida is definitely NOT a Southern state...it has more Northerners here than in the North...lol. I've even had people here hear me speak and tell me I was from Tennessee...I've been here since late 2003 and still haven't lost my Southern vernacular/accent, and I'm proud of that.
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If you listen closely, you can tell what part of the country people are from. I was born in NW Tennessee and lived in Memphis all my adult life until I moved to be near my son and his family in Central Florida on the Atlantic Ocean, and many people recognize the accent from the part of Tennessee where I was born and raised. Since where I live is near NASA, and more than one military bases, on the ocean and about an hour's drive from Walt Disney World, there is such a mixture of nationalities and cultures and languages. It's a unique place to live.
shareSounds like we live near one another. I'm in SB. Just south of CB. And I really enjoy this damn show for some reason!
share"Bless Your Heart" can be followed up by an insult. Its used to shield one. So its not an insult in of itself. I agree about "precious". But these terms are mainly used by Southern women. Southern men don't say any of this stuff , and I believe the women ham it up for the show.
Another word that Southern women love to use is "tacky". To most people tacky means cheap or gaudy. But in the South tacky has many more meanings. Its something that is both cheap as well as inappropriate, or even low class . If something is "tacky", its a very strong insult. To call someone "tacky" implies they lack polish or good taste.
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".
Of course they do. I'd forgotten about tacky, and as I said there are so many phrases that I was raised with I couldn't begin to remember them all. But, most of them are soft and pleasant to hear when they aren't being spoken by Hollywood-coached actors, who are the worst speaking a Southern dialect, such as when they say somethin' or anythin' to name a few. I cringe...
shareAlso when a person says that something is "lovely" it's really an insult.
Saying that something is lovely is the southerner's nice way of saying that something is ugly.
"That's a lovely dress you're wearing." 😦
Not always...it depends on the inflection in your voice and the look on your face. Southerners have a great way to hide insults, but they can also be very openly friendly to people and mean every word they say. Sometimes, it's so difficult to tell the difference.
shareI've heard lovely used many times by my inlaws in a positive way. I was even given a gag gift when i married. A book on how to be southern written by the junior league and they said lovely was good and that nice is bad lol. I think it depends on tone and maybe even which state.
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Lived,in the south ALL my life, North Carolina, Virginia, Alabama, Texas, Florida, Georgia and NEVER heard lovely used as an insult in that way.
Now, if you had said "Just lovely" I could have agreed with that. When anyone says a given situation is "just lovely" it's definitely not.
Never watched this show, but I'm sure they played up the stereotypes that everyone expects.
In reality southern sensibilities aren't all that different from anywhere else, but then, who would tune in?
Who put the acid in my Spam?
Southerners do not have the market on double-talk. If the person likes you and they say "precious" or "bless your heart" they mean it. I am certain there is a northern/southwestern/etc.. equivalent. If someone doesn't like you, they are probably mocking you behind your back, no matter where they live or what they say to your face.
shareNew York and LA are garbage dumps. No one in New York even from the finest of families would fit well into a nice Southern family.
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".
My NY society dad married my social register southern mom....and though the first meeting probably seemed like a scene from Giant....good manners and etiquette are pretty universal .....Now I would wager my teen girls curse far less than their northern cousins...and the youngest has brunches and dinner parties once a month with her friends which do not include red solo cups or cell phones...her cousin seem older and faster though they are the same age.
shareYes, they wouldn't, RVA22. Because New Yorkers and LA-ers are not bigoted, ruthless, snobby, and stupid. Those Southerners, with their big smiles and a cold glasses of sweet tea (and I am one) SEEM so nice and well-mannered...and they are, usually. But underneath that cloying sweetness is an ignorance and intolerance that has no end. Which is why they still vote Republican. Beware, the "friendliness". They are just stockpiling info on you, for later use. LoL.
Exactly!
shareI don't think so. Because I have read books about the Southern Aristocracy and the New England one- and in many writings, the authors concur that even the moderately wealthy Southerners had more social graces than the Northeast elite did. And you can still see that today. Bigotry has nothing to do with it. There is nothing wrong with being a Republican.
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".
Actually, voting Republican in the south is relatively new. Until the 1980s or so, all those conservatives in the South still were Democrats. It was only during the Reagan and Clinton years that they changed party (except Zell Miller). So Republicans are a new thing in the South, not a long standing tradition. (Traditionally, the Republicans were the party of carpetbaggers, and Southern grudges last a LONG time.)
Abraham Lincoln was a Republican... and yeah you're right... The Dems from long ago are now the Republicans of today and same goes the other way.
But it was wayyyyy before Ronald Reagan came into office...
It was actually when LBJ signed the The Civil Rights Act of 1964 on July 2nd...
Thats when the switch occurred.
i know all this. My family is from the South. Democrats until the 1960s or so. They were big George Wallace supporters.
"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".
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I love it when people speak of the South in monolithic terms and try to assert that it has a lock on bigotry and ignorance. I lived around enough to know that's a crock. Boston, Philadelphia, Boston and NYC are far more segregated than Atlanta or New Orleans. Southern cities on average have accomodated large black populations for years, so it stands to reason that they are better assimilated.
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