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S3 E5 "The House of Special Purpose"

posted 7 years ago by Popcorn Kernel (2368)
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More of the philosophy related discussions and dialog about the nature of truth.

a chicken is an egg's way of making another egg.
the chicken sees it one way, the egg sees it another way.
it's all a matter of perspective.

Nikki: Right now she believes her husband is fucking his secretary, That's factual.
Sy: But it never happened!
Nikki: that doesn't make it any less true
Instead of paying 100 G to keep us from showing her the tape, now you gotta pay 200G for us to convince her of the other truth

this whole concept of "the other truth"
alternative facts!

the story about Laura Buxton and the red balloon
that's a true story
coincidence, random life
Here's another story

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[–] Sentient Meat (1509) 7 years ago

I think Kundera in the Unbearable Lightness of Being quoted Nietzsche who said Einmal ist Keinmal... Or One time might as well be nothing (literally one time is no time) which whether you're discussing Indian Philosophy or Calculus understands that in the context of an infinite boundless universe... eventually all singular events would eventually be reduced to nothingness. On the other hand given enough time, if you accept the idea of Eternal Return... something that happens once could theoretically happen again over and over... then giving weight and importance to being.

My point being with regard to the chicken or the egg... if you accept Nietzsche's premise... it doesn't really matter because they both keep on recycling for eternity. How does this tie into Fargo?... who knows?... the endless repeating theme of Cain and Abel, Jacob and Esau. In Kieslowski's Dekalog... the first episode is about how Thou Shalt Not Have Other Gods Before Me. It's about how a scientist and his son make every possible mathematical calculation to ensure it is safe to go ice skating, but the joke's on them because the kid still falls through the ice and dies.

No matter what the best laid plans are... shit's still going to happen.

Who knows, maybe on rewatch I'll have a totally different take.

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[–] Popcorn Kernel (2368) 7 years ago

No matter what the best laid plans are... shit's still going to happen.

YUP!
and Ray and Nikki's plans are far from best laid. They are idiot plans!
It's the ship of fools, just like the last song

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[–] Sentient Meat (1509) 7 years ago

And I guess I'm a fool because I ship Ray and Nikki... those lovable idiots...

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[–] orangeflava (1726) 7 years ago

lovable idiots is right!

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[–] Popcorn Kernel (2368) 7 years ago

They are sweet, but I keep waiting to find out that Nikki is somehow conning Ray or using him. They are certainly a mismatched couple in terms of looks, and she's smarter than him, so I keep thinking she's playing him in some way.
Also don't forget they have already been responsible for two murders. They are cute because they seem in love but they leave a wake of destruction and death behind them.

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[–] Sentient Meat (1509) 7 years ago

Yeah but you're thinking about Ray and his terrible hairstyle... There was a time when Ewan McGregor was a bigger sex symbol than MEW ever was. He's a lot older and put on weight for the role... but hell, if Jesse Plemons and Kirsten Dunst can get engaged IRL... why not Ray and Nikki? But yes, I agree... we are supposed to think Ray is hideous and incompetent next to Nikki. But is she really that bright? I think it's more that Ray is extremely dumb. Their attempt to fool his brother with the sex tape makes me think her IQ is south of 100 herself... although she does have some street smarts I suppose. I think she's mostly good looking and motivated, that's about it.

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[–] Popcorn Kernel (2368) 7 years ago

Of course Ewan is a hottie mc hotterson, but Ray isn't. They've got him in a prosthetic fatsuit and a terrible wig plus he's poor and dumb. The real Ewan is hot, plus talented and smart and rich and has a cool accent. They are apples and oranges! It's like the real Charlize Theron vs the character she plays in Monster. One is supremely fuckable and the other one you wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole.

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[–] Sentient Meat (1509) 7 years ago

I heard he put on weight for the role... but maybe he did a prosthetic too. Lol... Charlize had major prosthetic facial work in Monster. Ewan pretty much looks the same. Shows the power of a bad haircut and his acting as well.

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[–] Popcorn Kernel (2368) 7 years ago

But the Emmet character isn't so chubby, so did he film Emmet's scenes months before Ray's scenes?

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[–] Sentient Meat (1509) 7 years ago

http://people.com/bodies/ewan-mcgregor-weight-gain-fargo/

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[–] Popcorn Kernel (2368) 7 years ago

Ahh, so after that first episode then it is a fatsuit

"Because Ray is only nude in the first episode, McGregor began losing weight again to get back down to his original weight as filming continued. (He used prosthetics and padding to play Ray in non-nude scenes.) The actor then began looking gaunt from the rapid weight loss, but McGregor felt this helped him to portray Emmit.

“The fact that he gets more gaunt-looking in his face has been quite useful for the story,” he said. “It’s worked out quite nicely.”

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[–] dt123 (689) 7 years ago

Every time I think she's using him, I remember how they're really into the bridge tourny and have a common goal together. Or maybe she's just an opportunist and glommed on to her parole officer just bc she could.

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[–] Popcorn Kernel (2368) 7 years ago

Maybe she's using him for a big bridge win, since you need a partner for that game. Kind of like a business partnership, and she's using the romance angle to keep him hooked?
It's just that even in the show universe, she is out of his league and he knows it. Right before he got fired when he was explaining to his boss:
"I love her, and SHE loves ME. ME! A girl like THAT, loves ME!"
and it was understood that this was some kind of miracle or extreme good luck.

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[–] dt123 (689) 7 years ago

Right.

Also, note she did get herself home after the beating. Maybe he's all she has?

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