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Wow, another drama that feels the need to steal a bombastic name.


Tyrannosaur, Submarine, Leviathan, Carnage, can they please stop hogging such interesting name when they're really not about anything like that?

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To be frank, initially I thought this was gonna be a realistic drama or a 'what if' scenario if a Leviathan like creature appeared and how it affected the lives of people surrounding the event. And based on what I read, that isn't the case.

Even the bloody poster suggested that. I understand its based on Hobbes' work, but frankly I just hate false marketing. Thankfully read the synopsis of the film, saved my time for other flicks.

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I know right, I was really pissed off when I read Catcher in the Rye and found out it was't about a game of catch in a field. Like wise my disappointment at Prometheus not being about that guy who stole fire from the gods was pretty overwhelming. =D

No but seriously, I like a name to have a deeper meaning. For me the moments in some of the films you have listed where the titles take on new or different meanings makes the film all the more poignant. For example in Submarine where the final shot is of the two of them standing ankle deep in water, no longer submerged but everything above the surface, like they are seeing each other for the first time.

I Sympathise with Lars Von Trier.

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People make mention, even in the movie, to the Leviathan of the book of Job, but it seemed more likely to refer to the Leviathan of John Hobbes. The film is quite a criticism of the modern Russian state.

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Da old avengers movie wuz not bout superheroez

Werd 2 ur mudda, bruddafckka

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Very good, mikey!
Who's my big boy?!
Who's my big, smart boy?!

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I cud be mistaken but cud it be...moi?

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We heard you first time, dickhead.

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@OP:
I'm sorry the content of these films went completely over your head. You might want to stick with the standard Hollywood fare made by Michael Bay and Roland Emmerich.

But whom are these dramas stealing these names from? Are they owned by anyone in particular? And do you really consider the word "submarine" to be bombastic?

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I would say that the original 1989 film with the name "Leviathan" definitely counts. When I was looking to watch the 1989 film, I wasn't aware that it was a 1989 film because I was looking for "Leviathan." So I saw 2014 and figured it was fairly new, only to watch for goodness knows how long to find out it had nothing to do with a creature of the deep, but was instead a political drama that gets more depressing as it continues.

It wasn't until I checked again to find out, oh, there's a 1989 film named Leviathan, and it was actually what I was looking for. This movie's title is misleading, because it has nothing at all to do with a leviathan, and being a snarky jerk about it doesn't help. It's like making a romantic comedy called Deep Star Six. Sure, there's a horror movie already called Deep Star Six, but since we're just going to use a misleading name, let's use theirs.

It's not about "going over someone's head," it's about a title that has NOTHING to do with the plot. What was the Leviathan in this film? Some mayor from a hick nowhere town in the middle of Russia? Who cares about that? Call it what it is, depressing movie that gets progressively more depressing. Here's an idea, call it Depression Quest.

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Leviathan is a metaphor monster that leaves you powerless. That monster is not necessarily a physical thing. In this case it's the corruption that poisons everything.

But please forget that this is a work of art, not a action flick.

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The name comes from a quote from the Book of Job, which plays an important part in the movie's theme. The priest character quotes it directly and even uses the word "Leviathan." In the film's story, it becomes a metaphor for the monstrous destructive capacity of the corrupt system.

"Leviathan" is an entirely appropriate title for the film. People who disagree are literal-minded dimwits. Sorry, but if your mind doesn't grasp basic allusions and metaphors, then you really have no business commenting on titles.

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This.

It was an absorbing movie. Powerful and often awe-inspiring at the lengths the director went with the story.

Leviathan is a great and worthy title.

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Not only that, it was an allusion of demonic ruination, brought by the corrupted priest IMO.
about the 1989 movie, it is a decent horror, but knock-off of the Thing. I have no problems with different movies with the same name, if they are about different things. There is a time for drama, and there is for horror. But the 2014 movie is a great drama and 1989 an average horror....

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You must have been devastated by the lack of animals in "Reservoir Dogs" and "Raging Bull", too. Did the lack of a hurricane in "Gone With The Wind" ruin the film for you?

By the way, neither Carnage nor Submarine were dramas - they were comedies.

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