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What was TRAVIS' problem?

posted 10 years ago by IMDB_Vits
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First of all, I know there are threads discussing whether this movie was accurate or not (they never are, right?), but there are so many I couldn't read them all. Specially because most of you contradict each other in terms of the details from the trial. Therefore, let's pretend that the movie was 100% accurate.

It's true that after 5 months dating it's too soon to talk about marriage. But to say that after 5 months it's not dating but just friends? At least he could've said that they were friends with benefits. It still would've been a lie but it would've sound closer to the truth.

I'm not saying the murder was justified, nor that she had the right to stalk him. But she had every right to be angry at him. Yes, he told her from the start that he was a devouted Mormon, but he never said he only wanted to marry a Mormon. Besides, if he likes following his church's rules so much, why was he in a supposedly casual relationship (sex or no sex)?

[–] phil0323 10 years ago

Travis wasn't a saint. I'm not defending jodi, but I think they both lied and manipulated each other. Jodi was the first one to reach her breaking point.

[–] km117 10 years ago

I just watched this and he did tell her someday he wanted to marry a Mormon. After she converted her religion he then said it was too soon to talk marriage. He also told her they were just having fun and that he never loved her.

[–] kndykss 10 years ago

I don't think he could truly deal with a serious relationship... he was conflicted. He had a lot of issues that stemmed from his childhood- he had a horrific childhood of abuse and abandonment and while he overcame so much and made a nice life for himself. deep down I don't think he knew how to handle completely giving himself. He had a lot of gilfriends and for the most part each relationship was pretty long term. He wanted to settle down with a nice Mormon wife and have a family but it was a struggle..

[–] Cheena71 10 years ago

When this movie first came out, I posted that Travis brought some of this upon himself. Not the murder! Knowing that Jodi wanted more yet he wasn't honest with her was unfair. I got chewed out about how I'm blaming the victim, how awful I was.

Travis knew what Jodi wanted....a relationship. Everyone, a year ago, posted that he was struggling with his faith. Travis knew he was sinning against the Mormon faith. He knew she was crazy about him and wanted marriage. When she started acting irrational, Travis knew it could get harry. I'm sure he didn't think she would murder him but he played with fire.

Travis did not deserve to be murdered. No one does! I'm sure if he had the opportunity to do things different, he would (not being funny at all). I can't look at Travis and say he was 100% innocent.

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[–] Cheena71 10 years ago

Now was this a reply for me? I didn't mention five months but your post doesn't really fit a response to mine.

[–] bluemagicmist 10 years ago

Cheena71
When this movie first came out, I posted that Travis brought some of this upon himself. Not the murder! Knowing that Jodi wanted more yet he wasn't honest with her was unfair. I got chewed out about how I'm blaming the victim, how awful I was.

Travis knew what Jodi wanted....a relationship. Everyone, a year ago, posted that he was struggling with his faith. Travis knew he was sinning against the Mormon faith. He knew she was crazy about him and wanted marriage. When she started acting irrational, Travis knew it could get harry. I'm sure he didn't think she would murder him but he played with fire.

Travis did not deserve to be murdered. No one does! I'm sure if he had the opportunity to do things different, he would (not being funny at all). I can't look at Travis and say he was 100% innocent.

100% of what? Are you 100% innocent of whatever it is you think he is guilty of?

Your post is full of contradictions, you say he brought it upon himself, but not the murder! Then what did he bring upon himself?
You're using soft language disguising your want to use strong language like, 'he deserved it'! Go on, just say it, and be ready for the wrath it will bring.

I can use the same logic to Jodi that you use for Travis.

Jodi KNEW he was struggling with his faith. Jodi KNEW he was sinning against his Mormon Faith! Jodi KNEW he didn't want to marry her! Jodi KNEW he didn't want a relationship with her! Jodi KNEW she was crazy about him!

And still, she prepared everything for murder, traveled to his house to *beep* him and kill him.

Remember, even though this a t.v movie, these are real people you are discussing. Maybe, one day, you will meet 'crazy', and I hope the people that help you will not condemn you, as you have, Travis.

[–] Cheena71 10 years ago

I notice that you have responded to my posts and yet several others have posted very similar responses.

First of all, you come off very angry. I'm not sure what your personal experiences have been but you certainly don't know mine.

I have not blamed Travis for his murder. When I refer to his actions, I'm talking about his relationship with Jodi. You come off as if anyone who mentions his behavior towards Jodi in their relationship being inappropriate, they are blaming him for his murder.

Have you contacted his friends to spew this same message? They told him that he should leave Jodi alone. Does that mean they're saying he deserves to be murdered? No!

Whatever your problem is my response is yours. I get that you're upset but don't you twist my words to justify your anger at the situation! Do that by yourself!

[–] rena165129 9 years ago

I agree with you Cheena71, Travis didn't deserve to die, but he did lead Jodi on, and when he was with Katie he was still sleeping with Jodi. It's like he wanted to have his cake and eat it too.
the saddest thing in life is wasted talent

[–] Cheena71 9 years ago

Thank you, Rena. There are several other posters who have expressed the same feelings on Travis and Jodi.

[–] deem_bastille 9 years ago

his comforter had pink flowers.

let me say that again... pink flowers.

pink
flowers.

he's gay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OH THANK YOU GOD! THANK YOU SO BLOODY MUCH!!! Basil Fawlty

[–] ZestyZehbra 8 years ago

You'd be closer to the truth if you assumed this movie is 30% accurate. Even that's too much, actually. The scenes with Jodi and Travis alone are pretty much completely made up. How can they be accurate? If only Jodi and Travis were there, and Travis is dead and Jodi is a well recorded liar, who would they have interviewed to know what was said in these moments? Even the parts that were based on actual facts, the part were Travis is talking outside with his friends--that was actually in a bedroom and the woman of the married couple suddenly felt uncomfortable and realized Jodi was eavesdropping from behind the door. And the part where she sleeps with another man and sends him the pics, that was probably the movies juiced up drama version of her commenting on his myspace pic that he was fat, something that started an argument between the two. So pretty much none of it was accurate; treat the movie and the real people as two different entities.

Your next question is hard to answer as it's based on opinion, but I very much believe that it's too early to talk about marriage after just 5 months. Studies have proven that it takes 2 years to fully know your partner. I worked selling jewelry for a while, and whenever a couple came in for an engagement or anniversary ring (the one that's put on at the wedding, not to be mistaken for a gift given for one's anniversary) I always asked how long they had been together. They thought I was just making conversation, but really, if it was under 2 years I was asking so I could split the sale with someone, so when they returned it after the engagement got called off for whatever reason, I only took half a hit (it hurt our sales when we got returns). And trust me when I say that 80% of the time i was right to do so. So yes, 5 months is way too early to start talking about marriage, in my opinion. Especially when it's someone you didn't start dating after years of actually knowing the person, like Travis and Jodi.

That being said, when he calls her his "friend," this was after she'd already proven to be a psychopath. She alienated him from his friends, acted insanely jealous, texted people from his phone, and broke into his house in the middle of the night by this point. Would you want an actual relationship with someone like that? I honestly think that had she just acted normally and not pushed him, eventually, at his own pace, he would have taken things to the next level. But you don't do that with someone who's already acting like a lunatic.