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My opinion of Kristen Bell and her husband.


I've been a Kristen Bell fan since Veronica Mars the TV show.
I've rented or purchased most of her movies and was a Kickstarter contributor.

Lately, via twitter she and her husband are showing themselves
to be the typical Hollywood liberal hypocrites.

As with all liberals they have their facts wrong. They have typical " Do as I
say, not as I do" attitude.

It's getting very hard for me to continue to support her.

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Which facts do they have wrong? How are they being hypocritical?

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Currently, Obamacare allows Non-Profit organizations to not have to pay for birth control. It's written into the law that insurance companies must pay for it.

Obama can very easily issue an Executive Order mandating the insurance company,
not Hobby Lobby to pay for this. He won't do it because he needs the issue to
fund raise from his base.

Kristen Bell and Dax Shepard (and most other liberals) are blaming the Supreme
Court. They are incorrect in doing so. Justice Anthony Kennedy left the door
open for Obama to help the women needing birth control. But Obama won't do it.

That's why Bell and Shepard have their facts wrong.

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Ah, so really, like most conservatives, your definition of "fact" is "how I want things to be."

Liberals are 100% correct to blame the Supreme Court. This ruling allows owners of supposedly secular businesses to impose their religious beliefs on their employees. If Hobby Lobby wanted to be treated as a religious organization, there are avenues for that.

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Like most liberals your applaud the Supreme Court when they decide in your favor.

You criticize them when decide against you.

Chief Justice Roberts rewrote the Obama Care law calling government mandated payments a tax. Thus he was the deciding factor in approving Obamacare.
The Supreme Court is supposed to uphold the rule of law and the constitution.
They cannot re-write laws.

By doing so John Roberts did not follow the constitution.

All the liberals loved John Roberts for forcing this unjust law onto
the backs of hard working americans. The majority of which opposed the law.

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Like most liberals your applaud the Supreme Court when they decide in your favor.

You criticize them when decide against you.


Actually, this is how all people work. Conservatives would do the exact same. It is called political opinions.

Bell and Sheppard are not hypocrites because they do not have the same political opinion as you. Both have always been very open in their political opinions.

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I was a huge KB fan. Then I actually worked with her on Big Miracle (formerly Everybody Loves Whales.) She isn't just vapid, she's beyond vapid. Her charitable posts on Twitter regarding The Water Project among others, were all from the hands of her assistant, who was constantly on her heels being barked at. When not on set, she was exclusively hanging out with Krasinski, to the point most on the set began joking "isn't she married?"
I still love VM as a series and character, but it was sobering to discover just how separated from art the real KB is.

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does not surprise me in the least. I've listened to some of her commentary tracks and came to a similar conclusion.

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by johnnycashak ยป Wed Jan 28 2015 12:51:59

I was a huge KB fan. Then I actually worked with her on Big Miracle (formerly Everybody Loves Whales.) She isn't just vapid, she's beyond vapid. Her charitable posts on Twitter regarding The Water Project among others, were all from the hands of her assistant, who was constantly on her heels being barked at. When not on set, she was exclusively hanging out with Krasinski, to the point most on the set began joking "isn't she married?"
I still love VM as a series and character, but it was sobering to discover just how separated from art the real KB is.
Even though I like Veronica Mars (the show, not the movie), I don't find what you're saying too hard to believe. I was watching the show's blooper reel, and I kind of noticed that she's "that type." She's the type who says, "Don't hit girls! Girls can hit you." Also, there's a character called Sorokin in season 3, and she kept messing up the pronunciation of his name. She went, "What kind of a stupid name is 'Sorokin', anyway? Well, 'Anna' is also a Russian name, but that's not WEIRD." When she said that, I was kind of shocked, because it kind of showed her ignorance. I wonder if she realizes the world doesn't revolve around the USA for international names to fit what an American would consider "non-weird"? I know it's a small thing, but it's her display of ignorance that really bothered me.

Also, she's married to Dax Shepard. The dude's obnoxious. At first I was surprised she liked the guy, but this was before when I thought "Veronica Mars" WAS Kristen Bell. Now that I can kind of see how she really is, it's not so surprising that they're together.

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Remember to take posts with a grain of salt. Most people don't kiss and tell. Some have an axe to grind that might not be apparent. Many also don't realize the long and odd hours and amount of work that goes on while filming and how hectic it can be around a set. Keep that in mind no matter who you see posts about.

I don't want to say anything at all, but I'll just say a touch and say that she struck me RATHER differently than this poster makes her out to be.

edit:(and I've directly seen her demonstrate first hand knowledge about her posts regarding charities/causes so it isn't all just handlers while she is oblivious to it all)

Anyway, bye, said too much already.

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You make a fair point and I'll cede that to you, but in all honesty I have no axe to grind with her in the slightest so there is really no reason to NOT believe my first hand account either. To the contrary, when I was hired on to work so intimately with the stars, I was thrilled she would be one of them because I was a huge VM fan. Krasinski was a joy, always in a good mood even at ungodly hours of the cold morning, and Barrymore wasn't as warm but was as professional at all times as any professional I've ever dealt with in any field. I can understand why she gets so many roles every year regardless of her box office draw, because the woman is a worker and doesn't sweat the small stuff. Danson was this eclectic mix of young boy and polished gentleman. While all the other actors rented smaller fuel efficient vehicles on their off time, Ted got the biggest suburban the rental agency had and that man flat out drove all over the state, from Fairbanks to Homer and all points in between he had time or inclination to visit.
KB, on the other hand... where to begin? No one in the crew spoke directly to her after the first day, they spoke to her assistant. She lost her temper and threw a fit at one point because of the way chairs were arranged in a conference room where cast and crew were set to discuss the location shoots in Bush alaska (term we use for the cold interior and high northern areas where most native villages are located) and what would be involved in transport, accommodations etc. The crew had just finished getting things set up, and this was rapidly approaching 2am after a long day of shooting downtown in the cold along the port (where most of the whale in the ice shots came from) and her assistant walks in with phone in hand, takes a photo of the room, and is blasted over said phone by KB a few moments later. The assistant then proceeds to blast the crew regarding the chair arrangement until finally they relent and redo things the way she demands. Keep in mind these were all local guys, not union and therefor basically unable to tell them both where to stick it. That was one example, of many. After the first week, the crew had their favorite stars, and it's no secret that she wasn't anyone's that I was aware of.

As for your points about her posts, you're right about that, in as much as she dictates what she wants to say to her assistant in general, but that's it. I've been lucky enough to work on several non-profit projects over the years with many celebrities of one kind or another, from Casper Van Dien to Doctor Ruth, and of all of them, she struck me as the least involved with something she tried to make so much social hay out of than any of them. As you say, take all of this with a grain of sand as I am an unknown quantity and lord knows what love may be lost between her and I for whatever reason, but again, in simple honesty, I am only relaying my personal experiences and observations with no dog in the fight either way. Nothing more, nothing less.

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So stick to watching Jon Voight, Kelsey Grammar and Patricia Heaton projects only. Thanks, and good bye.

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Tell me more! I had no idea she is like this in real life. I wonder if her husband is different. He seems like a more goofy, easy going type.

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Why do so many people not know what words mean? Hypocrite doesn't mean "thinks differently than I do". Even if they were wrong that doesn't = Hypocrite.

To Love and win is the best thing. To Love and lose, the next best.

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"As with all liberals they have their facts wrong."

So every single liberal, has every single fact wrong.
That sounds logical.
suuuure

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The modern liberal is an annoying, hypocritical creature that is best avoided. They follow the Left's doctrines without questioning them. These people are really Progressives, Socialists, Communists and Fascists. These are not the Classic liberals of 100 years ago. If the country allowed Obama and his ilk to take over, we would be in a very sorry state very quickly. We are already in a terrible state with Obamacare and the gun-control laws and war on women nonsense. What you need to understand is that 99.9% (or something like that) of Hollywood and showbiz in general are Lefties. Especially on the 2 coasts. They may not like a certain politican or policy but will always support the Left's agenda: gay marriage, angry feminism, welfare, gun control, weak military and the like. If you want to avoid and not support the Left in Hollywood, you'll have to stop watching most films and TV shows. There are only a handful of Conservative actors/directors. I try to only support them. I'll still watch movies but I won't pay for movie tickets or say anything supportive about known liberals in public. You're absolutely correct about the idiocy and hypocrisy of the elite Hollywood set. You can include the mainstream media and many schools in that list. I have no problem with true liberalism. It was an important movement that helped create child welfare laws, gave voting rights to everyone and ushered in an enlightenment era. The people calling themselves liberals today are nothing more than Obama and Clinton drones and idiots like Occupy Wallstreet and the Al Gore supporters.

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You do realize that the Communists and Fascists were mortal enemies right? I love how the whole Beck/Limbaugh set always parades a bunch of "ists" and seems to think they are all tied together somehow.

A terrible state from gun control laws?? We have guns here than just about in any other Western country. Who exactly is this person who has been deprived of a gun here?

If Obama is so weak then how come he said he'd be willing to go into Pakistan without first warning them while his opponents said they'd first inform Pakistan? He has also launched more drone strikes than all other U.S. Presidents combined. In fact, it's the far lefties who are actually upset with him, if anyone.

And I thought the whole tired old Rove political games about how liberals are somehow unpatriotic and don't care about the safety of the U.S. or values or whatnot nonsense had already been put to pasture. I think you are a few years behind.

And where did the whole "if you are not with me, you are against me [and unpatriotic]" thing get us? Into a disaster of a war? Ironically, before the second Iraq War there wasn't anyone in the territory of Iraq of any threat to our homeland and now, NOW there actually is aQ over there plus ISIS now too. Great.

Oh and wasn't it Cheney who kept ignoring the CIA urgent memos that UBL was probably going to strike the U.S. in some major way soon?

And Cheney who made up tall tales to get the Iraq War going and made it known what the CIA should report back to the WH?

And who was it exactly who outed an active CIA field operative as political revenge? Wasn't that a Republican WH? Oh and it also led to the death of an informant and his wife and little kids to boot. Nice. Yeah now that is being a real patriot, commit treason and out our own secret agents. Great.

And sure it's not enough like 99% of the old-growth has been cut down, but heaven forbid the environmentalists want to save the last scraps left. What nuts those tree-huggers, they just want to save 90-100% of it all! Yeah, it all being 90-00% of a fraction of a percent left untouched. (And BTW, almost every such National Forest sale loses money. You talk about welfare, but seem to have no trouble with the corporate kind. Billions of tax payers money went to unsustainable cut and run over the last 50 years and that's just one tiny piece of the pie.). Red States tax in more tax money than Blue States too.

Why care about gay marriage? You are not gay. I am not gay. What the heck does it have to do with us? Are we being forced into gay marriage? No. Who cares what someone else does? It's only fair. Why should two people be denied the right that everyone else has just because they were born with a different orientation? I thought you conservatives believe about getting the government out of people's business, no? People used to insist it was fine that blacks had to use a separate water fountain too. You want to go back to that too?

And yeah heaven forbid some poor sap doesn't get denied coverage for a pre-existing condition or whatnot, yeah, the downfall of the U.S.!!

Gosh.

(and yeah some of the P.C. stuff and all has gotten out of control, all the "safe zones" near English classrooms in case a student reads a book where some guy said to have glanced at a female the wrong way and they can't handle such a shocking thing and so on are getting to be a bit much, but guess what, most liberals aren't for that extreme stuff either and most of the liberal college professors were outraged by such stuff)

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Oh and wasn't it Cheney who kept ignoring the CIA urgent memos that UBL was probably going to strike the U.S. in some major way soon?

And wasn't it Bill Clinton that had the opportunity to kill UBL in the late 90's ?
He didn't did he ?

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The modern liberal is an annoying, hypocritical creature that is best avoided.


It's really not helpful to create generic description of a group of people whose political beliefs you do not share and paint them all with one broad brush. 'All liberals' are like this or 'all conservatives like that' are untrue statements. I have liberal friends and conservative friends. I have found many good people among both groups of people.

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If you don't like her political opinions - then stop watching her.

Go watch Republican actors and actresses.

http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/top-hollywood-republican-celebrities/2015/02/10/id/623957/

Oh - what is it you say? There are not many conservative Hollywood stars?

I wonder why.

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