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So SICK of HOLOCAUST movies.


Any body else tired of this abused over-done topic?

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Yes. Yes, I am.

To be sure, there have been many great films about this chapter of history. But I'd like to see some of the other chapters explored too. Not to mention, other parts of the world and the people who live and die there. Cary Fukunaga's Beasts Of No Nation looks ten times more interesting to me than Phoenix.

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I am sick of movies with poorly written dialogue, endless CGI, and flat characters. It is very simple, I don’t watch those and I don’t go to their boards to pique those who do.

Significant point here; Phoenix is not a Holocaust movie; please consider the years it covers. How many camp scenes do you remember? How many death marches? How many evacuations to the ghetto? The correct answer is zero.

This movie was set in the immediate aftermath of the war, which is not previously well explored territory. This movie addressed a survivor coming home to a world who chose to live with amnesia.

We saw the juxtaposition of someone who wanted nothing more than have her old life back at odds with a friend who wanted to rid herself of her homeland forever in favor of Palestine. Lena’s speech about her animosity toward fellow Jews for returning to forgive their killers and thanking their countrymen for turning off the gas was very powerful.

For two generations Germany was run by people who either participated in the Jewish slaughter or did nothing while it happened. Most Nazis were never prosecuted, who do you think the successful doctors, attorneys, teachers, policeman were?

Proponents of the final solution did not just evaporate after the war was over. Both times Nelly was shown photos of herself in groups; she was taken aback when she realized her old friends were Nazis. People had to live in that moral quagmire, and there are very few movies that actually address the aftermath. The Reader was another novel \ movie that was set in the post war years.


For mileshoward:

For whatever my opinion is worth, I would recommend The Last King of Scotland (Uganda), Hotel Rwanda , The Killing Fields (Cambodia), Twelve Years A Slave (US), Burnt by the Sun(USSR)– the latter isn’t set during the height of the Soviet purges, but it takes place just as they are escalating.

I agree, Beasts of No Nation looks promising too, in the same vein as LKOS. Over the summer, I have just now gotten into The Wire, and I am looking forward to seeing Idris Elba in this.

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As already mentioned, Phoenix doesn't take place in a concentration camp, and the Holocaust was merely a backdrop.

I have a few reasons why it's important that these types of movies are STILL being made; considering there are still some people out there who want to rewrite history and claim the Holocaust never even happened, I'm glad there's still the occasional film being released even now, to remind us all that the Holocaust was in fact real. Also, some younger people are more likely to see a new movie over an older movie made even 10 years ago. Lastly, filmmakers have been very creative of late, showing other sides of the Holocaust, such as Sarah's Key, which looked at France's role in the atrocities committed during that time.

What an odd topic, though. If you don't want to see another movie about the Holocaust, just don't watch it. I mean, that's like me complaining about the number of 'rom-com' movies being released- that's my least favorite genre, but I hardly expect Hollywood and other studios to quit making them- I just choose to avoid them. And how many "Holocaust" movies are made compared to 'rom-coms?'

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How many camp scenes do you remember?...


For sure edisonoside can't remember any for the simple reason that he didn't see the movie.

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What kinda films shall they make? Suggestions?

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There aren't enough movies about tigers or movies with tigers as the main characters. I think they should make fewer holocaust movies and more movies about tigers.

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There's actually quite a few documentaries on them.

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Over-done? Compared to what?

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Unfortunately, topics such as this will always have people who are interested in them, and movies about such topics as these will always be made.

If you don't like movies made about The Holocaust, its survivors etc., then of course there is the option to just not see those films  

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Phoenix is part mélo, part noir. The Holocaust setting adds to his poignancy and allows a very interesting interpretation, but it is in no way your standard war drama. And, in any case, the only issue one might possibly have with new movies on this subject should be about their quality and sincerity, since their importance will always be without question.

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It must be horrible, being forced to watch films you know you'll hate.

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So what the hell are you doing on this board? 



Phoenix: 8.5
Diary of a Teenage Girl: 7

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Then don't watch them. Who is forcing you to? It's like saying you're tired of superhero movies or action movies. Then stay home and don't give them your money.

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