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one more plot problem


This show featured some great scenery and some interesting characters, but the script sure has problems. In addition to other ones mentioned on this board:

When the Count went after Bill out in the wilderness, it is not really consistent with the rest of the plot. Throughout the show the Count is primarily interested in controlling commerce in Dawson, not seizing Bill's gold. Then after Bill leaves town, the Count and a few of his thugs abruptly switch gears and take off after Bill, a journey which ultimately results in the Count's death.

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When the Count went after Bill out in the wilderness, it is not really consistent with the rest of the plot. Throughout the show the Count is primarily interested in controlling commerce in Dawson, not seizing Bill's gold. Then after Bill leaves town, the Count and a few of his thugs abruptly switch gears and take off after Bill, a journey which ultimately results in the Count's death


It makes complete sense. There were food & supply shortages in Dawson and all the residents were getting desperate. Belinda sold all but 1 of her properties to the count for $6000 in cash because she had a lot of outstanding notes (debt) on everything she owned and needed money to start the hotel. The count didn't have much more cash than that $6000, but he wanted to control the land and the town so he paid most of his cash to buy out Belinda. When the count became the new owner of the mill and the dry good store, which were Belinda's primary money making properties, the cash flow dried up because there weren't any supplies to sell to the townspeople (the weather made it impossible to receive new supplies until the spring) and Belinda somehow kept the customers away from the mill (I wasn't clear on how she did that). The count didn't have any cash flow from his new properties, but needed money to pay his henchmen who were becoming restless and dangerous. The count was desperate for money so he went after Bill's gold and was going to leave him in the wilderness to freeze to death so he could eventually take his claim. The count thought he controlled everyone through fear, but he didn't anticipate that his henchmen would turn on him and leave him in the wilderness to die along with Bill.

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I agree with this and I would add that the Count was becoming increasingly unstable, which was shown when he shot the guy in front of Belinda. It was gold at any cost and the cost turned out to be his life.

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Sure, a viewer can certainly add analyses to the plot--much of it psychological commentary--to try to make it all fit together. That is certainly your prerogative. My point, though, is that the movie itself did not do the job.

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Sure, a viewer can certainly add analyses to the plot--much of it psychological commentary--to try to make it all fit together. That is certainly your prerogative. My point, though, is that the movie itself did not do the job.


Did you sleep through it? The events I mentioned actually happened on screen. They didn't need to be inferred or “analyzed” into existence.

The scene of Bill standing in front of the dry goods store looking at the few overpriced food items left in the window showed that supplies in the town were dangerously low. The count eating steak with Sundown watching him like he hadn’t eaten in days and Sundown says, “Eating like that in front of your men might come across as calloused.” The other man saying, “We’re waiting on our wages sir. Tell him we ain’t playin, Sundown. If you don’t, I will. Put some money in our hands right now or we’re going to have a problem.” Then the count stabs him brutally, and says to the other men, “We’re all hungry we’re all cold, this is something only money can fix. We’re surrounded by it in the mines. Men are just yanking it randomly out of the ground, men like Bill Haskel. I suggest we go pay him and his mine a little visit.” Did you miss that scene?

Belinda goes to the count and says she only cares about building the hotel and is willing to sell any one of her properties on Front Street to him for $6000 The count wants all of her properties for $6000 and she agrees. When she meets him at the saloon he offers her $2000, but she insists on the whole $6000, then figures out that he doesn’t have much cash. The count tells his man to go get the $6000 and the man tells him, “The cash in the bag is a big chunk of your money.” But he gives it to Belinda anyway. So he’s clearly low on cash and desperate for more, which is why he goes after Bill.

Do I need to go on? Everything I mentioned in my original post was in the series. It was all there in the dialog and scenes if you paid attention.

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You are mostly correct other than the fact that Belinda never sold her mill to the count because it wasn't on Front Street. The count had already started his own mill to compete with Belinda. That is how she was able to prevent the count's mill from making any money by offering credit to customers of her own. Plus Belinda would never sell her mill; she needed it to build her hotel.

One more thing, Belinda wasn't selling because she was in debt (or had "notes" as you put it); you can't sell properties you owe money on. She sold because she needed cash to pay her employees long enough to get the hotel operational.

Also, don't defend yourself when someone makes ignorant claims.


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Sure, a viewer can certainly add analyses to the plot--much of it psychological commentary--to try to make it all fit together. That is certainly your prerogative. My point, though, is that the movie itself did not do the job.

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Sure, a viewer can certainly add analyses to the plot--much of it psychological commentary--to try to make it all fit together. That is certainly your prerogative. My point, though, is that the movie itself did not do the job.


This show seems to be completely beyond your understanding. The count's motivation for going after Bill was clearly spelled out. In fact, it was practically spoon fed to viewers like pablum. Unfortunately, I can't help you if you're too lazy to pay attention to what actually happened on your TV screen.

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I admit the show had problems but the one you are having a problem with was very clearly explained in the show. It made perfect sense for him to go after Bill.

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OP, this bothered me also. The Count had no interest at all in Bill or his gold up until for some random reason he decides to switch for it. This made no sense and ruined the plot badly. The Count was a stupid character anyways though that could have been arrested right at the start since there were tons of mounties all in the town after yelling death threats to the priest, then later on executing someone. Pretty bad series and only worth a watch through once.

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It was not random. As has been clearly stated here the count had perfect reasons to care about Bills gold. The show could not have made it any clearer why Count needed Bills gold. If you payed attention to the show you would have understood that perfectly fine. Maybe in your case it's actually worth a second watch because you seemed to have missed some pretty obvious stuff.

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also in real life 1898 dawson, there were hundreds of NWMP there during the gold rush there was virtually no theft or murder at all. But in this stupid series people were dropping like flies from people getting shot.

Also they didn't allow any guns in town, but in this series everyone was running around with guns inside town. The writters of this series should have done more research, i found this out in a few minutes online.

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This was a TV show, of course they would spice it up and do stuff that wasn't correct with the times. This wasn't a documentary. The writers more than likely knew all that but took creative licence to it to make it more interesting, something most if not all tv shows and movies about history do.

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