Great film, but morally bankrupt animal cruelty

It made it more real though.

More real = more better.

My thoughts EXACTLY! The film overall was beautiful, but I was utterly appalled by the unnecessary animal abuse, and I find this practice disgusting. There is no excuse to hurt creatures that are weaker than us, and of course do not have a choice in the matter, just for the sake of "art". In fact, it is - in my opinion - the exact opposite of what art should be about.

Oh cry me a river you tree hugging pansies.

That horse would have looked good on my plate

Are you a vegan? If not then you are a hypocrite. Go hug a goddamn tree.

And the rabbit? What? that was nothing like the horse scene, it was a freaking prop for gods sake

It boggles the mind. How can so many people be so stupid and so overly polictally correct that they somehow feel they can talk down to anyone who disagrees. Because THEY have the moral high ground. Riiiiight

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I respectfully disagree. Those scenes you saw at the scene are just a reflection of everyday life in that region and probably in a lot of places throughout the world.

And the irony you create is; art (I dont like the word art to describe a movie but for the sake of the argument, lets not dwell on it) movies with animal cruelty increases awareness for animal cruelty As Winter Sleep did for me. Thousands who watched the movie are now aware how horses are treated in order to tame them. That was a powerful scene with a powerul message. It has to look real and best way to do it is to make it real. Let me give an example although its not directly related to the content but I think you'll get what I mean.

Porn industry in the last decade normalized "rape" "humiliation of woman". When people see those scenes it doesn't (mostly) disturb them because you know its an actor acting. This kind of porn scenes normalizes rape in peoples mind in a deep level.

Cinema is a powerful tool to increase awareness and when you make something very close to real you can increase awareness or at least disturb the people watching. It should be a disturbing to watch a rape scene, wouldn't you agree? The movie "I saw the devil" does this perfectly. In a similar way, "A short movie about killing" does the same thing for murder.

Now, "a real sentient being" was not strangled for no reason other than the making of a film. That scene was made to (I'm assuming ofc, I'm not a friend of NBC) increase awareness to animal cruelty. Even if the director didn't have a purpose like this, he's responsible for delivering the everyday life of the people living in a Turkish town. This alone should be enough.

I'm not gonna talk about the rabbit scene a lot, I've now realized I got a little carried away with the subject and I'm at the point where most people stopped reading. I'm just gonna say, rabbits are hunted and then eaten all around the world. Film crew might have eaten that rabbit also. Thousands of rabbits are being shot everyday and the most powerful way to increase awareness is to kill one. Simple as that.

Although I personally don't advocate being a vegan. I've simply just tried to find a defend the scenes to a vegan. Although internet proved years ago that no one can change each others opinion in these forums. Ironically cinema is strong enough to do just that!

Respect to the OP. He knew he'd be ridiculed for speaking up on a matter which most people don't care about, but he did it anyway because it was the right thing to do. Any kind of violence or trauma afflicted on an animal or human for entertainment is illegal in the first world, so if you disagree, you know where you belong.

I loved the movie but I was disappointed that the cruelty scenes were not fake.
I think the Turkish professor was right in suing the director.

No doubt the same folks who get morally outraged when one innocent animal is abused for a movie, and cry "We have to do something about this!", are the first ones to holler "It's someone else's problem, not mine. Hell no, I won't go!" when the barbarians in the middle east are crucifying, beheading, butchering, and burning alive innocent children and women on a daily basis....by the hundreds.

Let's hear it for the rabbits and horses and to blazes with the middle school kids who are beheaded for watching a soccer game. Nothing like being touchy and feely for the animals, is there?