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Is Betrayal Being Renewed?


This was my favorite show of the season. I hope it's being renewed! I saw a couple articles that indicated that it was ending. Anyone know for sure?

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Still waiting for 'official' word.

Here All One Needs Is A Pair Of Fangs
Come Out Come Out Wherever You Are
-Lestat de Lioncourt

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I can't believe it's still "on the bubble". There's still hope!

Although hannah ware has taken on another role... Was that going to be a series or...?

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Its officially canceled, according to tvbythenumbers

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Yeah... I just saw that. Well, darn!

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Thank God! I hardly think anyone would want to see TV's worst main character flounce around and whine over these two men anymore!

Justice prevails!

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Oh please, I would whine over them forever. When you have to make a choice like that - yeah you either take them both or whine as to which one you want.

Lust prevails!


Here All One Needs Is A Pair Of Fangs
Come Out Come Out Wherever You Are
-Lestat de Lioncourt

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TPTB should have went to Lifetime first. A S2 would have happened. Cable should have been the first choice. The show was a GP of mine.

Clark's destiny = Superman, LL & LL.

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Nope.
Cancelled.
Yesssssss!!!!!
So let's fast forward say 5 years into the future.
Our hero, the I can't get a job unless I am a fixer guy is now flipping burgers at a McDonald's in Chicago. He has quickly moved up from the fries department and is considered a prime candidate for lower management. So far his kids have disowned him, partially because our Heroine has tried to hard to be their friend including doing drugs with the son. Having discovered method and with little or none of her teeth left our favorite adultress has taken to the street selling herself on the street corner. But remember they are happy. Her photography equipment has been long sold to supply her habit because as we know the fixer is really lacking in the basic skills department.

Meanwhile Drew is successfully running for state attorney and is considered a shoe in. Having remarried Drew is extremely happy. His kids live his new wife and momma is all but forgotten. Everyone else is in jail or dead.

Well we learned that two people who have no chemistry and are forced to be together by their bad reasoning do not a great couple make.

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Well we learned that two people who have no chemistry and are forced to be together by their bad reasoning do not a great couple make.


I like your synopsis. ABC should hire you as a writer - at least they'd get the Breaking Bad audience to pay their bills.

Cheers!

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Nope. But I will run it down for ya.
The cheating wife ends up with STD.
The mafia lawyer gets arrested in a opium den.
And the husband moves on and marries a nice loyal woman who is not such a blatant shut and is decease free.

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And then the politics as usual song and dance in D.C. starts to get to Drew. He is now a raging alcoholic and his life becomes so mundane having to divide his time between Chi town and Washington because his neglected second wife complains he's never home and when he is he's really not if you know what I mean. So the promising and polished "come back kid" Drew Stafford gets caught being serviced in the back of a limo by the Washington paparazzi with one of his "regulars" who by the way still has all her teeth haha that his personal assistant arranges once a week for him while June Cleaver Stafford sits back at home in their ritzy Chicago home on the waterfront rearing her adoring step son Oliver and her two biological twins Henry and Olivia smoking cigarettes like a fein lol! When the wife gets wind of the scandal, because you know they say wives are always the last to know everything, she fires the entire house staff and takes Drew to the cleaners but leaves him at least one power suit lmao! Sorry, but after that awful synopsis of Sara and Jack I just had to remind you that even goody two shoes Drew isn't all that





"What we have here is a failure to communicate"

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Kwrwolf:

Despite this thread bordering on the bizarre it is the only means to speculate and achieve some measure of closure due to the lack of S.2 and a very vague and meaningless "cliff hanger" at the end of S.1.

Throughout S.1 I (and many others - I think you too?) considered Drew an overall good guy, perhaps overly keen on his job AND he did blowoff a coffee date and returned the bunny tie!

I assume that you are speculating on Drew, the "politician" vs the "ADA/ Prosecutor" if there was a S.2? That would make a nice dramatic shift AND support the impression about Washington politics, where Drew realizes that there is an unlimited supply of young female interns whose role model is Monica Lewinski - so what is a boy to do? After all isn't politics about getting away with something, not necessarily about doing the right thing?

And of course I standby my earlier opinion that Sara is the apparent devoted wife but by night is a high-end Washington call-girl - her role model is Suzy Favor-Hamilton! Sorry, but her past behavior is indicative of future behavior - her new "job" is just more lucrative and much more exciting than taking photos!

What about Jack? I think that just before Drew left his post as an ADA for his political career he discovered that Jack withheld critical information and testimony, which nullified his immunity deal! Prosecuted for his numerous criminal activities, both as a perpetrator and an accessory, he was convicted and handed a 20-year prison sentence.

The good news is that he is in the same facility as his son! Now he can be the attentive father and the role model that he failed at before.

More good news - being so good looking he was an instant hit with the inmates but is now "exclusive" with "Bubba" - a 300 lb tattooed serial killer. BTW Jack looks real nice with eye shadow and red lipstick! Can't have Jack not getting any post-Sara!

Good to hear from you!

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Hey Chevy, good to hear from you too. How did I know my reply would garner a response from you? I'm clairvoyant I guess lol! Still on that crucify Jack and Sara trip while defending good ol clean cut Drew. I do remember our looooong conversations and monopolization of the threads way back 😃

But see, Drew let his job take precedent over his marriage, mistakes many men do in their professions. Still no reason for Sara to stray and I stand by my opinion that people deserve a second chance and I do believe Drew sensed for the first time in his married life he could lose Sara even without the cheating scandal. Haha good line about Jack co-habitating with his son Vic but not so good an opinion on Suzy Flavor Hamilton aka Sara Hanley. She's a adulterer but never a hooker. Sorry but her past behavior is not indicative of her actions. If that were the case than half the woman in this country would have hooker aliases. Now Drew I could definitely believe and I don't want to because I like the guy and felt he was owed more from Sara but he's the type of an A personality man to let success go to his head and I would bet money he would cheat before Sara ever traded her Cannon SLR digital with high power zoom for a pair of nine inch red stilettos 😃

Sorry but Drew's past actions are more indicative of him being a repeat offender.

I can't eat, I can't sleep, all I can think about is this case.


Drew Stafford, episode #3 Betrayal

Salut





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Kwrwolf:

Yeah I couldn't resist the opportunity to vilify Sara again. As far as Jack goes he is a criminal and should be in prison not loose on the street and pragmatically I don't really blame him for the affair - that is at least 99% on Sara - Jack is a dog that should have been told to "get lost" by her.

I do agree that Drew is not a saint but he didn't deserve the treatment handed to him by Sara whatsoever. AND if you recall from the threads waaay back I always maintained that for Drew to take Sara back he would have to be a Saint or simply a cuckold and we both agree that he is NOT the former!

Again, I disagree with his decision to take Sara back because she expressed no real remorse, nor did she do anything positive to "save her marriage" after the affair as she carried on LIVING with Jack in her studio and then into his new apartment. IMO any spouse who WANTS to reconcile with a spouse should take the advantage of the opportunity with the "break" to reflect on the situation and TRY to reconnect with the spouse - not carry on with the affair that caused the problem in the first place?

The only apparent reason that Sara and Drew got "back together" was because Jack felt badly about his son trying to kill her and he already got what he wanted from her - uncomplicated" sex with a married hottie!

I do agree that Drew's past behavior (over-committed to work) will catch up with him again (whether with Sara or a "June Cleaver") - but I don't really think that he would cheat (I could be wrong). HOWEVER, Sara is morally bereft and if she isn't a hooker she will cheat again with a Jack look-alike if Jack continues to reject her.

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^^

Yeah I couldn't resist the opportunity to vilify Sara again.


Chevy, it would be shocking if you hadn't 😃

Jack is a dog that should have been told to "get lost" by her
Couldn't agree with you more.

Not to sound so mundane on the issue that we practically talked to death but I do believe she did show remorse. No one sheds tears and shows emotion if they are not remorseful for their actions. Where you and I are at an impasse is how much remorse did she need to exhibit to be believable and forgiven? Is there such a level? Perhaps but maybe you missed what exactly Sara and Drew were both feeling. After the affair was found out neither one made a move to save the marriage until two episodes later. That scene in the living room left them both torn, saddened and facing the truth. You seem to have forgotten that Sara wasn't the one to want to reconcile so why should she move back home when divorcing Drew was now an option? That's totally sending mixed signals. Reconciling with Drew was not what she wanted to talk to him about. Now...I would not have continued living with Jack but if I'm planning on divorcing my husband I'm surely not going to end my relationship with the man I'm supposedly in love with and who I choose to be with.

Drew, in episode #8 was the one to ask for a second chance after realizing he did in fact let his job come first. Sara told him as gently as she could-that her feelings for Jack were not casual. What did you want her to say that she hadn't already said to him in the living room two episodes prior? A person who's NOT remorseful for their behavior would have just told Drew-I'm sorry, I do love you but not the way I used to. Jack makes me feel loved, like I matter in life and that no matter how busy we are in our lives he still makes the time for us and he respects my profession something you never did Drew but all who watched the show know she didn't say that or "throw" it back in his face. Honestly if you want the wind let out of your sails politely, she did just that when she rebuffed his attempt.

Part of being human is to forgive and that's what so good about someone's character. Drew is a good man and my opinion of him will never change but he's predisposed to take a woman he loves with all his heart for granted. He seeks power and control, not necessarily that kind of control in his marriage but I think you know what I mean, at least I hope. I do think they will have issues of trust and the occasional dust up as Drew grows in popularity with his constituents. Sara needs to reflect on when she took her vow for better or worse that this is exactly what us meant. Something she failed herself to do with Drew in the beginning.

Sara is a good woman much to your chagrin lol. She's a good mother, again much to your chagrin. The child was most important to her and her having an affair does not change anything in the fact that she is a good mother to Oliver. I honestly feel you're jaded when it comes to the character of Sara Handley because of what happened to your buddy's marriage. Totally different women from what you shared about your buddy's ex. Can't compare the two cases.

The only apparent reason that Sara and Drew got "back together" was because Jack felt badly about his son trying to kill her and he already got what he wanted from her - uncomplicated sex with a married hottie!


Typical male response lol! No I'm sorry, as usual we disagree but only part of what you said is true though. Sara loves Drew, right up until the very end and vice versa. Jack had to be the one to tell her out in the open after work one night because she was just out if it I guess not knowing where she stood with Drew after he told her the truth Neither one of us can trust what were feeling right now.
(scene where they watch Oliver sleep and she asks subtlety for a second chance) Living at home recuperating for all those months should have it made it easier for Sara & Drew on the path to reconciliation but as she told Nate they both weren't sure what was going to happen if Drew won his election. I guess that they were not in counseling but just co-habitating reflecting to themselves not each other what went wrong. Some people need direction and guidance in their lives when tragedies like these happen and as a viewer of Betrayal every Sunday evening and seeing that little tid bit of Sara's back story, it's no surprise that she needed something in concrete from Drew- Are we or aren't we moving to D.C. If you win? not something so vague like Have you ever seen the cherry blossoms in bloom in the spring?

And that's my two cents worth 😃







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Kwrwolf:

As usual a very well-written response (rebuttal) with much more supporting detail than this old guy can remember. Although we don't always agree I do admire your reasoned and persuasive posts - makes for good d debate!

I THINK we are closer to agreement than not? My previous post centered on "remorse", which is more connotative than definitive in the context of human interaction. Because "remorse" is so subjective every person has a different opinion about it - for some a simple apology is sufficient; others may expect an open letter in the Chicago Tribune admitting to her mistake and how foolish she was, etc, etc. AND don't forget that remorse is also gender influenced - I won't even try to speak from a woman's perspective, but from a guy's view what she did was REALLY OFFSIDE! I don't know if there are ANY words or actions that could mitigate her affair?

You are correct - her initial reaction was tears and sadness, which you point out is remorse; but me (and many male posters) interpreted that "remorse" to be more about surprise/ embarrassment at getting caught? Because who starts an affair EXPECTING to get caught? Noone, that is why it is called betrayal with the associated deception and lies to AVOID ever getting caught.

But, claiming that she "loves Drew" but carrying on the affair with Jack indicates to me that she loves Jack significantly more (i.e. 75% Jack/ 25 % Drew). I still believe that if she was truly remorseful about the wreckage she left behind by risking her marriage, disrespecting Drew, her son and others to the extent that she wanted to fix things and save her marriage, continuing the affair with Jack is not a very positive step.

If Sara was less selfish and thought for a minute how egregious her affair was - a criminal that her husband was trying to prosecute! A "reasonable person" would expect that a serious "time-out" is warranted for BOTH to process what just happened and re-evaluate a bunch of things.

But because Sara DIDN'T do that (right back in the sack with Jack) tells me that she really wasn't interested or motivated to give Drew some time and/or for her to think about her relationship with hubby WITHOUT the distraction of her lover.

All to say that my (and other mostly male posters) analysis is that she had NO REMORSE about having the affair - ACTION: continuing the affair; WORDS: "It's not casual" (I prefer Jack to you)/ "I'm just an accessory" (Drew is to blame). The latter is so bizarre because what was she to Jack? He never told her that he loved her (but in his mind he loved boinking her - lol). A few tears and saying sorry (which she acknowledged was lame or weak) is not really remorse. Again, IF she was motivated to TRY and salvage the marriage and her family she should have at least told Jack "I need some time to figure things out about MY life and what I need - I'll let you know but we can't see each other until then" (words to that effect).

-I'm sorry, I do love you but not the way I used to. Jack makes me feel loved, like I matter in life and that no matter how busy we are in our lives he still makes the time for us and he respects my profession something you never did Drew


Your above interpretation is spot-on as it really does underlines in words what Sara is doing - unfortunately the writers didn't have your insight to have her say that - as you point Drew had to "do the math" himself and felt he had no option but to dissolve the marriage - Sara was far from meeting him half-way to effect a reconciliation or resolution. The "unsaid speech" captures what I (and many male posters) hope and expected was that Drew would kick her to the curb WITHOUT any remorse on his part - she "dun him wrong" and there's no turning back.

Sadly, it didn't happen and I was sooo disappointed. My line of thinking for a S.2 would be Sara and Jack living together (maybe married) and then her finding out that Jack is not so great and gets another perspective of what being "an accessory" really was - maybe Drew wasn't so bad after all, especially if Jack stepped out on her (i.e. now in S.2 Sara is BETRAYED)?

HOWEVER, I fully acknowledge and honestly admire your "heart on sleeve" personality and that you consider a happy ending to be a couple staying together. But not all relationships can be that way and IF Sara is not a hooker at the end of S.1 and D/S are together I would give them max 1-2 years before mistrust, acrimony, accusations/ reminders, etc would result in a divorce anyway - whether Drew was in politics or not - in reality the press and opponents would have a field day constantly bringing up Drew's wife having an affair with a criminal that turned state's evidence for immunity - NO marriage and/or political career could withstand that!

Some people need direction and guidance in their lives when tragedies like these happen and as a viewer of Betrayal every Sunday evening and seeing that little tid bit of Sara's back story, it's no surprise that she needed something in concrete from Drew- Are we or aren't we moving to D.C. If you win? not something so vague like Have you ever seen the cherry blossoms in bloom in the spring?


Just suggesting that Drew's obtuse response was his (lame) attempt at being more sensitive and "romantic" to be more in touch emotionally instead of saying: "Yes we are moving to Washington - pack your suitcase - house hunting trip starts tomorrow - any questions"?

I do enjoy our "dances" but with your better memory you can more easily corner me with facts and quotes - be gentle and don't step on my feet - OK?

BTW - "Cool Hand Luke" is a classic and that line is awesome!

My $0.05 worth (Canada got rid of the penny and we round to 5 cents - just so you know)! Cheers!

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