I bet any UFC fighter
Would not even get a hit on Bruce Lee. Well except when he blocks their attacks.
shareShows what you know about fighting. A blocked strike isn't considered a hit.
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Seeing as how Bruce Lee was an actor and street fighter, I'm pretty sure any trained professional who competed would wipe the floor with him, especially by today standards of mixed martial arts.
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Look man, everyone is a Bruce Lee fan growing up. But that is then and this is now. It's time to grow up. Bruce Lee known as this superhuman invincible fighter is a famed myth. He is an ACTOR and a STREET FIGHTER. He has never competed on a record level. He's only fought other martial artist at most, not TRAINED FIGHTERS. Jet Li and Jackie Chan (for example) are also actors, who inherit martial arts. They are skilled but not trained. They can beat your average joe or compete with other acclaimed martial artist, but put them against a trained fighter, in an MMA ring, and the "myth" will reveal itself. This happens ALL the time. All these martial artist: Karate, Muay Thai, Taekwondo, Wing Chun, list goes on, all end up getting destroyed in a professional bout, because they are taught one style of martial arts, they are not conditioned for mixed martial arts.
As you said, he was "advanced" for his time, but this is now. MMA is now currently well above that, where fighters are conditioned and trained to deal with all dimensions and styles of fighting, which "martial artist" are not.
When Kimbo Slice became a "legend" for his devastating displays in street fighting, he was signed to MMA, and once again, a legend is exposed.
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Bruce Lee was a pioneer in martial arts, not going to deny that, but that's all he was. He was an artist. He is a street fighter, because all his witnessed fights were in the streets in self defense situations or dojo challenges. This man has never competed and fought professional fighters. He may have been a force to reckon with back in the day, but by today's standards of MMA, he would just be another gear on the wheel.
MMA fighters are trained to fight against mixed martial arts. Bruce Lee, who may have harnessed mixed martial arts, has never fought and trained to fight against mixed martial arts. Your Royce Gracie example is a perfect example, they're fighting people conditioned for one style of fighting. And it's proven every time that people who jump in MMA, conditioned to counter one style or one dimension, get destroyed, even by lower levels of MMA.
Also, rules are created for "fair fighting", because without rules any guy can get hit in the balls, or gouged in the eyes, and then that's the end of the fight. Only in a self defense situation would it be different and the rules do not apply. But a sanctioned bout requires rules or then there'd be no fight.
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Good post.
Trouble is though, you are always going to have trouble talking sense to people who are misty eyed.
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Bruce Lee trained and fought Chuck Norris. Chuck Norris aka Professional Fighter aka The #1 Chuck F'n Norris. So to say that Bruce Lee never fought anyone on a professional level, just shows your stupidity
shareAlmost this entire thread is a flame thread on a legend, such as Bruce Lee.
Especially your post. First you act as if an MMA fighter could beat Bruce Lee in a fight!? Are you joking? Bruce Lee, trained Chuck F'n Norris, among other people. CHUCK NORRIS has won titles in fighting.. so to say that Bruce Lee has never fought anyone on a professional level, just shows me that people like you are the reason Trump got elected into office.
Bruce Lee had a choreographed fight with Chuck Norris for a film. Of course Chuck Norris is going to say good things about him, it's called modesty.
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Dude. We're talking outside of Hollywood. Bruce Lee trained many people one of them none other than Chuck Norris. Norris is a Martial Arts legend. Wiki him sometime. They both trained together for years outside of Bollywood before that movie ever came to be
shareBruce Lee did not train Chuck Norris. Chuck Norris made his way through martial arts and competed only in Karate tournaments. Chuck Norris had said him and Bruce Lee have worked out and sparred together, no indications of training or actual combat.
Chuck Norris himself is more acclaimed than Bruce Lee, seeing as how Norris actually did compete, but that was only in Karate. Put him in MMA and he'd have to adapt to a whole new branch of martial arts.
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....well that makes you and your comment rather stupid !!!! Bruce was the first to MIX martial arts and you said it yourself, he was in streeet fights !!! which back in the day were still tougher than any imparactical karate or tae kwon do tourney.....He was the real deal and just an fyi MMA /UFC "SPORTS" TODAY are no longer closer to a street fight than the ufc in 1993, the more rules and round you put in the least it is like a street fight...that being said BRUCE would mop the streets with any "competitor" in the street...after all thats why the ufc began, to prove styles and effectiveness....bruce was well in into BJJ before he passed to....20 years ahead of ufc launch...learn math buddy
shareBruce Lee was the one who wanted to start a Kumite in the US, but was shut down.
shareBruce was definitely a pioneer in the mindset and philosophy of MMA. If he ever would lose, he'd definitely work to adapt/adopt and stay on top of what works best for himself.
Just from how he moves on film, I don't think I've seen anybody today or anywhere that is as precise, fast, graceful, powerful as how Bruce moves.
MMA fights can't compare with street fights because of all it's rules.
Very true, also Bruce Lee never had the training of today's MMA fighter has. He was mostly trained by himself and practice with his friends. Not the 10 hours a day training, drinking protein shakes and eating the right food. He was just training on his spare time, with school and work, and remember he was a street fighter expert, not a professional MMA fighter. He was not making a living in the ring, his technique was for everyday average Joe.
shareGene LeBell out-grappled him rather easily, and even Gene LeBell knows that Chuck Norris would have been able to handle Bruce Lee, had they gone at it for real. Bruce was a child actor, Cha Cha dancer, and philosopher that dabbled in martial arts. Basically, he did some Wing Chun, and then started his own art, which is generally frowned upon.
Chuck was a military man and professional fighter. And, as much as I love Kung Fu movies, I have to say that Karate (or, Korean Tang Soo Do) trumps Kung Fu in almost every encounter I'd seen.
I lost to a Wushu fighter in a sparring match when I was doing Tang Soo Do, but he was much older, stronger, and a professional teacher and fighter. I was in 11th grade, and was just finding my footing, but it was a good learning experience. Also, there was no grappling, and I had some Judo experience and could have probably dragged him to the ground in a real encounter.
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Hahahahaha........sorry. I'm just laughing at all the UFC fans that responded that MMA fighters are "trained fighters"? They practice a fighting style that is only applicable in a MMA atmosphere. Bruce Lee was the "trained fighter" with multiple backgrounds in martial arts and he perfected each style he learned. Your MMA fighters would definitely get their asses handed to them by Bruce Lee. They don't perfect any of their individual practices. They learn a little bit of basic martial arts and grappling, and mix it all up into what you see today. MMA fighters are trained very half ass from a martial arts stand point.
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