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Was Sherpa Ang dorjee responsible?


It was his duty to stash few O cylinders at the summit but those cylinders where empty??? I din get it

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The cylinders were stashed at the south summit, and they weren't empty. Andy Harris was confused and thought they were empty but this was not the case. It's thought that Andy was already suffering from HACE (as Scott Fischer also probably was) and this affected his judgment and ability to read the dials etc. correctly.

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It was Doug hansons fault , shet I hate badmouthing the dead

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Sandy Pittman was to blame for it all.. A rich socialite b*tch who had someone vital to the crew dragging her up the mountain.

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It's not PC to hold the Sherpas accountable and usually their key role in the disaster is carefully avoided in the discussions, but having read several books and interviews with survivors on the subject, it's impossible not think their dereliction of duty on that day was the ultimate cause of all the delays and subsequent problems that resulted. Nothing to do with the cylinders, but them not doing their extremely important job that day and fixing the lines.

Lopsang and Ang Dorje were supposed to work together and fix the lines before any of the teams had arrived, precisely to prevent the bottlenecks that occurred. They didn't do it and both repeatedly lied about the reasons and even tried to blame the leaders who had died. They changed their stories multiple times, but finally settled on saying the plans had been changed at the last moment by Hall and Fischer for some inexplicable reason and without telling anyone else, not even the other guides, despite the fact that both head Sherpas left on schedule with all the rope needed to do the job. It is utterly absurd to believe Hall and Fischer told them not to fix the lines and then were flabbergasted that they hadn't been fixed when their teams arrived. The Sherpas who had proven themselves to be very brave and skilled climbers didn't do their job that day and wouldn't take responsibility for it.

Lopsang instead decided to short-rope Pittman for very unclear reasons, she didn't ask him to. Ang Dorje then refused to help fix the lines because Lopsang wasn't doing the work too. He sat around acting surly instead of helping during the bottlenecks. They clearly let their ego's and petty rivalry get in the way of doing their jobs. It's hard to see this tragedy happening if they hadn't been delayed by so many hours due to not having any fixes ropes before the storm came. It cost them such vital hours.

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Various people were culpable not just Lopsang. Boukreev behaved like a macho jerk, climbing without oxygen then descending without any of his clients. Hall and Fischer were not rigid on a specific 2pm turn-around time which cost their own lives as well as others.

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It seemed the Sherpas fell down on the job with both the ropes and failure to stash O cylinders ... AND not telling anyone. Their job was critical but they just let the teams get most of the way up and THEN discover there are no lines? There should have been hell to pay for that, but also the climb leaders should have cancelled the summit and turned back. No lines, no climb — no way. None of this “We’ll just waste a couple hours we don’t have rigging our own lines with not enough rope and go anyway.” That was reckless.

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Supposedly Ang Dorjee did stash O. Andy Harris claiming that there wasn´t any was not reliable because he was already supposedly suffering from HACE.

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Ultimately it was Scott Fischer and Rob Hall's faults. They were the team leaders. The Serpas are hired help. They can only do what the team leaders tell them. But it was Fischer and Hall's fault.

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Absolutely right. The Sherpas were only "hired help".

Scott Fischer and Rob Hall were the team leaders. It was their responsibility and 100% their fault, amirite?!

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