This guy is not even Mexican-American.
How does that happen? LOL
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Almost no in the show is Mexican American. Real LA Latino gangs are mostly Mexican and Central American. Instead the producers have chosen to cast this like a Broadway West Side Story with mostly New York actors of Puerto Rican and Cuban heritage which are very rare on the West Coast.
Cliff Curtis is a Pacific Islander from New Zealand and is badly miscast and unbelievable as the patriarch.
Face palm!!
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I agree...I mentioned this in my review. Without him, this show may not be around after this season.
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I agree with you on that 100%, I don't know the difference between the various Latin Americans so for me Curtis is believable as the patriarch of a Latin crime gang, I don't see why it's necessary to cast actors from the same region as the characters, they're actors they play roles that's their job I think a lot of people completely miss that point.
I agree with you on that 100%, I don't know the difference between the various Latin Americans so for me Curtis is believable as the patriarch of a Latin crime gang,
they're actors they play roles that's their job I think a lot of people completely miss that point.
Cliff Curtis plays everything but Maori. It is like a rule. Or a life long ambition.
shareHe played a Maori in "Once were Warriors", Lee Tamahori's debut film - and arguably his best film.
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He's played lots of Maori in film:
Once Were Warriors
Whale Rider
River Queen
The Dark Horse
There's also a bunch of minor NZ films he's done as a Maori as well.
The only big Maori movie he's missing from his CV is Boy.
I think Cliff Curtis is the best actor in the show.
shareCurtis gets huge raps elsewhere on this board as the best on the show
shareI have no problem with a actors playing other ethnicities. However, any local SoCal Hispanic can tell none of these actors are locals or Mexican s. The English and Spanish accents are different. A relative correctly diagnosed the New York accent from the audio alone. Personally I do not speak Spanish but I do know accents. I could tell an actress on Intelligence was not mainland Chinese but Malaysian. Not a big deal in a single case but rings completely false when the entire cast speaks with differing wrong accents.
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poststuff does not have a good point. He in fact proves that he doesn't know what he is talking about. Aside from Jay Hernandez, there are at least two other cast members that are Mexican Americans. Lela Loren and Emilio Rivera are also both of Mexican descent as well yet poststuff claimed that he can tell that none of the actors are Mexican.
This is a stupid topic.
Fine if you think the topic is stupid and unimportant to your ears.
Perhaps I used a bit of hyperbole. I did know the "Jay" actor was local Mexican American and one minor actor is Central American which is plausible. As for your cases, Emilio whatever is Tex - Mex which is a Texas dialect differing from California. Many of my relatives come from his home town. Lela Loren is some kind of mix (her real last name is Sharp) truthfully I do not know where in the US she originates.
I haven't heard anything from Emilio Rivera that makes him seem out of place in this show. If he were playing a gangster from New York and he still talks the way he does in this show then sure. I'm not sure what Lela Loren being mixed or not has anything to do with it. She is of Mexican descent. You said there were none. You seem to be clouded by what region they came from as if they can't as actors adapt to their roles.
Also, the main character Ryan should not sound like the people from where he grew up as a child anyway because he trained to be a law enforcer. Also, he is a mole in the police force and as such it'd be in his best interest to not give anyone in the force the idea that he is connected to the very people he is actually informing.
I understand your point I am watching Fast Five as I reply. Almost no major actors are Brazilian and the fast pace & unfamiliar accents make it watchable.
I still feel Gang Related is another animal as it purports to depict the culture within a well known region of the U.S. mainland. It has a very false feel to a local just as some crime movies probably ring false to some locals from New York, New Jersey, Boston, Florida, etc
For example, during the filming of Departed about Boston, locals Matt Damon and Mark Wahlberg supposedly gave Leo Dicaprio a hard time to change his accent.
This not fictional Narnia.
It has a very false feel to it. Very well put. Sons of Anarchy and Training Day are good examples of the "real feel" .
shareThere exist Tex-Mex Mexicans in SoCal. 30% of Califonians were not born in California.
shareOk I will give you that one. A few of my relatives even went back & forth between Texas & East LA. I can tell the difference but it is subtle. For clarification, in High School local Hispanic gang members used to question me about my generic California accent even though we grew up a few blocks apart. Hell even Kevin Costner, the accent massacrer, went to the next High School.
The point is SoCalers do have varying accents but we can usially detect them.
Emiilio Rivera has the real accent and is the real deal. Jay Hernandez knows how to put one on. They copied Training Day bathtub scene, but they should have copied the casting and cast Noel Gugliemi- he's got the real so cal accent. Maybe he's too old now, I don't know. And the Hefe's wife, that is so unreal. She would want revenge on her sons shooter and she would have at least one tattoo somewhere, and way more modern. Not like Don Corleones wife.
shareI'm surprised they don't have white guys in blackface playing the rival gang members.
shareSo? Everyone made a huge deal about how in the movie Selena a puertorican and not a mexican actress played the role of Selena, and although i can't stand Jennifer Lopez she was perfect in that role, even though she wasn't mexican.
shareBad casting. Hollywood still thinks all shades of Brown are same. And they do the same with Yellow. It is sad very sad.
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