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*spoilers* How did the nuns know who Ida was?


We find out that Ida/Anna's parents and cousins were murdered and their deaths covered up so that the other family could take their land, with Anna being spared because they could deposit her somewhere without raising suspicion, as she looked like a Gentile.

Okay, but then how does the convent (which appears to be reasonably far away from where Ida/Anna's family lived) know anything about Ida/Anna's background, like the fact that she has an aunt? Did the murderers tell them for some reason, which would seem to go against the reason for killing the family to begin with?

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I think the nuns searched for any of Ida's relatives and probably found her aunt on their own.





And all the pieces matter (The Wire)

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But how? They wouldn't know her name or anything about her background apart from the approximate geographical area. Given that the rest of her family outright vanished, that would if anything hold against them figuring out it was her.

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The man who killed the family left the baby at the local church. The priest must have been bright enough to figure out who the baby was. The local priest must have passed on that information to the nuns at the convent.

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I'd go further and suggest the man confessed his sins and the priest passed on the identity of the child to the nuns. I figure the man's guilt and piety is in the script for just this reason.

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You're just making stuff up. There's no priest in the movie, and nothing to pass on ... the priest could not have known of the baby's aunt. It's simply a gaping hole in the story line.

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The whole point of taking her to the convent was that she wasn't identifiable as a Jew. The notion that some priest figured it out is ludicrous and in no way supported by the movie. It's simply a flaw that you're trying desperately to paper over.

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The man who killed the family left the baby at the local church. The priest must have been bright enough to figure out who the baby was. The local priest must have passed on that information to the nuns at the convent.
I also agree.

The man explicitly says he gave the baby to the local priest. Just because we don't see a flashback of him doing so doesn't mean it didn't indeed happen that way or the priest doesn't really exist.

Living right there, the priest probably had a pretty good idea who was hiding where (but kept his mouth shut:-). And if he'd been there several years -which he probably had- he would have known all about the Lebensteins from before they went into hiding, what names they used and where they went. I don't see any reason why he couldn't have come up with Wanda's full name.

The address though would have been obtained by the nuns themselves from some sort of registry later. The nuns said as much when they said they were quite sure about Wanda's relationship, but so unsure about her address they suspected they had been simply posting letters to a bogus address for all those years.

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The man explicitly says he gave the baby to the local priest. .....

Living right there, the priest probably had a pretty good idea who was hiding where (but kept his mouth shut:-). And if he'd been there several years -which he probably had- he would have known all about the Lebensteins from before they went into hiding, what names they used and where they went. I don't see any reason why he couldn't have come up with Wanda's full name.

Agree this is a reasonable explanation.

JacintoCupboard also suggested that one of the guilt-stricken men might have divulged their misdeeds to a priest in confession. An interesting idea which would add another layer of irony to the story. I.e., Anna/Ida found out her true identity due to the obligation of confession to a human priest required by her adopted faith.

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There's no way they could have found her, and she couldn't have known that Ida was taken to the convent. It's simply a flaw.

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It's not possible ... it's a hole in the story.

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So, there is a "hole in the story," so what?

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