This is the part I couldn't buy. He beats up multiple military trained bad guys with his hand to hand combat and knife skills. He beats military trained marksmen in gun battles.
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Wrong quote and you did NOT understand what you see!
The first time he grab a gun(container shootout) he doesn't shot as the US MARSHAL and was quite lacking practical knowledge how handle...a gun
The showdown show how he is not so fluent in use of guns
Watch again and carefully
Last,In Prison,He learn to keep care of his back and fight with Bottles and hardware
Almost 15 years.. surrounded by beasts...
"To photograph: it is to put on the same line of sight the head, the eye and the heart."HCB
Yeah, he did 3 tours in Iraq. He was highly productive from the age of 18 to the age of 25.
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Before his enrolment in Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) he must of fitted into his life a short career with the Navy Seals as well. The movie did not cover back grounds that well I found.
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Yeah, he did 3 tours in Iraq. He was highly productive from the age of 18 to the age of 25.
Plus, NASA trains their teenage astronaut-recruits really well
shareHey! We need to abandon some stereotypes. Not all the people which works with computers are ugly nerds, fatty intellectuals, fussy guys with huge glasses nor punks.
Just watched the movie. It's absolutely possible. He could be a hacker and also a martial art expert - why not? I am a coder with more than twenty five years of experience. No, I am not a hacker. Pretty far of being that. But I do really weird deep sh*t. And also, I am getting trained in Keysi.
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shareHe wasn't an "expert marksman" it's not difficult to aim and shoot a handgun
We dug coal together.
Actually, it is. I guess you've never fired a hand gun.
shareWell it's easy enough for approximately 9000 people to die by firearms and 50 trained police officers to be shot by civilians every year in the United States (not counting suicides). Do you mean to tell us all these shooters received military weapons training?
shareNo, but they aren't putting down multiple skilled ex-military types throughout the course of a few hours.
shareBy multiple, you mean two? Because that's the exact number of guys Nick Hathaway dispatches with a gun in the entirety of the film, while himself getting shot numerous times in the lower side. I don't think this stretches the imagination too much.
By comparison, Neil Mc Cauley and co. in the great Heat shootout are 3 ex-cons against 15 law enforcement officers and kill most of them.
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In the final shootout, Hathaway fires four shots at one gunman, and manages to hit him once. And he gets shot twice in the process. It then takes him five shots to hit the second gunman, again once (and as a result of that and his wounds, the main villain is able to attack him with a knife). He definitely isn't portrayed as an expert marksman.
shareMy whole body and mind screamed Watch your background! get clean shots! when I saw the shootout first time.
He sure knew how to stab them though
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"if seagal was thinner this could have been a theatrical product."
he was hardly an expert marksmen, he shoots two people in the entire movie, and get shot in return and misses some shots.
The shank skills and fighting he obviously picked up in prison doing years at such a young age.
The shank skills and fighting he obviously picked up in prison doing years at such a young age.
Again ?! Stephen Watt: 7 foot tall bodybuilder hacker who did two years and on whom Nick Hathaway is based.
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http://www.wired.com/2013/04/stephen-watt-stalked-by-past/
So because there is one hacker you can point to that lifts weights, that means it's perfectly realistic that some hacker kid who went straight from college to prison is able to take on and defeat multiple experienced fighters in close quarters combat? Lol.
shareHey slick, don't try and shine me on.
You said "there was nothing remotely realistic about Hemsworth's character" and now you shift your story to "so because there is one hacker you can point to that lifts weights, that means it's perfectly realistic(...)?"
See where this is going? If I show you two bodybuilded hackers, are you gonna tell me "So because there's two..."?
What you said in your post was not "it's possible but still remains the exception". You said: "nothing remotely realistic", as in "impossible". Make up your mind and save us time.
But see, that's the trouble with posting strongly assertive posts without checking your facts first. You loose credibility.
As for fighting skills: there are plenty of ways to pick up basic street fighting skills like his even whitout having been to jail (4-5 hours of self defense course a week for a year or two, and you'll do wonders in bar brawls...). It's not like he's a kung-fu master spinning roundhouse kick all around.
If you are 7 feet you probably really aren't using H2H combat tech. Just sheer size and some basic training would be enough to smoke any normal sized man.
shareuhh you spend a lot of time working out and getting massive in prison. That guy would have to fight all the time (at first) because he's a white pretty boy, a blond blue eye guy at that. He would have to fight or get raped. There was a line in the movie where he was talking about MIT and then graduating onto gladiator school after he got arrested.
However, it is a movie and the guy is supposed to be a genius...so you gotta have some suspension of disbelief.
Lol. Everything you 'know' about prison, you've learned from movies.
This character wasn't a member of La Eme doing life at Pelican Bay. He was a white collar criminal in federal lock-up, doing cushy time.
Inmates are not fighting 24/7 to keep their asses pure, ESPECIALLY in medium-security federal facilities. Read the study "Sex in Prison: Exploring the Myths and Realities." Most sex is consensual.
And you don't spend all your time working out. You're lucky if you get one hour a day outside, just to walk around, not use weights.
The script was a lazy bit of crap that relied on the same tired old myths as countless forgettable movies before it.
I know people that have done time, and they come out huge. They all denied the rape stuff, but who knows. Where does it state that he was in a minimal-security prison? Where do you 'know' your stuff about prisons? A study? most sex is consensual...not all...
your a lazy bit of crap that relies on belittling other peoples work because you haven't done anything worthwhile before.
I knew an 17 year old who went to juvie for a year and he came out huge too. I didn't even know the kid when he came home. He looked very different.
shareDUDE everybody knows he is undercover THOR man!
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DUDE everybody knows he is undercover THOR man!
In Terminator 2 movie, when they first show Sarah Conor in of a prison cell, she's doing chin ups on an upturned bed. She's totally transformed herself into a lean, muscle fighter.
I remember audiences going - "Wow, doesn't she look hot". I don't remember anyone says, "Well, that's totally implausible. How inaccurate."
In Terminator 2 movie, when they first show Sarah Conor in of a prison cell, she's doing chin ups on an upturned bed. She's totally transformed herself into a lean, muscle fighter.Exactly!!! share
I remember audiences going - "Wow, doesn't she look hot". I don't remember anyone says, "Well, that's totally implausible. How inaccurate."
You don't get as big as Hemsworth doing chin ups. It also doesn't prepare you for the scenarios he was in throughout the course of the money.
shareYes (and to use my Terminator 2 example) you don't get Sarah Conors body just by doing chins ups. I know, I've tried. It's indicative, it's only a small scene to give you an example of how they used their time in prison.
Also Hathaway mentioned that whilst in prison, he used his time to work on his mind and his body.
He beats up multiple military trained bad guys with his hand to hand combat and knife skills.
His hand to hand combat skills were elite level. There's no way you learn that without some good teachers and years of training.