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Not bad for a Brad Pitt movie.


Brad Pitt's performance was great. This is one of his better movies. The story was done very well with some great plot twists. This diserves at least a 7.

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Wrong board I suppose?
What does Brad Pitt have to do with Blackhat?

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Brad Pitt was the star. He was the hacker. Wasn't he??

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Try glasses they might help.

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that was the joke. You have to admit, that hair was very 1995-7 Brad Pitt.

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Oh.
Well...

I never liked Brad Pitt so I don't know his hair styles.
I am not of Jennifer A. team or anything, just never like the guy as an actor nor as a person.
I am a big fan of Aidan Quinn so just the two of them brothers in Legends of the Fall were enough to put Brad Pitt off forever for me.

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I'm not a Brad Pitt "fan" per se. He's a functional actor, but he's not anything great, especially given all the years he's been acting. I could see him in this role perfectly because, well, it really felt like I was watching Brad Pitt, especially when the few strands of hair would fall over his eyes- it didn't fit the actor.

One thing I try hard never to do is let any one role ruin an actor for me. I loved Legends of the Fall and I would look at it as Pitt held his own against the far superior Aidan Quinn, and maybe respect him for that.

As a kid, my mother loved Ted Danson from Cheers. Then one time she saw a tv movie where he plays a pedophile and she became totally anti-Ted Danson. I never understood why she let that bother her.

Another thing people do is let the actor's personal views corrupt any films that actor is in. I know a guy who refuses to watch any films containing George Clooney or Sean Penn based solely on their political views. It seems like such a waste. None of the actors are affected by his choice, so only he loses out on certain great films (though he is spared Monuments Men and the Gunman, so maybe he's onto something...)

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I know what you meant. You meant I would miss the opportunity to watch a good movie if I happen to refuse to watch it just because I don't like the actor.
Now that you said this, I admit I am rather biased.
I've always liked Ashley Judd and thought she was very beautiful because she .. looked like/reminded me of my high school classmate! We were 11 years old girls (6th grade) then, when we started at that school, and when I saw Ashley in movies she was already a grown up woman, but somehow she looked like my friend, the smile, her face. And I've just liked Ashley ever since. Ashley has aged, but because I like her I almost never look at her face in movies or wherever, but I always say "Ashley Judd is very beautiful".
For most of the actors I like, I like them as the people too, not just their acting, and vice versa.
Legends, plus Pitt played a bad boy in Louise and Thelma, and so he is out!
In Legends Pitt was a young, good looking, very capable man, but arrogant and to me very unlikable.
I am not into talents much, I prefer virtues, but I understand that most of the time, or even always, there is this thing in life called priority. Todd Bertuzzi was/is a good hockey player/team lead or whatever title here, he hit Steve Moore, [many events happened in between here, with the law I mean] and when Bertuzzi was chosen to lead a team to an Olympics event (if I remembered correctly), I didn't like it, but I understood, well, why that happened.

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I'm part of this large group of the public that want to see a movie partly because I like the actor in it. Or conversely if the starring actor is someone I dislike then, I probably won't see it, no matter what the reviews say.

Why? Is this shallow? Probably, but we, the viewing public seem to do this a lot.

So I suppose how much you love or hate an actor falls into 3 catergories:

1) Their looks.

2) Previous roles. If you love the character they play and they've played it well, then this seems to somehow blend with them as a person. ie you're argument about Ted Danson, or how so many people are loving Chris Pratt, or is it really the character Star Lord they love. And countless other examples, especially when it's the first time you've seen this actor and so don't associate them with other roles.

3) The actor themselves. If in their personal life their are sort of 'douchy' (I tried for a better word - but this one just fitted so well), or shallow, or have outspoken political or religious views then that can taint your feelings about them.

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I'd be afraid I'd miss some great films if I let the actor affect my choice. There are actors I do like and sometimes that will lead me to watch a film I otherwise have no desire watching.

A few years go I met Bruce Willis in Central Park, NYC. I didn't approach him, he approached me to ask about the volley ball court. After we spoke briefly he walked away with his extremely young girlfriend. Withon a few steps, so people swarmed over to him and he was a complete jerk to those people.It made me really dislike the man and part of me wanted to stay clear of Bruce Willis films from that day forward- so far I have, but that's because he keeps choosing crap roles, but if a film came around that looked good with him in it, I'd go.

But certain things can't be excused. Like when it was revealed the lead singer of Lostprophets was an extreme sex offender/pedophile, it killed their music for me. I just can't look past something like that. And if my money helps support their standard of living, I refuse to contribute.

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But certain things can't be excused. Like when it was revealed the lead singer of Lostprophets was an extreme sex offender/pedophile, it killed their music for me. I just can't look past something like that. And if my money helps support their standard of living, I refuse to contribute.
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EASY GOER (12/4/2016)

Since we have moved off topic here, I want to reply to what you wrote about Bruce Willis. I moved to NYC (in SoHo) in early 1988. Not too long after moving there, my girlfriend and I went to a well known stand up comedy club which (at the time) was located on Pier 17. We saw a very good comic. Now get this: the film "Diehard" had just been released about a month before. Bruce Willis' face was plastered all over billboards in ads for the film at the time. Lo and behold, Willis and Demi Moore were sitting at the table adjacent to ours. I didn't even notice them; my girlfriend did. In typical NYC fashion, no one bothered either one of them; everyone simply enjoyed the show. BTW, I am not a big Bruce Willis fan, but that is not my point. My point is, he was a very well known celebrity because the film was such a huge success, and no one bothered either one of them. A week later, we went to a great jazz club on University Place, right above Washington Square. It was a tiny club (the best). It held maybe (30) guests: There were maybe 12/2 person tables, and a bar with 6 seats. We had heard this hot new (very young) jazz pianist was going to be there. It was indeed true. It was a trio: Standup bass, small drum kit, and this guy who absolutely blew us away on the keyboard. Now I played lead guitar for years in a local band in my hometown. I told my girlfriend how good this pianist was. All of a sudden this very well dressed, nice looking lady who was sitting alone at the table next to us leaned over and told us all about him (the pianist). She had overheard us talking, and was simply being kind by telling us that he was a guy really on the way up in the jazz world, etc. My girlfriend and I were stunned when we realized who she was: Liza Minnelli! Judy Garland's daughter, as kind a person as could be. All this was was not long after I moved to Manhattan. I lived there 28 years, and moved back 4 months ago. My point is, most people in NYC don't even notice celebrities; when someone does get noticed, they are usually left alone. It is a respectful thing, and I mean as a person, not a celebrity. I don't know how else to describe it; you have to live there to understand what I am talking about. It is not like that in any other city in the US; certainly not in Los Angeles, and I have lived there and in several other cities as well. As far as this film, Blackhat was "disowned" by Michael Mann at a screening of his films held in Austin, TX much earlier this year (March, 2016). He screened his own cut of the film. You can read about it in the "Trivia" section of the film on this website if you doubt me.

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Watch 12 Monkeys and Snatch. I think those are his best performances. In the former, his eccentric insanity is a great source literary misdirection. The latter, his mix of British, Cockney and Gypsy accents was impressive for someone of his ilk.

But for the most part, he's just serviceable.

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12 Monkeys is still one of my all-time favorites. I think I can't even count how how many times I've watched this movie so far. And while I'm not a Brad Pitt fan (don't have anything against him though), I think this was probably his best performance ever, even topping Tyler Durden.

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12 Monkeys is also one of my favorite films too, particularly for it's narrative style, themes and depth. The best films, to me, make you think long after it's done (Fight Club is also good in that regard). I'd also say that Pitt has never given a better performance than in 12 Monkeys.

Keep it civil. It's not that important.

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Functional? Have you ever seen 12 Monkeys?

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I honestly thought I was watching Brad Pitt. It wasn't till after I posted here that realized it was Chris Helmsworth. The two really look alike. Check it out here:

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR3LaUulhcPZl8XHxgF5Zja4ss4MOCTXedQYmiigpyplPqV0IJc

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I honestly thought I was watching Brad Pitt
LOL

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nope.....

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I can understand if u haven't followed any of them closely. They are actually a little alike. Never thought of that.

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If you have to explain a joke......it's not a joke.

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If anyone, Hemsworth looks like the late Paul Walker.

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To me he doesn't.

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Stupid comment!

Yea, Tho I Walk Thru The Valley Of The Shadow Of Political Correctness...🇺🇸

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The funny thing about this comment by tek87-768-651706 is that during the movie I thought exactly the following:

"Oh my God if they would have had Brad Pitt do this role." .... and then I chuckled ...

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i thought the same thing. look like ole brad.
the other thing here is it reminded me a bit of oliver stone's money never sleeps.
stone and mann are a bit old to be tackling such current and hip stuff.
if they were 20 years younger they probably would've been great flix.

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Must be Smart to like it?

MOST people know that, above all, liking or disliking a movie is Opinion - there is no wrong answer, just whether you enjoyed it. I enjoyed Blackhat; what's far more interesting is a Correlation I noticed:

Most all who disliked the movie adamantly - I'm talking hyperbole, over-use of superlatives, extreme language - are NOT an intelligent group.

Yes, most all who liked the movie are intelligent, as a whole. Evidence? Easy, the reviews they write. Almost to a review, those written by the type who uses phrases like "worst I have seen since" or "walked out of it, could not finish it!", blah blah blah - they are written by those with lower intelligence, as indicated by their writing. You know it when you see it, trust me.

And this movie does take intelligence to appreciate - it also takes 'not being trained by Hollywood to Judge movies and write reviews'. Anyone who even thinks they know Mann will also know that "if you missed it in this movie, it is because of you - not because 'it' wasn't there."

They completely miss the point - how many negative reviews claim to 'know' Mann? The negative reviews making that claim also admit that that they "missed what Mann usually does or says with his movies" - or the like. Well, the reason they all 'missed' it is because of them, not because of Mann. This was Mann's commentary on 2015, Technology and what's happening both locally and globally - and that no one else is really talking about. Missed that?

That explains your bad review - and it seems you must be smart to recognize it - or watch the movie a few times, which is what I did.

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Well, if anything it proves that even smart people can appreciate a movie which definitely has its flaws. It doesn't mean, however, that people who disliked it for these flaws are any less intelligent.

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Thiesi,

Not sure if you're addressing my (over-posted, sorry) comment cuz hard to tell (what am I missing, that most people seem to know?) - I definitely agree with you that "people who disliked it for these flaws are any less intelligent."

Rather, it is those people who disliked it and cannot intelligently describe specifically why AND who are all righteous about it all, as if WE all must be the less-intelligent ones if we either like it or can explain it's many positive features. We all should have No Patience for that type who throws all manner of invective at a movie, does so in the most mundane and simplistic way and using the most pedestrian and cliche' language AND ridicules anyone who dares to disagree with their kind of adolescent 'pan' of the movie.

There are too many on IMDB who seem sure there is only 1 Right Answer and they have it - and anyone expressing a different view "must be a retard!", etc. (of course, using that level of intelligence and language). There is definitely no right answer nor the right way to express a review - so mainly I'm objecting as well to the kind of closed-minded mentality so many ADAMANTLY Negative reviewers express - as if multiple exclamation points and being over-the-top self-righteous equals being totally correct and the only person who got it right, while expressing 'dripping contempt' for everyone else.

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"Meet Joe Blackhat" ...

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Thanks for making me laugh

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