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training your turret to the side


As the tank platoon is heading to the 2nd village all the tanks have their turrets facing forward. This is no good for the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th tanks; there's nothing to shoot at. Shouldn't they be trained out to the sides, in alternation? ( face right, face left, face right, or the opposite )

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I agree.

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According to Army field manuals (FM 17-5: Armored Force Drill, January 18, 1943; FM 17-30: Tank Platoon, October 22, 1942; FM 17-10: Tactics and Technique March 17, 1942) security is mentioned and stressed in every manual.

FM 17-30: Tank Platoon references marches:

https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/ref/FM/PDFs/FM17-30.PDF

Chapter 4: Marches

d. A march must not be considered as a joy ride. All men must be alert. Weapons must be ready to repel a ground or air attack. Tank commanders observe from the turret and keep close watch for enemy air or ground troops and for distance to the tank ahead.

e. The following should be particularly stressed (see also FM 17-32):

(1) Keep proper distance from vehicle ahead.
(2) Glance to rear occasionally to observe march of other vehicles.
(3) Watch for air or ground attack.
(4) Keep to right of road when there is two-way traffic. Travel in center of high crowned road when there is one-way traffic but watch out for vehicles trying to pass.
(5) Move off road at halt or as far off the side as practicable. If ditches prevent moving completely off the road. Use available cover but do not close up. Keep distance.
(6) Change drivers at the halt.
(7) Keep alert. Keep weapons ready for use


As an audience member, we are not given all the facts which could answer why their weapons were not in a herringbone posture (where the first vehicle faces it's weapons to the front, and the following vehicles alternate their posture left and right and the trail vehicle faces backwards).

The most logical explanation is that the platoon leader and platoon sergeant did not expect contact with enemy forces and therefore had a more relaxed posture. This is evident since all crew members are unbuttoned, that is, all hatches are open so they can observe without having to look through the periscopes and view ports on the tank.

What does not make senses is Norman not calling out the dismounted enemies in the tree line or the fact that the tank commanders and loaders did not observe the movement since they have the highest observation and vantage point on the vehicle. Most likely, Brad Pitt's character or the loader would have seen the German Soldiers along the side of the road before Norman did.

[Edit: Grammar]

"Toto, I've [got] a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore."

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What does not make senses is Norman not calling out the dismounted enemies in the tree line or the fact that the tank commanders and loaders did not observe the movement since they have the highest observation and vantage point on the vehicle
Yeah that was embarrassingly over-contrived to make a point wasn't it? His lone spotting of the man/boy in the trees was as silly as what at times seemed to be his magical field of fire with that fixed machine gun.


...then whoa, differences...

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Yeah that was embarrassingly over-contrived to make a point wasn't it? His lone spotting of the man/boy in the trees was as silly as what at times seemed to be his magical field of fire with that fixed machine gun.


And that is the difference between movies and reality, the ambush sequence helps to drive the narrative forward and does not necessarily have to be based on facts or logic.

"Toto, I've [got] a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore."

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There are degrees however. I'm not saying how close this movie was to it, but in general there's a line somewhere between bending credibility for the sake of the story, and urinating in the viewer's face and telling them to like it.


...then whoa, differences...

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training your dragon

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...then whoa, differences...

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