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The white guy in the cali cartel?


Who is that creepy looking buffalo bill looking guy?

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He's not white. There are Hispanics with dark skin and Hispanics with light skin, just as there are light and dark-skinned white people. Just look at the Mexican sicario Edgar Valdez Villarreal AKA La Barbie.

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my bad, but whats his name?

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No idea.

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No, he was white. Latin America has had immigrants from Africa, Asia and Europe. Some brazilians, colombians, chileans etc. still retain their original surnames as well. There are colombians who are as white as a norwegian, and colombians who are as dark as a nigerian. '

Hispanic' is a very poor term to describe them. They speak a common language but the nationality itself encompasses all ethnicities on the planet.

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No, he was Hispanic.

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Not sure if Trump supporter or troll.

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He's not white.


If he is a direct descendant of Europeans with no indigenous blood, why would he not be white?

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If he is a direct descendant of Europeans with no indigenous blood, why would he not be white?

Why would you assume he's a direct descendant of Europeans? Plenty of Hispanics look white. And, for the record, the actor who played the character in question (as another poster just pointed out) is Juan Sebastián Calero whose parents were both born in Colombia.

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Why would you assume he's a direct descendant of Europeans? Plenty of Hispanics look white.


If they 'look white', it's probably because they're of European descent! Somehow you're under the American impression that being Hispanic and 'White' are mutually exclusive. If a German or British couple emigrated to Colombia and had a child, that child is still 'white'.

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If they 'look white', it's probably because they're of European descent!

Not necessarily.
Somehow you're under the American impression that being Hispanic and 'White' are mutually exclusive.

Lol, no, darling, I just know that Hispanics can look white, just as whites can look Hispanic. And, as I said of the actor in question, both of his parents were born in Colombia....

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Hispanic is not a race. Hispanics are white (European), black (African), Native American or any mix thereof (Mestizos). A person can be born in Colombia or Argentina or Uruguay,etc. to families that have been in the New World for centuries and still be of 100% European descent, just like whites from the U.S. or Canada. For instance Alexa Bledel is Hispanic because she comes from Argenitna but racially she's white. Celia Cruz was Hispanic because she was from Cuba but racially she was black. George Lopez is Hispanic because his family is from Mexico but racially he is Mestizo (Native/White mix). So white Hispanics don't "look" white, they are white.

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Meant Julia Gonzalo, not Alexis Bledel.

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Lol, no. Would Latino/a be a more preferable term for you?

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Why would you assume he's a direct descendant of Europeans?


Because the native inhabitants of the Americas are very dark compared to Europeans. Therefore, any person in Latin America who has fair skin, red hair, and light eyes is obviously almost entirely if not entirely of European descent. This isn't complicated.

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Sorry, bud, but you're late to the party. I already proved myself correct.

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You have proven yourself ignorant

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Edgar Valdez Villarreal is not Mexican, he's an American citizen, from Texas I think.

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He is Mexican-American from Laredo, but his last name proves the point I made.

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Yeah and?? 10-15% are white you telling me that Eugenio Siller isnt white? LOL

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He's not white.

Yes he is.
There are Hispanics with dark skin and Hispanics with light skin,

Hispanics just means someone of Spanish descent, it's not an actual race. Look at Eiza Gonzalez (born in Mexico) and the actors/actresses in this show.

This whole "Hispanic" doesn't really matter in Europe for example, we don't label people based on that but as people. America sure did a number on folks over there to make pretty much all that "Hispanic" and "Latino" is a race of its own.

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Hispanics just means someone of Spanish descent


Actually 'Hispanic' is a linguistic group. Many Hispanics are not of Spanish descent, such as Cuban salsa legend Celia Cruz, former Peruvian President Alberto Fujimori or Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim.

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Are you stupid or what?? Hispanic is NOT a race a hispani/latino can be white, black , mestizo,pardo heck even asian.

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Navegante

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He's Navegante played by Colombian actor Juan Sebastián Calero. He's a really talented actor I really like him and hope he get more roles. I saw him in Alias el Mexicano where he plays a narco and right now he's doing a novela on Telemundo called Sin Senos Si Hay Paraiso where he plays a corrupt layer for a female narco.

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Thats Navigante, the sicario who turned on "El Mehican" Gacha in season one. I like his look....kind of like a psychotic mix of Buffalo Bill and Phil Collins.

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He is a Colombian actor playing a Colombian. If he ever travels to America, he would be considered "Hispanics"

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He wasnt the only white guy in Cali Cartel Pacho Herrera was white as well

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