The end will annoy
No spoiler here other than to say the end will annoy many viewers.
you saw the show already?
shareI have feeds for 4 time zones
shareThat's really cool! Is there anyway you could message me those? I have live feeds for certain shows I follow that are on premium cable channels, but all 4 zones would be really cool :)
sharesatellite feeds not internet
Ah... ok :) Some user is pegging you as a troll. lol
It's Mech13: http://www.imdb.com/user/ur12186036/
I just told him I haven't seen you do anything that would suggest that. I mentioned that I'm glad I called Cris as the killer and he said, oh, I called it first. I went back to his thread, and he's the one who claimed to know it was Cris without ever having watched any of the show. And he was arguing with you about stuff in Cris' bio. I remember reading that and not wanting to get into the drama. :P
It certainly annoyed me that there wasn't any sort of celebration afterwards, but I suppose Cam wanted to get out of there and into therapy. I certainly would!
By the way, did anyone else see Sasha totally snub him on his way out?
Judging by the other contestants reaction to his win, that is probably why there was no celebration. Sasha looked aggravated, however, a lot of the other people didn't look all that happy either. I don't think I have ever seen a reality show where there was almost no happiness for the winner.
Honestly, Kam was a jerk the entire game. I can't say I was happy to see him win.
I didn't really care for Kam's attitude either.
shareI saw the Sasha thing but wasn't sure if he snubbed her? Or maybe she was just way too much into her character. Kam did hint he dislikes a couple of the players, but don't recall hearing any bad blood about Sasha.
I think Sasha may have still be angry about how she was ousted also. She seemed very angry that she was not listened to by her team, which resulted in her getting a low score and "killed". While its been weeks of watching, its been a lot shorter time for her. She could still be angry, maybe not at the winner, but at the show itself. Although she could be angry with the winner, as his/her actions were self serving, and he/she acted like a jerk the entire game. It could be safe to say the other players were not thrilled to see him/her win as opposed to someone else.
shareSasha and Cam had a terrible feud going on. They had to reshoot the walking out sequence 3 times because of things like Cam giving Sasha the finger. It's all mentioned in this video podcast interview with the show's producer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnET6oEFveU
Comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable
Listing things that will annoy people:
1) Kam is disliked by many viewers (I personally respected him and his game, but he is blunt which people mistake as negative, bad, etc)
2) Pageant winner is a hackneyed cliche
3) False clues
4) Useless non-clue clues: (ie 613 was not a clue to anything, it was a door combination)
5) The impossibility of some events
6) The dark horse/light horse continuity issue
7) The way even the winner doesn't really know they won at the end. Kam won the moment all his pieces were done. Cris can't win, and Lindsey was 2nd, so they went through a long awkward spiel before he even knew.
8) Kam didn't really 'solve' the final clue, he simply gave up making the wrong guess out of frustration. He even said he didn't believe his own changed answer.
9) add your own....
And don't forget the casting of the killer, the worst ive seen in reality tv
shareLindsey nailing down the killer's identity in the first week, never wavering, and still losing (the who/how issue has been addressed before, but it is still a bit unnerving at the least).
No explanation to the viewing audience of these hidden clues that were supposedly embedded into each episode.
No investigation for Melina's murder.
Kam getting a decided advantage with the puzzle piece (why did they all get to the secret door at the same time anyways?) He messed up enough times at Don's station to make it interesting.
Some fairly nonsensical challenges (Sheri's, which essentially was just a how well can you shoot a slingshot; Sasha/Dana's, perception is important but could they at least have looked at a picture of their murders and pick out what was wrong)
Oops, very good point. I forgot Lindsey also homed in on Cris from day 1!
9) Melina knew from day 1 "whodunnit" and through the whole season accused Cris. She was the only one who did. Benefit of this? Zero.
EDIT: correction, Lindsey also knew it was Cris from the start
I must say, I respected Kam's gameplay. He did what he needed to ensure his team's survival, and I commend him on that. He also did great at solving things. :)
share1) Kam is disliked by many viewers (I personally respected him and his game, but he is blunt which people mistake as negative, bad, etc)
2) Pageant winner is a hackneyed cliche
3) False clues
4) Useless non-clue clues: (ie 613 was not a clue to anything, it was a door combination)
5) The impossibility of some events
6) The dark horse/light horse continuity issue
7) The way even the winner doesn't really know they won at the end. Kam won the moment all his pieces were done. Cris can't win, and Lindsey was 2nd, so they went through a long awkward spiel before he even knew.
8) Kam didn't really 'solve' the final clue, he simply gave up making the wrong guess out of frustration. He even said he didn't believe his own changed answer.
9) Melina knew from day 1 "whodunnit" and through the whole season accused Cris. She was the only one who did. Benefit of this? Zero.
AH_Fan: "The killer, Cris, had a huge part in helping Kam win."
One could argue that Kam's superior strategy actually helped carry Lindsey and Cris to the end. Granted, Cris wouldn't have been killed regardless, but she held her own as a player and never needed by to "saved" by the production. That's the real message they sent when they had Giles comment on how she'd never been scared during the whole season. It to reinforce that they didn't give her any "help" along the way.
AH_Fan: "I'm aware that the killer wasn't given any details and was told to play along. But the fact remains that Cris was paid by the the producers to be the killer and thus any actions she took could be interpreted as being actions taken on behalf of the producers."
That interpretation would be wrong, and you know that based on your first sentence acknowledging she had no producer info.
It to reinforce that they didn't give her any "help" along the way.
That interpretation would be wrong, and you know that based on your first sentence acknowledging she had no producer info.
We don't "know" that she was tipped off on how Geno was murdered. That's your contention but the facts seem to disagree.
Interpretations can be wrong. Someone could interpret that Cris was from Mars. They'd be wrong.
Cris played alongside, solving what she could. The reason for this was an attempt to keep her role a secret. We could discuss all kinds of subjective questions such as whether that was a good or bad idea, whether it worked, or whether it serves any purpose when the identity of the player-killer turned out to be meaningless to the game. But for the objective question of did she know the murder details, 100% of the facts known to date are that she didn't.
I wouldn't say annoying just disappointing. It was too sudden and Kam didn't even lead Cris down the stairs, he just stayed in the killer's secret room.
shareTo satisfy ABC Standards and Practices, they need to have tests/challenges that are air tight. So this round was a race to fill in the question mark.
Kam finished his first, at that point he'd already won.
Cris can't win or die, so that meant Lindsey "dies".
Lindsey gets the alternate message screen, and gets told she's done, and sets up for filming her arrow to the neck scene.
I'm a little intrigued about how they would have handled it if Cris finished her puzzle last.
Cris knew all the answers so she just making sure she finished second. She was pretty obvious she intentionally fiddled around with the gun in the dark and wasted time. If she didn't, she would been first.
shareI'm not sure about that. I think she pushed the goggles and tangled the lei in the dark. The more obvious tampering could be in the photo challenge of how many items are different? They've also said they didn't give the player-killer any clues, which might be true.
Did anything materialize about the two eleven six and six clue?
Room 25? Another unresolved red herring?
You were right, end was annoying only because the person who called Cris as the killer from day one got nothing out of the deal. That sucks for Lindsey. Kam had no clue which in itself was part of the editing because he never once guessed Cris as the killer.
I guess the biggest clue was the bobby pins.
Well based on the internet response, indeed a lot of people are finding the outcome to be at least somewhat annoying.