What are the chances for renual?
Just wondering if you guys think this will come back. I love this cheesy show!
When does abc let everyone know about the summer renuals?
Just wondering if you guys think this will come back. I love this cheesy show!
When does abc let everyone know about the summer renuals?
Zero chance.
Outside of Wipeout, ABC has had a lot of trouble with summer shows.
renewal..
sheesh..
i bet it will comeback cos the ratings aren't that bad...
abc have cancelled shows with far less and more ratings than this..
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i bet it will comeback cos the ratings aren't that bad...
someone said the ratings have improved.
word of mouth works.
if they are unsure about their new projects or a similar show using similar 'plot/synopsis' best to keep this going a bit longer to see peoples thoughts.
I've read this show takes $750,000 per episode to produce. That's high for a reality (or reality fiction) show, and I think that would be more of a hurdle to overcome than the ratings.
The ratings, at 1.1, might be just passable enough. As Milo said, if they can generate enough good word of mouth, there's a sliver of hope for a 2nd season.
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Check out Tvbythenumbers.com for the weekly rating numbers...
They're honestly not that good but I think they're passable.
ABC did allow "I Survived a Japanese Game Show" to go on for 2 seasons so I'd assume they'd let this show go on the same.
I do think this show is in dire need of a format change if it does return...
It's crazy how the contestants already found a way to monopolize the game in only its 1st season.
There needs to be more curveballs and shake-ups so the same Alliance Vs Alliance doesn't occur again.
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Ok.. so one more time and this time, do pay attention:
High chances of renewal. Everyone is talking about the show and making speculations about it. Plus, ABC is in desperate needs a summer filler. Logically speaking, 1+1 = 2
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You have a serious problem. Someone doesn't agree with you and you resort to name calling. The article doesn't agree with what you're saying, so it's ridiculous. I'm going to assume you are very young, because you certainly don't act like an adult. If you are an adult, it might be time to grow up an act like one. I'm done with you. Life's too short to waste on people like you.
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People can be so funny and sad on the internet...more so sad.
I think it may come back. I mean some people think given there's a second book it will return, but I wouldn't make that a sole reason for it to return. I would like for there to be a second one, but I'm honestly not sure.I think it could go either way
Girl#1: We're dead if we don't do something.
Girl#2: Something's already dead. Your ends.
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I'm flagging this guy...Dude has got some problems.
shareDon't bother--Root is the resident troll on the Whodunnit? boards. Just click the 'Flag' button and then click 'Ignore this user.' It'll make your life better, I promise.
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Hope they have more seasons. This was definitely the guilty pleasure of the summer and they were lucky to get a great cast overall. Dana and Geno were my favorites, and Melina was impressive towards the end. Wouldn't mind seeing more of everyone in the future sans Kam.
shareThe more important question is "how can I get on the season 2 cast?"
Seriously, I would be great. I knew Kam would win but I did guess the killer to a reasonable degree. I mean I thought Linsey was just faking being that annoying to throw folks off.
I did know the killer would be a hot woman though.
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Hey cheerbearsmiles, You are absolutely right about the resident troll. I guess I missed a few of his name changes. All I remember was "Piano_Lady"! Anyway thanks for your support and be prepared for one of his many sock accounts to berate "Eddyfitzboy". Not my name of course but since he cuts/pastes his replies, he'll make the same mistake that he's always made.
Here, I'll help him out: It's Eddysfitzboy... Got IT???
A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.
Getting this thread back on track-- the finale posted a 1.4 rating, the highest of this season. It also won its timeslot this week. This is Whodunnit's strongest case for renewal yet.
shareYou're right, about the thread I mean, but I don't think the show will be renewed. I'm sure it won it's slot but ABC has a serious problem with success. I doubt they will renew the show but if they do, they will put it in a time slot that will ensure its demise.
That's my $0.02 worth.
A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.
Okay, you pay attention:
Just because everyone is talking about it and ABC needs summer filler doesn't equal a renewal. All it comes down to is the ratings. Everyone in the country could be talking about it, but if only a small number of viewers actually tune in to the show, then that's pointless.
Networks get pitches for new shows ALL THE TIME. So it's easy for ABC to order another series to air next summer.
I'm not saying the show won't get renewed, I'm just saying that the reasons you've listed are very poor reasons and don't make any sense.
So don't tell us to pay attention to you since you clearly don't understand how renewals work.
> It's crazy how the contestants already found a way to monopolize the game in only its 1st season.
The producers have said that they expected that some people would team up and monopolize some information. I guess that just part of the game.
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I was thinking how it would be neat if they would have the contestants draw cards or something to determine where they would investigate. This would take away some of their control and could possibly require alliances to be either broken or slow their forming.
share> This would take away some of their control and could possibly require alliances to be either broken or slow their forming.
I think the show is fundamentally flawed in that it requires you to rely on other people to get 2/3 of your information and also puts a premium on lying to other people and not giving up your third of the information.
Somehow the game has to be shifted to the point where you can solve things all by yourself and alliances become redundant.
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I think the show is fundamentally flawed in that it requires you to rely on other people to get 2/3 of your information and also puts a premium on lying to other people and not giving up your third of the information.
Somehow the game has to be shifted to the point where you can solve things all by yourself and alliances become redundant.
> There's nothing flawed with relying on other people to get information. Even real-life detectives often have to rely on informants.
In real life, that's true. In real life, most people work together to achieve a common goal. A few people, for personal reasons, will lie and the group will be misled. But, the majority of information will be correct and the right answer will usually be arrived at.
But this is a individual game where every scrap of information that you give out helps another person finish better than you. Kam won this game primarily because he stood firm and refused to give out any information to anyone except his two alliance-mates.
> Also, by having people share information, they have to figure out if someone is telling the truth or lying. That's also something that real-life detectives have to do.
But, real-life detectives have an unlimited amount of time and resources to investigate a crime. Plus, they have a team of detectives who are all working together and are assumed to be honest. One lone suspect that is lying is quickly isolated.
That can't really happen in a game like this. You don't have a team of trusted workers to help you. At best you have one or two people that you have no choice but to trust ... mostly. And if you take too long to figure something out, someone else grabs the prize.
> But the fact remains that Cris was paid by the producers to be the killer so that makes Cris an agent of the producers.
Correct. My solution to that is to just convert the game to the standard Hollywood movie plot and make the killer a little-seen person that is not one of the players (e.g., Jigsaw in Saw). He's got them all trapped in the mansion and he kills off the weakest player every week.
Then there is no conflict of interest between a secret player and the producers and the other players. They'd be more likely to work as a team.
In fact, maybe that's a better premise. Make the quiz a bigger part of the game and say that anyone scoring below 75% gets a scared card. If everyone scores above 75%, no one is killed the next week (but two might be killed the next week). Maybe a random pizza delivery boy is killed instead.
That would encourage the players to actually work together.
> Kam, Lindsey, and Ulysses didn't have to solve the riddles themselves to save themselves because Cris, who was basically an agent of the producers, solved the riddles and saved them.
Yup. Big flaw. I'd like to hear what Cris was told about how she was supposed to interact with the other players.
On the other hand, it's been said that Cris knew none of the details of each murder so her clue-solving ability was no better or worse than any of the other players. In fact, it might have been worse and she might have been a disadvantage to Kam since she knew that she didn't have to try very hard.
> When Giles announces the player who made the most impressive case statement, Giles could give that player a clue to the identity of the killer.
Eh. I'm not sure that's such a great idea. It would be easy for one alliance to dominate one week and then gain a advantage for next week and dominate again.
I'm thinking that being the winner from one week gets you immunity for the next week and that's all. That player won't try as hard the next week and may hurt his team because of it.
Or maybe it gives you a 30-second head start on the final week's challenge. If you are killed before the final week, oops! Too bad.
In any case, as its currently designed, the identity of the killer is a useless piece of information. I'd bet that that question isn't even on the weekly quiz. The show should have been called "Howdunnit?" instead of "Whodunnit?" since the "who" part doesn't matter.
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her clue-solving ability was no better or worse than any of the other players. In fact, it might have been worse
she might have been a disadvantage to Kam
I'm not sure that's such a great idea. It would be easy for one alliance to dominate one week and then gain a advantage for next week and dominate again.
I'd bet that that question isn't even on the weekly quiz.
The show should have been called "Howdunnit?" instead of "Whodunnit?" since the "who" part doesn't matter.
> But regardless of Cris' ability to solve the riddles, the fact is she did solve 2 riddles at probably the 2 most important moments in the game. And by solving those 2 riddles, she gave enough information to Kam and Lindsey
But, my point is, if you believe the producers, she was not given any details about the crime, so she solved those two all on her own, which she would have done whether or not she was designated as the killer. So, if she truly had no knowledge of the clues and crime, then it is absolutely fair for her to share her insights with her team.
Of course, the fact that it was just the right clue at the perfect moment leads the skeptic in me to think that she had some producer help. If so, that becomes unfair in favor of her teammates.
> Even if Cris were the worse crime-solver ever, that still isn't a disadvantage to Kam and Lindsey because that still doesn't prevent Kam and Lindsey from solving the riddles themselves,
That's true. But, consider the point where the teams were three and three. If her team sent her to the morgue, for example, and she was just so bored that she didn't pay much attention, her teammates would have the disadvantage that the other team wouldn't.
> But since Cris was so good at solving riddles, there was a huge advantage for Kam and Lindsey.
Yes it was. But, Cris would have helped Kam and Lindsey equally as much as if she wasn't the killer. In other words, Kam and Lindsey got no advantage as a direct result of Cris being the killer.
> I don't see how giving the most impressive player a clue to the killer's identity helps one team dominate the next week's riddle.
True. But, there is no point to giving them such a clue at all since the end game doesn't involve knowing the killer's identity either.
> The show needs to be "Whodunnit?" because "Whodunnit?' will draw more interest than "Howdunnit?".
Oh, I understand why they picked the name. "Whodunnit" is already a popular meme in murder-mystery lore. I am just pointing out that the title is grossly misleading since the answer to the titular question is irrelevant to every aspect of the game.
> Viewers are going to guess and debate all season long who the killer is. They need to have a killer at the end to give a payoff to the viewers watching the show each week and debating who the killer is.
Well, that's hard to deny that people have been going ga-ga over the identity of the killer, even when it is pointed out to them that it doesn't matter at all and the "clues" you see are just random coincidences.
Yet, many TV shows and movies do just fine when the identity of the bad guy is known to the audience all along. It's still fun to play along with the hero to solve the mysteries.
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Yet, many TV shows and movies do just fine when the identity of the bad guy is known to the audience all along. It's still fun to play along with the hero to solve the mysteries.
if you believe the producers, she was not given any details about the crime, so she solved those two all on her own, which she would have done whether or not she was designated as the killer. So, if she truly had no knowledge of the clues and crime, then it is absolutely fair for her to share her insights with her team.
Kam and Lindsey got no advantage as a direct result of Cris being the killer.
there is no point to giving them such a clue at all since the end game doesn't involve knowing the killer's identity
> Cris says in this podcast that the producers told her to tell Giles to do the limbo and to take Giles' jacket and give it to Geno
Yes and no. In the podcast she says that nobody wanted to limbo so the producers told her to tell Giles to limbo and he handed his jacket to Geno. She says that the producers hadn't planned on that, but they later decided to work that scene into the plot and invented the idea of Geno stealing the cell phone.
In any case, Cris says that she didn't think anything of the producers telling her to say that since the producers were always telling people where to stand and what to say to move the game along. She wasn't singled out more or less than the other players.
> what other tips might the producers have given to Cris (and thus Kam and Lindsey) on the other murders?
Not many. She also said that sometimes it took three or four hours for the players to find the clues and often a day's filming would take 16 hours. If the producers were feeding her tips and clues, the game would be a lot shorter.
It's not like the edited version you see on TV where they are stuck for two minutes and then someone suddenly has a brilliant idea that works. There are several hours of them being stuck.
> If Cris told Kam and Lindsey about Geno taking Giles' cell phone out of the jacket, then Kam and Lindsey did get an "insider" tip as a direct result of Cris being the killer.
Except that there was no actual phone in the jacket at the time. The producers worked that into the plot later and filmed close-ups of Geno taking the phone. Cris never knew about it.
> Cris worked for the producers. So it was as inappropriate for Cris, a paid employee of the producers, to solve the riddles for Kam and Lindsey as it would be for Vanna White to solve a puzzle for a Wheel of Fortune contestant.
Only if Cris knew any of the details, which she said that she didn't. She was playing the game exactly like the regular players. In fact, she said that her best cover was to work hard at solving the puzzles from scratch.
And, it would not be unfair if Vanna helped the players if she truly didn't know any more than they did. She doesn't because that's not part of the game.
> My point is that they should tweak the endgame so that the final players attempt to discover the killer's identity. In other words, make it really a Whodunnit?
That's a complaint I've had all year. And Rob even mentioned something like that on the podcast.
But, they'd have to completely revamp the game to do that. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. It sounds like the show has been renewed, so maybe we'll get to see.
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Except that there was no actual phone in the jacket at the time. The producers worked that into the plot later and filmed close-ups of Geno taking the phone. Cris never knew about it.
Only if Cris knew any of the details, which she said that she didn't.
it would not be unfair if Vanna helped the players if she truly didn't know any more than they did.
> But if the maids helped Kam and Lindsey solve the riddles and make it to the final 4, that would be inappropriate because they work for the producers.
You seem overly hung up on the fact that Cris was a paid employee. The thing is that that fact has nothing to do with the outcome. She was not given any inside information and she played the game exactly as any regular player would have. There is no functional difference between a paid employee that knows nothing and a contestant that knows nothing.
On the podcast, Cris notes that they had lawyers and other watchdogs following every step of production to make sure that everything was fair and conformed to game-show laws. They concluded that no one was given an unfair advantage by the producers.
And, if a pre-planned part of the game was that the maids could help anyone that asked them, that would be a perfectly fair part of the game. Apparently, the rules that they set up was that the maids were not to get involved.
> Even if Vanna White didn't know the answer to the puzzle, it would be inappropriate and unethical for her to help any of the contestants solve a puzzle.
Inappropriate, yes. But, it would not be illegal if it were a stated part of the rules of the game that she could help.
Consider this; would it be inappropriate for a game-show contestant to ask the audience for help? Because I see that happen on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire and The Price is Right all the time.
Also, on WWTBAM, there is an option to ask the producers to remove two wrong answers. If that isn't blatant producer help, I don't know what else is.
The bottom line is that the producers or their employees can help the players as long as that help is equally available to all players. Cris teamed up with the first players that asked her. Ronnie and Geno could have asked her first, but they didn't.
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You seem overly hung up on the fact that Cris was a paid employee.
There is no functional difference between a paid employee that knows nothing and a contestant that knows nothing.
would it be inappropriate for a game-show contestant to ask the audience for help? Because I see that happen on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire and The Price is Right all the time.
The bottom line is that the producers or their employees can help the players as long as that help is equally available to all players. Cris teamed up with the first players that asked her. Ronnie and Geno could have asked her first, but they didn't.
> I'm glad you brought this up. Have you ever seen those contest entries in which the rules say something like "Employees of such-and-such company and their relatives are ineligible to participate"? Be honest. Admit that you have.
Of course I have. But, those rules are not mandated by law. They are put in place for CYA reasons. The company lawyers don't want Ted from shipping to win the $100,000 grand prize and have the rest of the world think that it was an inside job. That would be a PR nightmare.
Also, they don't want Susie from accounting actually try to rig the game so that her husband wins the grand prize.
But, there is no law that requires that employees can't win a company's contest.
> So Cris being a paid employee of the producers does matter.
Only from a PR point of view. People like you will raise a fuss and suggest that the game was unfair because of it.
From an actual gaming point of view, Cris being an employee does not matter at all, as long as we assume that she was not given any information at all related to the game play.
> Because Geno did ask Cris to join their team. After Ulysses was killed and it was Kam, Lindsey, and Cris remaining, Geno offered one of them a chance to join his team and guarantee that they would be Spared that night. Cris refused.
True. But still, Geno did not ask first. He asked Cris to switch teams once alliances had already been formed.
Like The Mole, Cris was probably told not to actively seek an alliance but if people came to her first and asked that she should join them, just like any regular player would. But, she was probably also told that once she agreed to an alliance that she should stick with that alliance until the end.
Kam was just fortunate that he asked Cris first. Geno and Ronnie and Don were all law-related players and they initially figured that they could do this all on their own. Kam figured that he needed a team to get the job done. He was right and he won the game.
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as long as we assume that she was not given any information at all related to the game play
she was probably also told that once she agreed to an alliance that she should stick with that alliance until the end.
Geno and Ronnie and Don were all law-related players
> The producers tipped off Cris on an element of Geno's murder when they told Cris to tell Giles to do the limbo so that Giles would take off his jacket
Yes, they told her to say that, but she wasn't tipped off to any information. On the podcast, they indicated that they were each told to do lots of stuff that was just to move the action along. They could read nothing into it.
Besides, as I said, there was no phone in the jacket at the time for Geno to steal, so Cris couldn't even have known that this non-existant phone that wasn't actually in Giles' jacket was a part of the murder.
> So basically you're saying that the producers, who tipped off Cris on an elemtn of Geno's murder, told Cris not to give any information to anyone except Kam and Lindsey.
Like the Mole before this, that player was told to stick with whomever asked first and play the game as if they were a real player. A real player doesn't openly share information with a rival alliance just because they ask.
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there was no phone in the jacket at the time for Geno to steal
Cris couldn't even have known that this non-existant phone that wasn't actually in Giles' jacket was a part of the murder.
> So when and how did Geno steal Giles' cell phone is probably going to be on the quiz.
Maybe, maybe not. Did you see the quiz? I haven't. How the phone was stolen probably wasn't on the quiz because the producers have said that they added that concept later, after everything had been filmed and edited the footage to look like Geno had stolen it from Giles' jacket.
So, there was nothing for Cris to know at the time.
> But Melina was able to deduce that Ronnie wrote a letter in the library and drank some tea despite the fact that she only went to 1 location.
Good for her. She seems fairly smart and that's how she made it to the final four.
> Like I explained above, Cris has all the information she needed from the 4 facts I stated above to put it together and deduce that Geno stole the cell phone from Giles' jacket when Giles took off his jacket to do the limbo.
And did Cris actually figure that out and tell anyone?
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Maybe, maybe not. Did you see the quiz? I haven't. How the phone was stolen probably wasn't on the quiz because the producers have said that they added that concept later, after everything had been filmed and edited the footage to look like Geno had stolen it from Giles' jacket.
there was nothing for Cris to know at the time.
did Cris actually figure that out and tell anyone?
You are tiring me out.
It is a Federal offense to rig a game show. ABC lawyers and other officials were on hand every moment of the game. They signed off on everything. Nothing the producers did gave anyone any kind of unfair advantage.
It's really that simple.
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You are tiring me out.
It is a Federal offense to rig a game show.
ABC lawyers and other officials were on hand every moment of the game.
Nothing the producers did gave anyone any kind of unfair advantage.
For what it's worth, every cast member was a paid contractor.
For what it's worth, every cast member was a paid contractor.
And those contest rules you speak about sometimes do have tiers in which low ranking workers are still eligible. Their purpose, as someone explained, is optics, because it would look bad if the CEO's wife won the prize.
It doesn't matter that there was no acutal phone in the jacket at the time
1. The producers told Cris to tell Giles to limbo and to take Giles' jacket and give it to Geno.
2. Giles' tells Cris and Melina to go to the morgue themselves because he seems to have lost his cell phone.
If the killer left a note at the last known whereabouts, then the contents of that note is probably going to be on the quiz.
So when and how did Geno stel Giles' cell phone is probably going to be on the quiz.
And Cris has all the information she needs to put it together.
It doesn't take rocket science to deduce that was when Geno stole Giles' cell phone.
Giles' giving her his jacket, and then she gave it to Geno
Thus Cris would know exactly when and how Geno stole Giles' cell phone based on the tip the producers gave her.
And if Cris told Kam and Lindsey when and how Geno stole Giles' cell phone, then she gave them information based on an "insider" tip.
It DOES matter because its a crucial part of your Cris witchhunt.
Kam and Lindsey would have been smart enough to figure that out themself and would need that so called insider tip
Jumping from Geno's murder suddenly to Ronnies doesn't save your stupid theories.
And just to show you how stupid they are and without any actual fact base look at this youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y34QNCCZoOs
The limbo topic comes up at 21:36 and there you see that she was only to tell Giles to limbo. The jacket didn't come up in what the producers said to her and you know from the end of episode 6 and the beginning of episode 7 that she NEVER touched the jacket, which makes your rant about your so called "insider information" totally and utter pointless.
Like I said so many times your just blinded by your unjustified rage against Cris that you make a fool out of your self here in the forum in each and everyone of your rant posts.
Jumping from Geno's murder suddenly to Ronnies doesn't save your stupid theories.
you prooved sh!t
The only thing you prooved is that your still not have any clue...
you prooved sh!t
The only thing you prooved is that your still not have any clue...
I'm trying hard to see your point.
Tell me if this is how you see it:
1) Producers gave tips to Cris.
2) Cris shared tips to players.
3) Players used these tips to do better on the quiz.
The theory lives or dies on whether any of these premises are true. If any one of them is false, the theory is invalid. Personally I don't see evidence for any of the 3.
A player succeeding based on their team is not cheating, nor necessarily unfair.
There's many similar programs that prove that.
'72 Hours' has 3 players to a team, and the team must all touch the final target to win. If one player is useless or gets injured, other players lose.
'Survivor' assigns teams. Some players get put on a team with someone else that's strong or smart or cunning or charming. Their team does well, setting up future advantages for that player.
There's many examples.
A player succeeding based on their team is not cheating, nor necessarily unfair.
'Survivor' assigns teams. Some players get put on a team with someone else that's strong or smart or cunning or charming. Their team does well, setting up future advantages for that player.
I presume you have finally abandoned your earlier allegations that Cris was involved with the jacket now that video evidence confirms what we were trying to tell you?
If so, that means the grand total of an "insider tip" that remains would be that supposedly Cris was told "After Giles tells you to limbo, then you tell him to limbo".
I fail to see how that is a tip of any significance.
And besides, all the cast is in on the limbo scene and have parts to play.
Think about it. The executive producer is unwittingly transparent. Other than for his value as a character, the producer didn't really like Kam or want him to win.
You're alleging that the producer gave the most oblique tip with the least usefulness to someone who might indirectly leak it to a player he's averse to helping and who already witnessed the event first hand anyway?
I presume you have finally abandoned your earlier allegations that Cris was involved with the jacket now that video evidence confirms what we were trying to tell you?
I fail to see how that is a tip of any significance.
all the cast is in on the limbo scene and have parts to play.
Think about it.
the producer didn't really like Kam or want him to win.
You're alleging that the producer gave the most oblique tip with the least usefulness to someone who might indirectly leak it to a player he's averse to helping and who already witnessed the event first hand anyway?
Your just plain stupid and don't see the point we all trying to make you see.
It all boils down to the claim that you cyring about Cris having "insider info".
"Insider info" is only insider info if the info is only known bei those insiders.
The fact is:
[on cam] Giles starts the limbo and asks everyone to limbo
[off cam] Cris complains and doesn't want to limbo
[off cam] The producers say in front of ALL candidates something like: "fine, but tell atleast Giles to limbo"
[on cam] Cris tells Giles to limbo
[on cam] Geno takes Gile's jacket
I ask you WHERE...for god sake WHERE was your so called "insider info" your b1tching about for days?
Everything after you bring up constantly is pointless to that argument about the insider info you constantly claim in your Cris witchhunt.
And the sad thing is you won't get it after this post either...you will still have your tunnel vision and will post a long reply with 90% content you already typed a few times and we already have disputed everytime.
If you are on this level of intelligence go watch "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo", I bet you can learn a lot from that.
WHERE was your so called "insider info" your b1tching about for days?
I said I wouldn't reply to you anymore about your bull$hit BUT I won't let you put words in my mouth either.
You admitted on another thread that the producers put a magnifying glass on the table to help Cris
The scene with Cris and the magnifying glass was probably a reshoot. This show uses vast amounts of pickup shots.
They have a disclaimer for these kind of shows that allows them to use re-enactments as much as they want.
Your whole little b1tchfit is based on the facts that you claimed Cris got clues presented on a silver platter.
Your claims where:
1. Cris was told to tell Giles to limbo
2. Cris was told to get the jacket and give it to Geno
3. therefore Cris knew something was up with the jacket
4. Cris saw Geno take the cellphone because she watched him closely
Now let me analyse those points...
1. Yes Cris was told to tell Giles to limbo, BUT as it turns out she was asked infront of the other contestants during the filming, therefore NO insiderinfo (You can find the info about this in the podcast)
2. Cris never touched the jacket and was never asked
3. Everyone saw Geno take the jacket and everyone was equally not informed about its relevance
4. and now to the point I was making....It makes a difference IF he was taking the mobilephone then and there or if he hasn't
Because if he did it could have been noticed by everyone, if he didn't they had get this information either from the "last known" guy (notepad) or from the morge guy.
You just make more and more a fool of yourself ...
Sadly, this show didn't get renewed, but I wish it did.
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Someone on another post said that this show is due back in 2015, but I don't know how accurate that info is.
Hope that helps you a bit,
~Deb