Blindness is hilarious!
F you, NBC.
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Of course it's not, but a blind guy not letting his blindness limit him (to the point of driving) just might be, depending on how it's handled. Grow up.
sharethank you for getting the entire premise of the show. J.K. Simmons is great in the role.
"I married a witch ... cool" - Ichabod Crane
Blind guy driving? Disturbing.
Blind guy using a chain saw? Very disturbing.
Sighted guy playing the role of a blind guy so that NBC can add it to their list of handicapped characters played by non-handicapped actors e.g.Ironsides. Sadly disturbing.
So the lesson here is that blind people or others with a disability can't act. Except for Michael J Fox who just has poor writers.
DeepFriedJello (Mon Feb 24 2014 14:32:02)Not true. The able bodied actors are portraying a role of having a disability. When possible, a person with the needed 'difference' is indeed hired because then it's not only appeasing to activists but also makes the role more real.
So the lesson here is that blind people or others with a disability can't act. Except for Michael J Fox who just has poor writers.
Cases in point, the show "Switched at Birth" hired deaf people for the deaf roles. Now, while I don't know if this has been followed strictly, for the most part, those who are deaf in the show are deaf in real life. Not only is it a good show, but it helps to bring awareness to what the hearing impaired must put up with when those of us who can hear don't consider their feelings or needs.
Remember the movie, "10 Things I Hate About You?" The actor who played the English/writing teacher (I forget exactly), he was in an accident and is now confined to a wheelchair. A few years later, I saw him in a TV show and I recognized him so I looked up the show to learn more about it and why they had him in that role. That's when I learned that he wasn't acting that part, he really was using it. Point being, he has a disability and he was cast in a role.
So there's no "lesson" here, at least not one you are coming up with. For this show, I believe it's better that he can see, because then he can perform certain scenes that require him to see while pretending that he can't. share
Cases in point, the show "Switched at Birth" hired deaf people for the deaf roles. Now, while I don't know if this has been followed strictly, for the most part, those who are deaf in the show are deaf in real life. Not only is it a good show, but it helps to bring awareness to what the hearing impaired must put up with when those of us who can hear don't consider their feelings or needs.
Actually, the lead is hard of hearing, not deaf and some members of the deaf community complained about this when the show first aired. share
bexn (Tue Feb 25 2014 22:07:43)Notice that I said "for the most part" and didn't say "everyone." Though I will admit that when the show first came out and I looked up information, I was under the impression that she was either completely deaf or almost completely deaf (ie, some very limited hearing). I just looked her up again and see that she didn't experience hearing loss until her late teens or early 20's (diagnosed at 20).
Actually, the lead is hard of hearing, not deaf and some members of the deaf community complained about this when the show first aired.
What I read before may have been written based on assumptions or misunderstandings about her past. Wouldn't surprise me if someone read about her having hearing loss and then saying that she's deaf. share
I apologize; it seems that I didn't do a very good job of making my point and that's on me. I wasn't trying to make a point about you being wrong about everyone being deaf but a point that hiring from within a community doesn't necessarily make activists happy. In this case, some complained that she wasn't deaf enough to play the role. I don't believe this is an issue anymore. From what I can tell (which is admittedly limited to the people I know within this community) the show and the actress have been embraced.
Sadly, I've heard similar complaints about other roles — someone is not "enough" of something to be considered "good enough" for the role by the community being represented. I'm not saying that you shouldn't try to find someone from within the represented community but I'm also not saying that it's always appropriate to only hire from within the represented community. All I'm trying to say is that it's difficult to please everyone when you're trying to find the right person for the part.
bexn (Wed Mar 12 2014 12:48:03)I've been trying to find someone to fill the role of my goddess. However, if I kidnap one, it won't please her or family/friends and I'm sure the authorities won't be pleased either. If I don't kidnap one, then I'm not pleased. No win situation. (I'm kidding about kidnapping someone, obviously.) share
All I'm trying to say is that it's difficult to please everyone when you're trying to find the right person for the part.
I've been trying to find someone to fill the role of my goddess. However, if I kidnap one, it won't please her or family/friends and I'm sure the authorities won't be pleased either. If I don't kidnap one, then I'm not pleased. No win situation. (I'm kidding about kidnapping someone, obviously.)
LOL. Thank you for the good laugh. And yes, I think a lot of times these roles become no win situations, which is unfortunate. share
Deep Fried,
It appears the entire premise of this series escaped you.
What was shown was that this particular blind man, with help, WAS able to safely do the things mentioned. That's what made these things funny.
Your second gripe seems to be that only a blind actor should be hired to play a blind character. I guess only a Jewish person should be hired to portray a Jewish person, and only a Catholic priest should be hired to play a Catholic priest, and only a person with a stammer should be hired to play someone who speaks with a stammer.
ACTORS, my friend, possess skills to let them play people who are not just like them.
Good thing you didn't live in Shakespeare's time. You would have hated going to any play because all the female characters were played by men.
FlushingCaps (Tue Feb 25 2014 07:29:02)Good thing too, would hate to think someone would kill themselves just to play the role of a dead person. All those aliens you see in movies, they weren't played by real aliens. Only exception to that rule is Robin Williams when he played Mork in "Mork and Mindy." He got the part because he was the only alien to audition for the role.
Your second gripe seems to be that only a blind actor should be hired to play a blind character. I guess only a Jewish person should be hired to portray a Jewish person, and only a Catholic priest should be hired to play a Catholic priest, and only a person with a stammer should be hired to play someone who speaks with a stammer.
ACTORS, my friend, possess skills to let them play people who are not just like them.
FlushingCaps (Tue Feb 25 2014 07:29:02)Burn! :D share
Good thing you didn't live in Shakespeare's time. You would have hated going to any play because all the female characters were played by men.
only a person with a stammer should be hired to play someone who speaks with a stammer.
That would be hilarious. Like a stammerer politician who runs for President. The whole show could be about the campaign, and how all the staff members laugh at him behind his back. share
it's too bad there isn't a device ... you know, maybe a little bigger than a cell phone with buttons on it, takes batteries and such, that would allow you to change the channel. well, i guess you're just stuck watching when it comes on. maybe one day someone will invent something which will allow you to change the channel since that obviously is your ultimate best solution.
"I married a witch ... cool" - Ichabod Crane
kassandra227 (Wed Feb 26 2014 13:02:57)As much as I love the point you're trying to make, you went about it the wrong way. Should have gone with the idea of "Too bad there aren't other options for what to watch." As for changing the channel, could just go up to the TV and do that. The remote control jab only works if there's some reason that they can't go to the TV to do it. share
it's too bad there isn't a device ... you know, maybe a little bigger than a cell phone with buttons on it, takes batteries and such, that would allow you to change the channel. well, i guess you're just stuck watching when it comes on. maybe one day someone will invent something which will allow you to change the channel since that obviously is your ultimate best solution.
i went about it in the exact way it was deserved. it's just a shame you can't understand when someone is making a point obvious. the very real deal about it is if you don't like it, change the channel. that is, unless all you want to do is whine and and bitch.
no, my point was dead on. you just will eternally refuse to admit it because it made you look like a fool.
"I married a witch ... cool" - Ichabod Crane
kassandra227 (Thu Mar 27 2014 03:42:34)Didn't make me look like a fool, made you look like one. I agree with the part of "if you don't like it then change the channel." Just the remote control jab only works if the person is unable or unwilling to get up and change the channel on the TV, but they don't want to watch what is on.
i went about it in the exact way it was deserved. it's just a shame you can't understand when someone is making a point obvious. the very real deal about it is if you don't like it, change the channel. that is, unless all you want to do is whine and and bitch.
no, my point was dead on. you just will eternally refuse to admit it because it made you look like a fool.
Example: I hate this how but I'm too tired to go over to the TV to change the channel. (Reference to a remote control works perfect here.)
But if the person has the remote in hand and knows how to use it but choose not to, then that's when a play on the fact that there are other channels available is the jab to use.
Obviously, if you reply, you're going to still insist that you had it right even though you didn't. But I've explained it to you very clearly and if you can't see the difference, then that's not my fault. But I am correct about this. share
Someone telling me what the inner motives are of other people. Insanely disturbing.
Might I suggest limiting yourself to getting offended by stuff that actually affects you? It will free up a lot of your day.
if you don't like it, change the channel ... it really is just that simple.
"I married a witch ... cool" - Ichabod Crane
Watched the pilot. Could not laugh at a single joke. Worst comedy attempt I've ever seen.
"Clever people will recognize and tolerate nothing but cleverness."
Except not really.
Another person offended at something. This is my shocked face.
It's a sitcom..not an oscar worthy docudrama...I pity those that find offense so easily. How sad and cynical their lives must be. There's a time and a place and to take offense at the most trivial only lessens the due outrage when real offense is warranted!
shareLet me guess, you are a guilt ridden white liberal who is sighted, without either a family member or close friend that is blind.
My father was blind and he would have found this series very funny (hilarious). He would not have cared if the actor playing the blind person was sighted or blind, just that he fit the part.
You folks need to lighten up and enjoy life (and let the rest of us do so also).
Actors can play people other than themselves. That's why they are called actors. Being offended for absurd reasons does not make you more sensitive or a better person.
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