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Was Lightfields haunted before Lucy's death?.


I remember in episode 1 when Pip couldn't sleep, he mentions something about being scared of "Hitler", Lucy responds to Pip saying that "Hitler doesn't exist", does that not strike anyone else as an odd reply, both Lucy and Pip know that Hitler does exist!, as its 1944 at that time, a year before war ended and a year before Hitler died, both their remarks seem quite similar to how Luke refers to Lucy in 2012 as "The tooth fairy", Could it be possible that in 1944 Lightfields also had a ghost, but a Malevolent one?, thus it would make sense that Pip calls it Hitler, and could it mean that if an evil entity existed could it have influenced someone to begin the fire at the barn?.


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i find it more likely that pip was having a nightmare about hitler, coz of it being the war. lucy as his sister didn't want him being scared or worried so replied that hitler didn't exist. i dont think lightfields had a ghost before lucy, there wasn't anything that showed that. in fact, even when lucy died, she didn't haunt them whilst pip was still there as a kid, she should of showed herself to him as he was young so he would of seen her, and he thought he killed her. she only started appearing once viv moved in.
i think viv was in a way more guilty than tom was, as she stood and watched lucy burn, she didn't try and help or run for help, she just walked away singing. im surprised lucy wasn't more angry with her. although she didn't even end up haunting tom who was actually the guilty one.

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I enjoyed this collective cast a great deal.

But the story left me a bit flummoxed. Disclaimer: Am not one who need things tied in tidy bundles either.

So what was Lucy's game? Was she vengeful? Helpful wanting to show Pip he was not to blame? What kind of ghost was she? All of the above?

As someone said, she did not seem entirely vengeful toward Vivien, though was driving her to suicide, which Tom and her daughter stopped. But once Vivien confronted her at the fire site that seemed to be it.

But Lucy was horribly vengeful by doing in the airman who blithely dismissed her with "I'm married" treating her like a silly cow.

Even when she stood in the road to try to cause an accident killing the boy and his dad, it was posed she was trying to stop his car speeding, not kill the boy. So in one case she causes a road mishap and kills; but in the other she saves? HUH?

So I was left utterly confused by what Lucy was up to? Vengeance? Protection? What?

Pip was convinced she was trying to destroy his great grandson from vengeance. But then we learn from Vivien Tom was to blame.

It does seem though that Lucy never targeted Tom...because she was asleep when he torched the place and she never saw him there. Though once dead wouldn't Lucy have been "All knowing."

Guess I confuse too easily. But I'm mightily confused. Whereas with "Marchlands" it was very straightforward and powerful.

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yeah im with u on all of that. some things just didn't make sense.
i mean she did seem to be haunting viv in a mean way, i mean writing "scary" notes on her typewriter in the middle of the night, counting and playing hide and seek with her and haunting her in the barn. its enough to drive anyone mad, and like u said she drove her to suicide, she didn't do anything to stop her taking the pills, she started a fire in the kitchen when viv got a drink, she did seem obsessed with fire, obviously coz thats how she died, but it makes u think she was haunting them in a mean way coz she kept starting fire in 2012 with pip, she made luke start fires and she made those photos burst into flames. im not sure how thats meant to tell them they didn't kill her, surely that says they did start the fire and she's mad about it. she could of written them notes saying ur not to blame, instead of im coming for u ready or not. thats a pretty freaky message in anyones standards.
she did cause the airman to crash and im pretty sure to die, just coz he had a wife, what was she going to do, kill everyone who ever had an affair, they wouldn't be anyone left in the world.
luke seemed to be able to see her coz being so young he would be innocent enough to see ghosts, which is why i dont understand why lucy didn't show her ghost to young pip, i mean they stayed living there for a while after her death, maybe up to a year, yet nothing seemed to happen ghost wise in that time, she was obviously around then coz showed herself to the airman, so why not haunt her house and younger "guilty" brother. it all seemed to start once older viv moved in, but why, why did it take for her to move in to awake the ghost, if viv didn't kill her. i mean she couldn't even remember what happened in the olden days, she had no idea who lucy even was, so her guilt was obviously buried really really deep so im surprised it even made itself known.
she seemed to haunt everyone, even luke's dad by showing herself to him in the road, but she didn't haunt tom, the one person who was guilty, at the end she showed herself whilst he was looking at the writing on her bedroom door, but then she disappeared once he turned round, why didn't she haunt him, she made other people mad and even drove one to attempt suicide, and killed her lover, but she leaves the guilty person alone. just doesn't make sense.
i know tom didn't know she was in the barn, but he still started the fire, and he must of carried that guilt around all his life like the other people, and he was the only one of them who stayed in that area forever, the rest of them moved away, he stayed put so she should of been haunting him all his life. the others didn't do anything wrong but felt guilty, he did do it and felt guilty, yet they were haunted and he wasn't.
unless thats what lucy was trying to get across, she was haunting the others trying to tell them they didn't do it, coz she wanted to lift there guilt, whereas she didn't haunt tom coz he deserved to feel guilty. but she could of haunted him in a bad way.

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Very well reasoned, Lucy. Just one point, though. Although the strong implication is that she did cause the death of the airman I think I'm right in saying that she did not appear (to the TV audience) at that point. He just seemed to lose control of the motorbike then. No doubt we were supposed to assume that she was responsible but as she appeared in every other instance I'm surprised that she did not then.

Incidentally, no doubt I'm being pedantic here but it's "could have", not "could of".

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yeah, the camera did seem to look away just as he crashed, then as he was lying in the road, he turned his head and saw lucy standing there, then it looked like he died. so i guess the audience was meant to think she appeared first and that was why he crashed, especially when she appeared in the road in front of the car which luke and his dad were in.

all in all it was a good show but there were a few unanswered questions and a few confusing things.

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I've given up on the 'could of' replacing 'could have'. I see it so often now I think it's becoming standard usage. Kind of like the french Rue du Roi in Hyde Park got bastardized over the centuries until it became known as Rotten Row.

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I've given up on the 'could of' replacing 'could have'. I see it so often now I think it's becoming standard usage.

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