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the story seemed to say that Verity Lambert created Doctor Who


I thought the creator of Doctor Who was Sydney Newman

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Did you miss the first part where Newman was giving Lambert the outline for the show, and then later when he was pointing out what she did wrong with the first episode?

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It was very much a love letter to Lambert. According to this, she invented feminism as well as Dr Who AND she led the fight against racism (got an Asian guy a drink in the BBC bar).

She deserves a lot of credit for her whole career but I don't think this movie made any secret of the fact that this was a fictionalised bio.



Awight we're The Daamned we're a punk baand and this is called Carn't Be Appy T'day!

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she invented feminism as well as Dr Who AND she led the fight against racism (got an Asian guy a drink in the BBC bar).

That was more to show that the BBC staff were behind the times and out of touch with the wave of younger people who were starting in the business.

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It was very much a love letter to Lambert. According to this, she invented feminism as well as Dr Who AND she led the fight against racism (got an Asian guy a drink in the BBC bar).

She deserves a lot of credit for her whole career but I don't think this movie made any secret of the fact that this was a fictionalised bio.


Typical BBC whitewashing of the past. at this time segregation would mean Warris hussien wouldn't even be allowed into the BBC Tavern, let alone order drinks.

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I don't think there was "segregation" in Britain - racism and ignorance for sure, and I have no doubt that certain licensees refused to serve people of colour or certain nationalities, but it wasn't enshrined in legislation as "segregation" seems to imply. In fact there was a huge anti-racism movement (or "anti-racialism" as it would have been called then) too, it just didn't have the clout of law that exists today.


Awight we're The Daamned we're a punk baand and this is called Carn't Be Appy T'day!

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There was slavery.

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she invented feminism as well as Dr Who AND she led the fight against racism (got an Asian guy a drink in the BBC bar).

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That was more to show that the BBC staff were behind the times and out of touch with the wave of younger people who were starting in the business.


I find it ironic that one of the themes was that Lambert blazed a trail for women, yet Dr Who for its first 30-40 years famously used female actors as people who got into trouble, screamed a lot and had to be bailed out by the men.

And I never had a problem with that - it was a frothy confection, not a polemic - but when Modern Who tries to make a statement like this it's on shaky ground.




Awight we're The Daamned we're a punk baand and this is called Carn't Be Appy T'day!

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That is one reason the story failed. It tried to modernize an historical event.

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Failed who? You? Everyone I know loved it and every review I've heard was positive.

In the kingdom of the blind, you're the village idiot.

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Did you actually watch the movie? They show Sydney Newman creating almost all of the major concepts for Doctor Who, including the character's name, his basic description, the concept of a time and space machine which is bigger on the inside, the role of the companion, the basic premise of traveling to different historical eras and worlds. About all they show Verity Lambert doing is casting William Hartnell


Unless Alpert's covered in bacon grease, I don't think Hugo can track anything.

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