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Bellamy- Character Development


So I'm just beginning this series. I lost count of episodes, but I am in the first season and I just watched the episode that included Bellamy and Octavia's back story. All along, Bellamy was a sweet, kind hearted boy and then man. He even became a cadet for law enforcement. And what he did, hiding his sister, is what got him put in their jail system, not at all a violent crime. He even looked hesitant when asked to kill Jaha, almost like he really didn't want to do it, clearly.

What I didn't get was the persona he put forth once they arrived on earth. He was suddenly ruthless, lawless, sexually promiscuous, having a threesome at one point. That seems like a very significant character change.... I get it, he's trying to protect himself by not wanting the Ark to know they survived, otherwise he'd get busted for shooting Jaha. But still- some of those other personality traits just don't add up at all. I'm starting to see a shift in him now though, and I'm guessing that he will change once again, which is why he's listed by so many people, as a favorite character! I didn't get it at first because I wanted him dead for being such a stinkin douche! But I'm seeing the change now....

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I'm a big Bellamy fan as are several other people here. However, there are also people who hate him with a passion. As you say, we see from his back story that he was originally a kind, good-hearted person who loved his sister even though he was forced to take a lot of responsibility for her from an early age due to his mother's selfishness. When Octavia was discovered, she was put in prison, their mother was floated (executed), and he lost his job as a cadet and was made a lowly janitor (he wasn't put in jail). This made him bitter and resentful particularly as it was his fault she was found.

When they arrived on Earth, I suppose he became the leader by default because he was 5 or 6 years older than anyone else. Maybe the power went to his head. However I still don't think he was that bad - for example, he couldn't manage to kill Atom who was suffering and he tried to help Charlotte. You say he suddenly became promiscuous - well maybe everyone on the Ark was like that anyway and threesomes weren't unusual!

He becomes much more of a hero in season 2. Then in season 3 ..... well I'll leave you to find out what happens.

The anti-Bellamy brigade will now come along and tell you that he's 100% evil with no redeeming qualities and deserves to die a slow, painful death.

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HA HA HA HA! Your response was excellent and it gave me a chuckle with your last sentence! HA HA!

Ok, I will hang tight and will wait to see how he develops further. I didn't realize that he was so much older until I saw his back story- so it makes even more sense now, how he assumed (somewhat) the role of leader, along with Clarke. She seems to be made of more leadership qualities and seems to inspire more than instill fear in the others. She also seems extremely smart and also street-smart, for lack of a better term. But I digress, yes, now knowing his back story, his hesitation in ending Atom's suffering and helping Charlotte makes more sense because that's more of the personality he exhibited on the Ark.

And you're right, who knows what the culture, including sexual activities, was truly like on the Ark, I sure don't! Good point!

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You say he suddenly became promiscuous - well maybe everyone on the Ark was like that anyway and threesomes weren't unusual!


Probably not so sudden, I mean, what else is there to do when you're stuck on the ARK?

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it's my old friend! and yes, I hate him with a passion. will say no more. And what the OP describe is Bellamy throughout the series, one minute it seems like he's a nice guy trying to do good and the next minute he's a raging, murderous *beep* But hey, he says he's sorry for his actions so it always makes it all right.. Nah, killing 300 innocent people and being a xenophobic *beep* is perfectly acceptable. He deserves sunshine and puppies.

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spoilers. OP is only on S1

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Thanks! I saw this mesg first because it's so short- I know, stay off social media if you haven't seen all the episodes. But alas- at least now I know not to continue reading this thread.

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It's better to binge watch all the episodes first so you don't get spoiled. You can always take up discussions on the board later when you're fully updated (needless to say with more opinions).

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No worries haha I'm glad you saw my message first 

Bellamy's character development is a pretty polarizing topic post-S3 so it's probably best if you don't read the rest of the discussion on here til you're done

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But hey, he says he's sorry for his actions so it always makes it all right..


I don't buy 'he's sorry for his actions'. He's only sorry he hurt Octavia's feelings and that's it. If there's no Octavia beating some sense into him, I doubt he would be aware of a shred of wrongfulness of what he's done.

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I feel like this topic has been beaten to death. Let it die already.

I don't buy 'he's sorry for his actions'. He's only sorry he hurt Octavia's feelings and that's it. If there's no Octavia beating some sense into him, I doubt he would be aware of a shred of wrongfulness of what he's done.


Except for confronting and confessing to Pike but mainly to himself that he was wrong and now he has to live with it.

Pike: It wasn't the wrong side. If the Grounder army was still there when Lexa died, they would have attacked. And you know it.

Bellamy: I wanted to see things like you. I needed that. To believe that they were bad, and we were good. I don't know what I believe anymore. I just know I have to live with what I've done.


He also talked to Octavia about how he (because of grief and anger) let his need for revenge take him down the wrong path and that he doesn't want that for her.

Bellamy: O, Listen to me. I know how you feel. I let my need for revenge put me on the wrong side. I don't want that for you.


He knows he was wrong and is clearly showing remorse and now he has to find a way to live with what he has done. He is already changing the way he's thinking and knowing that he was wrong and is now actively trying to change (like with the non-lethal force approach for example and moving away from "us vs them") is progression, that's character growth, that's learning from his mistakes, and I think we will be seeing more of that in the next season. He's on the right path and is quickly moving up, whereas his sister is taking a turn for the worse and her fall is going to be hard with her killing sprees in season 4. It's going to be interesting to see if she's able to climb out of the dark pit like her brother did?

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Thanks for posting those quotes. I can't understand why people keep saying that he hasn't shown any remorse.

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I can't understand why people keep saying that he hasn't shown any remorse.


I don't know either honestly, because the narrative is pretty clear on his remorse. But some people are extremely hateful, borderline obsessive, toward Bellamy for some weird reason, that they pretty much ignore the narrative for their own fantasies. I'm not talking about the people who dislikes his character because that's fine, like I dislike Clarke, but there are people whose Bellamy hate are extreme and obsessive and that's a bit worrisome.

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As if I started it.
If you wanted it die, you'd let it die already.

You're missing the point of what I said.
Bellamy feels bad only because his revenge took a toll on Octavia who he really cares and whose grief is able to shake his core belief.

Bellamy said "I don't know what I believe anymore.", which sounds more he's still confused and didn't have the courage to tell Pike he was wrong to his face because it would also mean himself was wrong from the get go.
As a matter of fact, how he feels doesn't even matter. There are some lines that can't be crossed in many stories because the nature of the sin is too grave for a character to be redeemed. That's what happened to Finn and he paid for what he did, and so shall Bellamy. Without paying anything, all the words are nothing but air.

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That's your opinion. The narrative is pretty clear on his remorse outside of Octavia. He confessed to Clarke "what do you do when you realize that you're not the good guy?" and it had to do with what went down with Pike. He knows it was wrong to take revenge because of anger and grief over the death of his girlfriend and his people. His mind is already changing, it might still be confusing to him because change occurs gradually, not all at once! I would be surprised if it wasn't confusing. In reality neither the Grounders, nor the Sky People, are good people, so coming back to Clarke's words to him: "Maybe there are no good guys!" and that's really it, because in s3a his grief-stricken, angry, broken and unhinged and out for revenge mind wanted/needed to believe in Sky People=good and Grounders=bad and he needed to protect his people from the bad, when it's really not that simple, so now it's about rewiring so to speak, to move away from that mindset that was fueled by hate, distrust, grief and anger, hence his "I don't know what I believe anymore" to Pike. He's actively trying to change his way of thinking, his mindset, his actions and that's what the narrative is showing/telling us.

It doesn't really matter what you think and if you're waiting for something similar happening to Bellamy like what happened to Finn - death by Clarke: knife to heart! - not sure what to tell you man, but I don't think that will ever happen! I doubt there will be much of a trial and punishment (because he carried out the chancellors orders and it was the people who voted for Pike but he did commit treason when he handed over the chancellor to the Grounders and ended Pike's rule) once they're back in Arcadia, because they do have more pressing matters like THE WORLD IS GOING TO END IN A FEW MONTHS. But I mean, who knows? There will most likely be another vote for Chancellor, so I think that Kane will be reelected and I'm not sure how he will handle Bellamy and Octavia.

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Of course it's my opinion as all yours being said.
It's wrong to kill innocent people.
It's wrong to kill people who're sent to protect them while they're sleeping.
It's wrong he hurt Octavia's feelings.
It's wrong Lincoln died as an outcome of him aiding Pike.
It's wrong he's comsumed by revenge to kill the wrong people instead of the muderers responsible for his girlfriend's death.
He is wrong, which is a vague concept that can never be known which one he meant. If you don't understand why people not buying he's truly sorry for the lives lost caused by him, here's the explanation.

No need to be rude telling whose opinion matters and whose doesn't.
I'm fairly judging a character based on how he's written and what he should deserve in comparsion with another character committing similar crime.
It's called writing consistency.
If the story can't offer the proper answer why he's not punished, you can't be surprised for people finding it's hard to swallow down the privilege a character has only because "he's the leading actor".

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Honestly, no one on this show is innocent. The narrative is clearly telling us that "there are no good guys!" and others have done equally terrible things. People are somehow, for whatever dodgy (internalized) reason, holding him to a different standard than the rest. For some people, it's because of some silly shipping war.

This is not a show about puppies, unicorns and rainbows and none of these characters, dead or alive, are precious cinnamon rolls. They are all murderers and have all done wrong, yet most of them somehow still breathes. The narrative is showing us they are capable of changing and that's acceptable to most fans.

So, be it as it may a hard pillow for you to swallow but Bellamy is still here for another season. Beyond next season, who knows, he might sacrifice himself in the s4 finale to save everyone's lives? It's your right to question things sure, but there is no reason for you to ignore the narrative.

Also, remember how the Grounders murdered babies with deformities because of ignorance, are they punished for the crime of murdering innocent babies? Nah

But Bellamy is the worst and needs to die, right...ok, gotcha.

So just out of curiosity, what's your opinion on Octavia, who murdered out of grief and revenge and next season she will become an assassin and go on killing sprees?

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Who says unicorns and rainbows? 
Different takes on narration isn't ignoring...
"there are no good guys" is true in terms of killing.
Killing for survival, killing for self-defense, killing for revenge, sure, as long as killing the deserved, all is above is somehow justifiable.
What's Bellamy's excuse then? Who is the one holding Bellamy to a different standard than the others?
It's you have to deal with the opinions of those who are not playing favoritism towards Bellamy because if you don't, more and more frustration you're gonna encounter in your way and spinning is not gonna get you anywhere.

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Excuses? I'm not talking about excuses, I'm talking about reasons why people act the way they do when they are under tremendous stress, both internal (emotional, psychological) and external (outside threat and terrors).

Bellamy wanted first and foremost to protect his people. That's in the narrative, what has always concerned him the most throughout the seasons. He wanted them to be safe from the constant threats of grounders attacking them. That was his reason for siding with Pike because he didn't trust them because they had betrayed them twice already. There's a deleted scene where Bellamy is voicing, to Octavia, his distrust in them (Indra, Trikru, grounders) for betraying and abandoning them in Mt.Weather to die and he said the only grounder he trusted was Lincoln because he's different/he stood up for the sky people and refused to abandon them, exactly what Pike (after having listening in to their conversation) used to get Bellamy's support.

Bellamy was not privy to what was going on in Polis, he didn't know about the discussions with Lexa, about what Clarke was doing/working toward. It was not some irrational hate and distrust on his part, Bellamy had legit fears and doubts when it came to the grounders. Some argue that his anger and hurt was misdirected, but that's not true. His distrust in them was not crazy, his anger was not crazy, his hurt was not crazy. He could have found another outlet for his anger and hurt, because the Echo betrayal and Clarke choosing to stay in Polis devastated him and he wanted to give up, but Pike knew the right things to say to get the reaction he wanted, to fuel the hurt, anger, self-loathing, guilt and distrust that was already there so he intentionally and wrongly put the blame on Bellamy for the deaths of Gina and their people because he knew Bellamy was already thinking it..."if you hadn't trusted her, trusted them...".

Bellamy wanted his people safe, to protect them against the threat of a grounder army camped outside of their home, an army who refused to let them go looking for supplies when they were running dangerously low on food. They were on house arrest, they were starving and left in the dark with what was going on, apparently to keep them safe. Still, it's not exactly a comforting thought to have a grounder army of 299 trained and seasoned warriors/killers camped outside the gates, especially to someone like Bellamy, in an already fragile state of mind. How can they be sure about their safety if the Commander who rules over the clans (and therefor is her responsibility) can't control her own people? How can they be certain the army won't attack them the moment they displeases her, or she changes her mind (she betrayed them once already)? How can they be sure of their safety when the clans are fighting each other for power and are using the sky people to further their agenda?

All of this are legit reasons for concerns, it's no excuse. Honestly, it's not hard to understand the reasoning behind the actions, but that doesn't make it right, just like how abandoning them at Mt.Weather wasn't right and because of that Clarke, Bellamy and Monty was forced to do something terrible that has left them scarred/suffering PTSD; just like how allowing the bomb drop on TonDC without warning the people wasn't right and because of it over 250 men, women and children died; just like how committing genocide of the Mt.Weather people wasn't right and because of it 382 men, women and children died; just like how killing 299 sleeping warriors on the field wasn't right. All of them terrible decisions. It was done with the intention to protect and save their people. It may seem irrational to sane people, but in their warped minds, they're at war. How you want to justify those things are your business, but not everyone has to agree with you that Bellamy deserves death.

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I love how you constantly blame Lexa for everything but somehow Bellamy's actions is always excused. At least Lexa always, ALWAYS chose the path for trying to save her people. The only time she DIDN'T was letting the missle strike TonDC and even THAT was done for the greater good, but it isn't like she fired the damn thing. Other than Mount Weather, EVERYTHING BELLAMY has done has been for purely selfish reasons or to "protect" Octavia - which again was for his own reasons. I don't know why I'm posting on this board or even here today, so I'm leaving again because it hasn't gotten better since I left it a few months ago.

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I love how you constantly blame Lexa for everything but somehow Bellamy's actions is always excused. At least Lexa always, ALWAYS chose the path for trying to save her people. The only time she DIDN'T was letting the missle strike TonDC and even THAT was done for the greater good, but it isn't like she fired the damn thing. Other than Mount Weather, and for the last time there is no moral equivalence to killing everyone in Mount Weather (who spent 100 yrs killing and draining grounders, was killing all the arkers, destroyed a village of 250 people with a missile - but wait, that's Lexa and Clarke's fault so let's not blame Mount Weather for THAT) to slaughtering 300 people, who did nothing to you, IN THEIR SLEEP!!!

EVERYTHING BELLAMY has done has been for purely selfish reasons or to "protect" Octavia - which again was for his own reasons. I don't know why I'm posting on this board or even here today, so I'm leaving again because it hasn't gotten better since I left it a few months ago.

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Not blaming anyone here, all I said was that they have all made terrible decisions (negative actions) when they're under tremendous stress because ultimately it comes down to basic instinct of survival, wanting to protect and save their people.

The only reason why I left out the mountain men is because I thought it was obvious to everyone that they are the villains and entirely to blame for firing the damn missile because they fired the damn missile.

Lexa and Clarke chose not to warn the people once they found out about the missile.

Abby to Clarke: "Their blood is on your hands. And, even if we win, I'm afraid you won't be able to wash it off this time."


That's the narrative wanting us to question if it was worth the sacrifice, perhaps the outcome doesn't justify the means? Now they are all facing questions like: "After everything we have done, do we even deserve to live?", that's going to be a thing for season 4, but the theme is HOPE, so it might just turn out that they do deserve life.

Both Bellamy and Clarke has been repeatedly punished throughout the seasons by the narrative and they have suffered the consequences because of negative actions (whether by their own hands or by the actions of others). What some people seem to overlook is that both Clarke and Bellamy share that trait of accepting guilt for any and all bad things that happen to people they care for (whether by their own hands or by the actions of others).

I don't agree at all with your opinion about Bellamy doing things to protect and save his people, like going into the mountain or rescuing Fox from certain swift death, because of selfish reasons, but then again some people villainize and demonize him for having the selfish audacity to being born, to selfishly breathe (suck up) everyone else's air, to selfishly stealing precious screen time from their fave characters (he should know better, so damn selfish!), so no surprise there...

Bellamy is probably one of the least selfish characters on the damn show (doesn't mean he can't make mistakes), others are Wells, Lincoln, Gina, Maya, Monty...oh man, the odds are against Monty and Bellamy! 

We're never going to agree when it comes to the characters and their actions because it's almost as if we all have different perspectives and emotional baggage that informs our preferences and how we interpret situations and how those things shape our actions. Imagine having a show with that put on the screen. Oh wait.

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Not to mention in the Raven/ALIE episode he REPEATEDLY said he didn't regret anything. Jasper even called him out on it.

It wasn't until the very end when Alie said those things to him and Niylah followed up by saying he killed her father did he show an OUNCE of remorse - by throwing a tantrum like the goddamn, murderous spoiled baby he is. And even after that he didn't say he was sorry, all he said to Clarke was "Maybe there aren't any bad guys," and she just agreed.

When in this situation he CLEARLY WAS the *beep* bad guy and he didn't even cop to it. So don't give us this *beep* about how he showed remorse for his actions he clearly didn't. he may be "living with it," but he doesn't think he did anything wrong.

He also only wanted to help Octavia because he hurt HER and Kane was going to be Executed. He DIDN'T GIVE A *beep* about the innocent grounders that Pike locked up and was going to kill. People who were INVITED into Arkadia to get healthcare!

He DIDN'T CARE that Lincoln was killed, since he's the one who locked him and turned on a man who had done nothing but love his *beep* sister and tried to be his friend. Lincoln even TRAINED Bellamy, but none of that mattered. He is still responsible for Lincoln being locked and and executed. You can't wash that or explain that away. YOU JUST CAN'T!

That's when I stopped watching the season because it was utterly stupid that he NEVER gets any blowback for his actions. All he has to do is say "I'm sorry" and everything is magically forgiven. Yet they constantly rag on Clarke for saving their *beep* lives.

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And even that was done in a *beep* way, when all he did was say to Clarke "Maybe there aren't any bad guys," and she just agreed.


Umm, no, that was Clarke saying it to Bellamy. Bellamy said: "What do you do when you realize you (meaning himself) might not be the good guy?" and Clarke said: "Maybe there are no good guys!" So what I got from that scene was Clarke in a nonjudgemental way comforting and reassuring Bellamy, because she can relate to his feelings of guilt and remorse and being the "bad guy", because she's done some *beep* up things as well.

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Exactly. He DIDN'T DESERVE blanket comfort nor forgiveness especially not from Clarke and with that phrase. He did NOTHING to earn it! That's the POINT!

I think that was a stupid thing for her to say after Mount Weather anyway because she just ignores EVERYTHING Mount Weather spent a hundred years doing and act like they were a bunch of innocent people that she slaughtered when as Maya said no one in that mountain was innocent. Again they didn't care about bleeding and murdering grounders, some of the mountain men ONLY cared that they were killing Arkers because they were like them.

That's the problem with this stupid show that only ARKERs matter! No one else's life seems to hold the same weight.

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Not sure what to tell you, I'm just telling you what she said.

However, I don't think that Maya meant to include the little mountain children because they are innocents. They didn't know what was going on, there was about 30 little children that was killed in the genocide.

The ARKERS mattered more to the mountain people because they discovered that their blood had a higher tolerance of radiation (or something like that, can't quite remember the explanation right now) because they were space born than the grounders which meant they had no more use of reapers to capture grounders for their harvest program, nor any more use of grounders, so the next stage was bone marrow transplant for a permanent fix.

I mean, the ARKERS would have gladly donated the marrow. Kane offered them a better way out by donations instead of mercilessly drilling into them and killing them in the process because how much marrow do you need for a transplant?

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Unfortunately, they did say that they would need to extract enough marrow from all of the captured arckers to cure the mountain people and in turn- that would kill each arcker. So, yah... Unless they agreed to a slow process to allow the arckers time to recoup before donating again, they were gonna just suck them dry of marrow until they all died.

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No he looked at Lincoln as a friend. The deleted scene shows that. He tried to help rescue him, but he was chained. He felt remorse, he still may not fully trust the grounders, why should he? but he sees Pikes side is no better. He deserves the chance to prove himself and Im sure he will do that. He knows he was wrong, and owns it, that is the difference with him, he will work to earn redemption but will not forgive himself.

Funny how everyone on the show has made bad choices, and killed , but people wont look at that, look at Kane on the ark , how ruthless he was, he tried to float Abby and pushed for the culling, Jaha murdered the kid in the boat, Murphy murdered Connors and Miles, crippled Raven, Clarke and Lexa didn't warn the people about the bomb.. all they do is diss Bellamy when he thought the Army would attack and kill his people. Lets see what happens in S4..

Bellamy is a great character, and the show would be boring without him and Octavia as the only siblings.

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They really screwed him up in season 3. I hated Bellamy in season 1. In season 2 I thought he was such a cool character: smart, brave, compassionate, etc. Then came season 3 and he went downhill from there. It's hard to come back from murdering 299 innocent grounders. Granted it wasn't just him and Bellamy was convinced that the grounders were preparing to attack their home. Pike basically poisoned him with his paranoia. But I feel as if Bellamy should have known better than to side with Pike. Bellamy isn't weak-willed or naive, yet he fell for Pike's BS.

I don't hate Bellamy. However, I don't like him anymore.

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Who cares if the grounders were there to protect them. Bellamy did not single handedly go to the camp and kill 300 grounders and if he had stayed behind, the grounders would still have died. I think some of you Bellamy haters, forget the horrid things the grounders did from almost the first day they landed.

Pike hated the grounders and didn't trust them,and for good reason. They killed over a dozen children on the first day,and ultimately a third of their people after that. The grounders have proven repeatedly exactly how they feel about the Arker's,and you expect them to what worship the grounders lol..

You keep going on and on about Bellamy being given excuses, and yet pot meet kettle,cause you are doing the exact same thing. Oh and just in case your not aware,Bellamy is a fictional character. You know he doesn't really exist, so none of this really happened. I'm sure there are real causes out there and people who would appreciate your passion more then a non existent character.

However,if you really need to keep making up excuses for the grounders behavior go ahead.

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Keep in mind that one year had passed from the time of the flashbacks to the pilot episode. The Bellamy we saw in the flashbacks was a sweet and gentle boy, but the one we saw on the ground carried the guilt of his mother's death and sister's imprisonment on his shoulders. Plus he'd been blackmailed/bribed into "killing" someone for the first time in exchange for being able to protect his little sister.

Octavia in the flashbacks was also a pretty naive and shy girl, but seemed like a completely different person in season one.

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I think the reason he was such a dick when he got to the ground was because :

He needed the wristbands gone, so the others wouldnt follow, because if they did, he would be killed ( he thought he killed Jaha) so he was using his power to get the others to remove the wristbands. Also, he hated the leaders on the ark, the floated his mother, and ruined his life basically.. after following rules and order, he didn't want to have rules "Whatever the hell we want"...he was made a janitor, his sister ripped from him, he was still a good guy, we saw that when he helped Charlotte, it turned ugly, and even after hanging Murphy ( you could see he didn't want that, but the crowd drove it) he still tried to protect Charlotte.. Once the grounders started attacking..things changed. in my opinion.

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I think you're absolutely right!

I'm now on episode 4 of the 3rd season and while I'm not necessarily a fan of Bellamy's, I don't think he's a horrible person at all. Clearly there's still a lot more show left.... but I'm not hating him.

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Ok- I got even further in.... and I am starting to see how he has polarized the fan base. Yucky!

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