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Why IMDb's Message Board Shut Down Is Misguided


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Now and then there are shortsighted decisions companies make that seem innocuous internally, but when announced, end up causing a massive ripple effect that can turn their customers away for good. On Friday, the Internet Movie Database’s (IMDb) statement on the decision to shut down their message boards might join Netflix’s “Qwikster”, Starbucks’s “Race Together” cups, and Microsoft’s “AI Twitter Bot” as another entrant on an ever growing list of business initiatives that totally misinterpret their audience’s interests.

It’s true the toxicity of content seen on IMDb’s boards is an unacceptable embarrassment to the site. It’s also true that between throwaway posts from trolls, there’s been a wide wealth of valuable dialogue exchanged among passionate film fans that help further our collective interpretation of different films. Some of these posts are simple questions from people who didn’t understand a plot point but other posts can be unique interpretations of film that can make us look at a work in an entirely different way. Regardless of how enjoyable the experience is, what can’t be disputed is that for over 25 years, IMDb’s message boards have served as the Internet’s premier agora to hold conversation and debate on the art of filmmaking.

IMDb’s decision to shut down the boards isn't just woefully shortsighted; it’s degrading to the entire film industry. If you think this is hyperbole, I’d ask you to consider the following three points:

1. The Message Boards Are the Best Part of the Site.

If you are anything like me, one of the first things you do after viewing a film is check IMDb to see what everyone else is saying about it. This is a common practice for film fans, and even people in the industry, to gauge the general temperament surrounding a movie. It doesn’t matter how good or bad a film is, and in actuality, sometimes the worst off a film is the more fun it is to check the film’s board. For instance, take a look at 2009’s X-Men Origins: Wolverine board and soak in all those posts about how awful people thought Deadpool was. Don’t think for a minute many of those comments weren’t considered when producing last year’s Deadpool film because the reason why it was such a hit was that it responded to that very criticism.

Of course IMDb has other functions, such as being the primary database of all things film. But the truth is that today when you search for a film online, the top results include links to show times, the film’s wiki page, Rotten Tomatoes listing, and whatever latest news is related to it. Unless you are searching for detailed information, chances are you don’t need to visit IMDb anymore if you can’t access the one part of the site that made it unique from other websites. One of the greatest things about the message boards is that regardless of how old a film is, there was always a dedicated corner of the web reserved for discussion of whatever you saw.

Sometimes days would past by before someone responded to a post, but no matter how obscure a film was, there was always a response. Back in IMDb’s early days during the 90s, it was one of the first experiences ever where I felt part of the larger online community in a digitally connected world. Part of my fear is that now unless a film is new or popular, there may not be a place to come together and discuss it online. For example, I saw Child’s Play 3 for the 17th time the other night and took notice of how intricate the opening sequence was. It never struck me before, but when I checked IMDb, there was a three-page thread on it from others that also took notice to it. From this I learned some interesting stuff about a ridiculous old movie I love that I never knew before and wouldn’t have known without reading through threads. This kind of thing won’t happen without IMDb’s board.

2. Social Media Isn’t a Proper Substitute

IMDb’s official statement mentioned that more customers have migrated to their assortment of social media channels to engage as a reason why the boards have outlived their purpose. To me this sounds like lifeless marketing speak because I’ve seen these networks and “engaged” wouldn’t be the word I use to describe its audience.

When it comes to discussing films, social media is not the form I want to use for that. In fact, like many people today, I’ve become much less overt with what I post on social media because I value my privacy and don’t find Twitter or Facebook as a practical means for breaking films down. It’s also embarrassing for everyone on my social media feed to see my thoughts on how 1997’s Mortal Kombat Annihilation could have been fixed with a few tweaks. I would rather be a random user name on a board for that than having that attached to my actual social media networks.

By the way, have you seen the comments on Facebook as of late? They are just as flippant and offensive as what you would see on the boards. If IMDb’s goal is removing vile content, directing users to comment on social media instead doesn’t solve this. To me, it serves as encouragement to not post anything at all and further disengage with IMBb as a site or brand entirely.

3. Why Won’t IMDB Invest in Mods?

What is preventing IMDb from bringing on actual message board moderators to manage the content being posted? Part of what makes Reddit so successful is that essentially, it’s one large message board of anonymous users with unique interests that can immediately find a forum to engage with others. The reason why it works is the same reason other message boards work: moderation. While some subreddits have better mods than others, some like r/history, r/movies, and r/personalfinance are shining models of how moderators can keep trolls away and keep a meaningful conversation flowing.

It’s no secret that fighting trolls has become a headache for any website that has a comment section and has even convinced many reputable sites to get rid of their comment sections altogether. I don’t think it’s good policy to allow a handful of obnoxious posters dictate how a company should leverage its website’s best feature. These dozen or so problematic posters could be filtered out through proper moderation and allow IMDb to keep it’s boards for the millions of other visitors that use the boards in the spirit they were intended for.

The lack of decorum people have for strangers on the Internet is obviously a major problem today, and it’s only gotten worse since the election. I don’t know if you can remove ignorance, racial intolerance, or homophobic attitudes from someone’s heart, but you can remove them from being published on a site through professional moderation and effective reporting mechanisms. Doing so might be the only way to fight back against this cancer that’s overtaken comment sections and social media, but it’s going to take resources, not hiding from it.

IMDb has given its boards two weeks to operate before it closes for good on February 19. I do feel that there is still a chance for this decision to be reversed if enough people make their voice heard so here’s my suggested call to action:

Skip making another useless online petition and contact Amazon’s CEO Jeff Bezos ([email protected]) and IMDb’s CEO Colin Needham (http://www.imdb.com/helpdesk/contact) yourself. Make it known how you feel and show them that there are more IMDB users that care about keeping boards alive than there are trolls. Even better, if you have experience with message board moderation and community management, offer your ideas on how the site can improve.

It's been suggested that the real reason why IMDb is closing it's boards is because they can't be monetized. That's a fair assestment but without a forum, what is the point of being a registered user? If IMDb cares about their site's health, there's one other thing you can do to capture their attention: show them how much you care about the message boards by deleting your account since there isn't much of a point of having one after February 19.


contact Amazon’s CEO Jeff Bezos ([email protected]) and IMDb’s CEO Colin Needham (http://www.imdb.com/helpdesk/contact)and tell them your deleting your account on February 20th.

IMDB the only site that sabotages it's own forum by deleting content. No wonder no ones here.

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You really think people will delete their accounts? Don't be silly. My personal opinion is that I agree with deleting the message board (since they won't invest in moderators), because these message boards are no longer serving their purpose. I remember when you could actually talk about your favorite movies and TV shows on the message boards, when you could rate movies and TV shows THAT YOU'VE WATCHED. Now, it is completely opposite. People are trolling message boards, they are down voting movies and shows that they didn't even watched (you remember those angry lesbians when Lexa died) etc.

So in conclusion, it is better to have facebook group where we can moderate posts and comments, and where members will be only the people who like the show, where they can discuss it and share their opinion, than to have it like this.

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I get it you want the forum closed so your not really supporting the people who do want the forum to start open. But it is ironic your still on here. what is the point of being a registered user you can't message any other members no message board you don't need to be a member to use the site or to vote?

By a mass exit of registered users deleting their accounts on the same day well be noticed and does not affect any ones use of the site.

IMDB the only site that sabotages it's own forum by deleting content. No wonder no ones here.

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But isn't it just the discussion boards that are being closed? I assume people will still be able to rate shows and films and post reviews.

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yes members can write reviews but highly censored as IMDB is trying to limit the "toxic" opinions of the negative members. I never read the reviews as there is a report button which leads to censorship.

I understand IMDB would take a lot of pressure from the media conglomerates to stem the negative feed about their products. NBC ABC CBS CW FOX A&E AMC BBC Cinemax Disney Freedom FX HBO History Lifetime Showtime Starz SYFY TNT USA WGN Amazon Hulu Netflix. and all the Movie studios. It is a Multi trillion dollar industry.

A Multi trillion dollar industry conglomerate that if united could crush IMDB in frivolous lawsuits after lawsuits ban all media sales of their product off Amazon.

remember this same Multi trillion dollar industry conglomerate is forcing whole governments to protect their profits by raiding and seizing the servers who do not comply to the demands of the conglomerate. The conglomerate is using governments to doing their bidding at the expense of those country's tax paying citizens costing the industry nothing.

You do have to hand it to IMDB they have got free reviewer at no cost they simply have to weed out the negative ones.



IMDB the only site that sabotages it's own forum by deleting content. No wonder no ones here.

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highly censored as IMDB

Censored?

We all clicked AGREE to IMDb's Terms and Conditions before typing a single letter or word.

Their running a business not a charity for wayward trolls.

And Deathly990's post is right on point.

The trolls won.



Hate-watching says more about the viewer than it does about the show.

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Agreed. I'm not much of a social media user ("Facebook never" is my motto) and the ones I have used aren't as well organized by subject etc. sigh, IMDb will just become a place I go to look up an actors name or other trivia. Why even bother rating something if there is no discussion?

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May I suggest SpoilerTV as a discussion forum?

"Who we are, and who we need to be to survive are very different things." - Bellamy Blake (The 100)

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The forums are not going down because of their toxicity but because people can be heavily influenced trough them and the movie studios and share holders cant control their message. Imagine all the negative and objectively written reviews about some movies. Would you still go to the movie?

Some bad reviews literally killed some movies because they were so badly made the message was going like wildfire. But if you shut down the messanger you limit the exposure on the failures.

Yes ofc there will be facebook, youtube and twitter but if you systematically remove opposition you got no one to challenge you. What happens now on youtube is that most people dont get invited to previews and don't receive copies. So if they don't write positive stuff they will got no stuff to work with. And reviews of legit reviewers is hardly valid if they have to wait until movie comes out when rest of the world pays for tickets.

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"The forums are not going down because of their toxicity"
WRONG.

we have concluded that IMDb's message boards are no longer providing a positive, useful experience for the vast majority


"people can be heavily influenced trough them and the movie studios and share holders cant control their message."
We all clicked AGREE to IMDb's Terms and Conditions before typing a single letter or word.

No matter whatever you, me or anybody else thinks, it's their site and they can do whatever they damn well please with it.



Hate-watching says more about the viewer than it does about the show.

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yes your right they can do what eve they want as I can do what I want as a member and deleting my account is my decision as it is for all members. IMDB has decided censorship of their members is in their best interest and as such I have decided to not to be a member of their site any more or to support or contribute in to it in any way.

You are free to do what ever you want the same as I can do what I think is right. a mass exit of members by them deleting their accounts is what is right when the site is actively censoring their members opinions and reviews.

IMDB the only site that sabotages it's own forum by deleting content. No wonder no ones here.

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IMDB has decided censorship of their members is in their best interest

Once again there is NO CENSORSHIP.

We all are able to post here because we all clicked AGREE to IMDb's Terms and Conditions.



Hate-watching says more about the viewer than it does about the show.

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I agree with this. I love seeing a movie than coming to check these boards. I will barely have a need for imdb unless I am trying to figure out who an actor in a show is or something.

The cheap bastards just need to moderate it properly.





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I agree with everything you said. However what is done is done. IMDB is gone.
Let's try to salvage this site and make it into what IMDB forums were at the very beginning all those years back.
Also by looking at how well you argued your case I would personally like to see your take on shows and movies in this website.

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