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This is why you don't hire a Fast and Furious director.


The result is Fast and Furious in space which no one liked. Destroying the Enterprise in the first 10 minutes of the movie was not a very good idea. I sure hope JJ comes back and directs the 4th movie. Otherwise this franchise is doomed.

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This movie still managed to be pretty cool with Lin at the helm. Imagine what it could have achieved with someone else. All it needed was more twists, a less predictable second half with more stuff happening (Into Darkness did it better), and a finale that didn't hinge solely on tje activation of a cliche weapon we didn't know anything about besides ?deadly?.

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The result is Fast and Furious in space which no one liked.


A bit egocentric aren't we? $245 million in ticket sales from millions of people who have seen it disagree with you. Wait for China in a few days, their out of the world ticket sales will bitch slap you so hard you will be quiet for some time.

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$245 million for a movie that cost $300 million when you add marketing is a joke. This movie should be around $400 million at the very least.

China ain't saving it bro. It flopped, get over it.

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Not that I wish to disagree with you but $300 million dollars to make even with marketing seems a little excessive? I'm not sure what source you are using. When reviewers and such talk about this films budgets I don't hear them mention any additional marketing budget

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China will add only another $35 million.

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= Worldwide: $343,471,816


lolz at history!

ackbar pwns!

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you got owned frog...

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The movie didn't feel very Fast and Furious to me. If anything, Abrams used more action sequences than Lin did.

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The one thing that reminded of FF was that emphasis on crew and family, which Toretto constantly insisted upon throughout the last movies

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Agreed. Star Trek: Fast & Furious is surprisingly apt!

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Lol

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I would honestly not want Abrams to do another Star Trek film. And I really doubt he would anyway. He's directed three big science fiction franchise movies in the past 6 years and I think he do others things for a while now. No director has directed more than two movies in the Star Trek franchise anyway and that is probably a good thing as it keeps things fresh.

I really don't know who I would want to do the next one. I think it should be another new director to the franchise though.

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I really don't know who I would want to do the next one. I think it should be another new director to the franchise though.

Doug Liman (Edge of Tomorrow) or Rian Johnson (Looper) or Duncan Jones (Source Code, Moon). Alternatively, for a speculative choice, how about David Yates (Harry Potter)? And recruit Nicholas Meyer and Andrew Niccol to do the writing...

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Joss Whedon would be a good director, he has experience on the subject with Firefly. He could create an even better chemistry between the crew and have them deliver some classic one-liners.

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This was better than both JJ movies

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I don't blame the director. I blame the script. Once the enterprise crashed it killed the movie for me. You can't have two movies surrounding the enterprise, only to destroy it in the third. And the bring stranded part was terrible. The movie started out so promising. Most disappointing movie to me this year.

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I liked it for its action and images, but totally get your disappointment: Instead of carefully tying elements into the story and puzzling them together, the script just throws a new idea at every problem. It felt lazy to destroy it entirely just to have them stranded and then to invent another space ship just to let it take off again and to allow it for some reason be stronger than the enterprise, which was defeated by the swarm within seconds. The power of plot armour was too much and a bit less of deus ex machina would have been nice.
And the "twist" at the end was hardly a great allegory but a pseudo-intellectual attempt to find some vague connection to the beginning, which felt utterly pointless to the degree that it was almost an insult to audience older than 10 years.
On the funny side, they try to cash in too much on the Spock/McCoy constellation. It was brilliant to let them get stranded together, but the movie then keeps them attached to each other and repeats the same like the kids who learned their first joke, telling it over and over again.

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Agreed. What this felt like was an early draft of what could have been a decent Star Trek film. In these latter day Star Trek movies, I expect the over the top nonstop action so that is not my problem with this one.

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You can't have two movies surrounding the enterprise, only to destroy it in the third.

Lest you forget, they spent minutes on end in The Motion Picture showing us an obsessive flyby of the refit Enterprise, which was so different from the original that it might as well have been a brand new ship. Then it was destroyed in The Search for Spock two movies and five years later, which beats this seven year stint.

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I can't believe people actually want that hack JarJar Abrams to return.
👻I ain't afraid of no ghosts👹🎃

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Don't let JJ anywhere near Trek again. I'd rather have Lin come back. At least Lin is a Trekkie. And this one felt more like a TOS episode

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And this one felt more like a TOS episode


Motorcycles and Beastie Boys is not TOS.

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