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Why are they fighting over the embryo?


Have I missed why Janet is so upset by the idea of giving the embryo to the sister of Ash, the actual mother of the embryo? Janet has made it clear that she does not want to have another baby and her job has put the twins in such danger that they are in hiding. This season is way too boring for me to go back and watch the first episodes again. If you know why, please let me know. I might be dozing off and missing bits and pieces.

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The embryo is her last tie to Ash, to whom she is still very committed emotionally. Deb wants a baby now, and Janet isn't quite ready to give up her last piece of Ash. You should start watching again. Episode 5 was riveting! ( I thought Ep 4 was a little slow, but this made up for it all.)

sully54

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Agree--Janet has not done grieving for Ash and doesn't know her own mind as to whether she wants to have another child...
She loves the twins, but face it she hasn't the temperament to be home after normal work hours...
Plus...Janet can't stand to be pushed around or lose control--Deb has been pushing her to give up the embryo ever since Ash was killed...
Deb thinks Ash promised her the embryo but she did not know that the donor was not really anonymous...she Janet knows Ash did not really share everything with Deb...
Janet may have a reconsideration and give the embryo to Deb at end of this season...but it will be because it is what SHE wants to do and thinks is best for Ash's wishes...but she won't be bullied...
Deb is just operating in fear/anger because she wants a baby so bad and thinks that embryo is her best chance...
Might not even take...


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why Janet is so upset by the idea of giving the embryo to the sister of Ash, the actual mother of the embryo?

"the actual mother"? Biology doesn't make you a mother. Love does. If Janet decided to have that baby, she'd be his/her mother. Ash is dead. Her sister has no right to the embryo.

For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco

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Biology doesn't make you a mother. Love does.

Anyone can be a mother or father. As in produce offspring. So biology does make one a mother. It's the other stuff that makes one a parent or a "mom".

I don't trust people who don't like pets and I don't trust people who pets don't like.

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What I didn't understand about the fight over the embryo was Deb's constant contention that this was the ONLY way she could have a child. (Also, that it was her sister's wish; but basically she kept saying this was her only chance.)

Are Australian medical IVF facilities unavailable to women who are 39/40? Is that the reason Deb says she can't have a baby any other way than using this existing embryo of her sister's?

I get why Deb was fighting for THIS embryo, but didn't understand failing to get it why another option was never available. Like her egg harvested and matched to her husband's sperm. Or donor egg and her husband's sperm.

In the end, too, it also discounted her husband's ability to father a child, instead using Janet's and Ash's sperm donor.

Then, at the appeal there was Don(?) the sperm donor who had quite firm feelings about the embryo being implanted in a way he had not donated for--yet in the appeal he was absent?

The men didn't come off too well here--one had his biological material used completely against his will after the sperm he donated was not going to be used in the way he agreed to. It was a bait and switch on him--even though he had given up parental rights. Somehow, I saw his point. They changed it up on him. He signed on to have these two women he liked and respected to raise his biological child. Not somebody else.

And then Deb's husband never got a shot either at being a biological father with all the focus on the embryo and never a good explanation as to why his sperm couldn't be used somehow for IVF?

The whole thing made my head spin, quite honestly. Ha.

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