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I wonder how many fake IMDb accounts were created


to overrate this movie. Had this been rated by regular IMDb users, it would have been in Top 250 a fortnight ago.

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Aloha Snackbar. Even the internet is ruined now.

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A typical Scientology reaction. Your stupidity doesn't surprise me.

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Same thing here. Even some critiques and websites were fooled by the IMDb users' rate

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My account isn't fake, and while I haven't rated the movie yet, I'm inclined to give it a 9 or 10 out of 10. Whatever technical flaws some nitpickers want to focus on, I enjoyed watching Bahubali, and went back to watch it again, because I really liked it. We all have the freedom to our own likes and dislikes, and I liked this movie a lot. So did a lot of other people in India apparently, which is why it's doing unusually well across India - especially for a Telugu film, which is unprecedented. Are you even slightly aware of the movie's popularity in India?

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My account isn't fake


I wasn't talking about every account.

and while I haven't rated the movie yet


I wonder why.

We all have the freedom to our own likes and dislikes


Yeah, I am totally aware of that.

which is why it's doing unusually well across India


I acknowledge the fact this film is doing well not only across India, but also in the overseas. Box Office doesn't have anything to do with IMDb user votes. Salman Khan's movies (for example) set records at the Box Office upon release, but look at the no of user votes. ETT has been rated by 17,812 users, Kick has been rated by 13219 users only. But those movies were record-setters at BO.

Are you even slightly aware of the movie's popularity in India?


You should read the original post one more time.

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I wonder why.


I haven't rated a movie on IMDB in quite some time, actually - even though I always read movie/TV reviews here quite often. My one vote doesn't really matter to me, and I'd actually like to focus on discussing the interesting aspects of this movie, including the mythos. I also get annoyed by trolls - they really get my blood pressure up - and I feel strongly motivated to respond to their idiocy. I do fairly often write mini-reviews on other sites for movies I've seen, though - mainly to initiate discussion on the story world, etc. I'm a frequent movie watcher.


You should read the original post one more time.


I don't see anything in your original post that demonstrates awareness of the movie's strong popularity in India. I don't get the remark about 'fortnight ago' - are you saying you recognize the movie's success? Your title seems to say the opposite.

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I don't see anything in your original post that demonstrates awareness of the movie's strong popularity in India


Because it doesn't. I never wrote anything in the original post in order to "demonstrate awareness" of the film's popularity.

I don't get the remark about 'fortnight ago - are you saying you recognize the movie's success?'


You seem to be obsessed with the film's popularity and success. Or are you not aware that there is a 'Top 250 list' here on IMDb, and when or how movies enter the list?

Your title seems to say the opposite.


The title neither hints to the film's success nor does it hint towards the film's failure. You couldn't decode the original message properly at all. Fact is, the film's success has occupied a firm position inside your head. You can't seem to remove it. You're clearly obsessed with it.

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Yes, of course I'm aware of the Top 250 list. And I make no apologies about liking this movie - I'm Indian and I love the idea of a potential Indian LOTR. I've merely cited the movie's success in its defense against what I see as disproportionate trolling against it. There's also the trolling in the media by certain well-known media personalities with well-known political leanings, trying to muddy waters by injecting their petty personal politics - even going to so far as to churlishly make accusations of "rape" - which I think is really wrong.
Since you mention Salman Khan's movies, take a look at the Bajrangi Bhaijan forum board topics compared to the weird topics that have peppered the board for this movie - unusual hostility, to say the least.
What are you obsessed with, exactly - trolling people about which movies they like or dislike?

I wrote:

Are you even slightly aware of the movie's popularity in India?

You responded:
You should read the original post one more time.

Then you write:
I never wrote anything in the original post in order to "demonstrate awareness" of the film's popularity.


Huh? What exactly are you asking me to re-read your post for? What pearl of wisdom was there, exactly?

I'd personally rather discuss the actual storyline of the movie, but I'd like to do so in a troll-free environment. I participate on various movie forums, and we all discuss movies pretty avidly, without anyone accusing anyone else of obsession. What the hell do you expect on a movie forum? Discussion of the weather? Go figure. 😑

Gee, if you think I've discussed this movie a lot, I could point you to a discussion on a superhero fansite where we've been discussing MCU Civil War for over 100 pages now. But I guess that's 'obsessive' for you. Don't be a retard.

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When I said..

You should read the original post one more time.


..I wanted you to read the original post once again hoping that you would realize you were very much off the topic.

And also, original post means the first post, which begun the conversation on this topic related to the IMDb rating of Baahubali: The Beginning.

Damn, do I have to explain everything to you as if you were an eight-year kid (which I hope you are not)!?

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I read the original post, and it wasn't very on-topic itself. Besides, merely asking to re-read isn't very clear communication of intent. Don't pile on the trolling, because we already have enough of it.



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Manofsan has spent 2 weeks on IMDB waging some sort of crusade against me because I did not like Bahubali and outlined all the reasons why I didn't. He has followed me from one message board to another. He has called me a troll, racist, hater, homophobe, just today "low-EQ nut" simply because he disagrees with my opinion on Bahubali. He also told me I have no right to come to the Bahubali IMDB board and say I dislike the movie, justifying with a bizarre analogy that it is like going to Michael Jackson website and saying you dislike his music or going to an icecream parlour and saying you dislike icecream. He is telling people on the Bahubali board to get psychiatric help who did not like this movie and who perceived there to be sexism in the movie.

What is hilariously ironic he is telling me that I have obsessed with this movie and have been posting only here for the last 2 weeks and has accused me being a paid secret agent by a rival production comapany, but he has spent 2 weeks on this message board himself, not just discussing the movie per se, but attacking everybody who says they disliked this movie. The board is full of topics started by him to promote the movie and demote anybody who dislikes it, one of which is decrying people who are critical of this movie as "whiners"

I think he has totally lost the plot.

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WarriorSpirit is a troll who created his account mere days ago, just to bash this movie. His behaviour is exactly what all trolls do - bash from a variety of angles, deny they're trolling, they stick to this one particular board, and now he's making counter-accusations, pretending that he's the one being stalked. You're a troll, man - there's nothing that differentiates you from a troll. Why the hell would you be on this site posting so much about a movie you dislike? I've been on this site for over a decade, and trolls like you are pretty rare. Where are your posts on other movies? You only made a token post about Bajrangi Bhaijan, as if it was high art <eyeroll>. You seem to do things only in response to being called out on your troll nature, so that you can deny later on. You've continued obsessively attacking a movie, adopting grandiose reasons on various occasions, even while making Freudian slips that show you don't believe in those reasons at all. Why do you enjoy trolling? What's wrong with you, man? We could be having a discussion about some topic entirely unrelated to this movie, and your style of trolling would make that discussion completely unproductive. Trolling is how people get themselves banned.

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WarriorSpirit is a troll who created his account mere days ago, just to bash this movie.


My account is now 2 weeks old(not mere days ago) and in 2 weeks I have watched and reviewed two recent movies Bahubali and Bhajrangi Bhaijan and commented on three different message boards: Bahubali, Bhajrangi Bhaijan and Eega. On the Bhajrangi Bhaijan board I talked about the aesthetics of the movie and made no reference to Bahubali. On the Eega board, I defended Rajamouli(the director of Bahubali) from the accusation that he plagiarised the Australian movie Cockroach.

I have also made several posts unrelated to Bahubali taking about general cinema: "Indian Sci Fi and Fantasy needs to take of" and "Secret to the Hollywood epic"

Your accounts is 10 years old. In 10 years you have written only 7 reviews. Your last three reviews are 5 years apart. Your reviews have poor ratings. The last 2 weeks of your message board history 95% of your posts are only on the Bahubali board, where you are either promoting the movie or demoting anybody who says something critical about it. The vast bulk of your posts are personal attacks against me. You have literally written pages and pages of personal abuse against me. A review of your message board history shows you are regularly accused of being a troll by other IMDB members, and several have already put you on their ignore list. You have also personally abused several other IMDB members telling them they need psychiatric help that they don't like this movie, and you are now even insinuating the OP of this thread is a troll.

Considering how manic you about this movie, I think there are two possibilities: You are either mad or you are related to the Bahubali team. I personally hope it is not the second one, because then I will definitely not watch the second part if they are so insecure that they have to send somebody to defend their movie so viciously.

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I have zero affiliation to the Bahubali team.

Here is a guide to trolls:




From IMDB:

What is a troll?

A `troll' is an individual who enjoys creating conflict on the internet. He or she creates and fuels arguments which upset other members of the online community.
Trolls thrive in the anonymous space that is the internet. Trolls crave attention from others, and they don't care whether the attention is positive or negative. For trolls, other users are not quite real people; they are abstract characters on the other side of a computer screen. Trolls don't feel bad about hurting the feelings of other people in the digital space.


Trolls view chat rooms and newsgroups as a challenge where the winner is the user who creates the biggest argument, the user who upsets the most people in the most dramatic way. A troll wants to be the user getting the most attention.

Troll behavior discourages many users and makes for a less vibrant online community.



From CureZone:
What is an Internet Troll/ Forum troll?

A classic CureZone troll is trying to make us believe that he is a genuine skeptic with no hidden agenda. He is divisive and argumentative with need-to-be-right attitude, "searching for the truth", flaming discussion, and sometimes insulting people or provoking people to insult him. Troll is usually an expert in reusing the same words of its opponents and in turning it against them.

While sometimes, he may sound like a stupid, uninformed, ignorant poster, do not be deceived! Most trolls are highly intelligent people trying to hide behind a mask of stupidity and/or ignorance! They usually have an agenda. Very few trolls come to CureZone out of pure skepticism.

A CureZone Troll is generally a person who is extremely skeptical of the main forum subject.



From Usenet:
Sometimes a Troll is skeptical, trying to scare people, trying to plant fear in their hearts.

When trolls are completely ignored they sometimes step up their attacks, desperately seeking the attention they crave. Their messages become more and more foul, and they post ever more of them. Alternatively, they may protest that their right to free speech is being curtailed.

Trolling is a form of harassment that can take over a discussion.


https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists

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It describes you perfectly

A `troll' is an individual who enjoys creating conflict on the internet. He or she creates and fuels arguments which upset other members of the online community.


This is what you are doing. You are personally attacking all people who have something critical to say about Bahubali and telling them to get psychiatric help, calling them names etc

Trolls thrive in the anonymous space that is the internet. Trolls crave attention from others, and they don't care whether the attention is positive or negative. For trolls, other users are not quite real people; they are abstract characters on the other side of a computer screen. Trolls don't feel bad about hurting the feelings of other people in the digital space.


Yep you don't feel bad about hurting the feelings of others in cyber space. You have called me a troll, racist to South Indians, hater, and homophobe, and have not cared at about how it might make me feel. Now that I have told you that I am a Hindu-Sikh man, an avid watcher of South Indian movies and some of my favourite movies are Tamil and fav actors are Tamil, and I am bisexual and have loads of gay and Lesbian friends, you have not even tended me as much as an apology. In fact you did not reply at all to the post where I set the record straight.

You clearly feel hiding behind the anonymity of the internet you can abuse anybody you want with impunity. You just come across to me as an obnoxious person.

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Buddy, you're the one who's going on and on about a movie you don't even like. Now you've switched to going on and on about being persecuted.

http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1383/78/1383780114925.jpg

Okay troll, you've had your fun. You've proven what you are. Instead of continuing the useless sparring, I'll try to focus on more constructive fan discussion, and you don't post on any of the discussion threads I create. If you come looking for me, then you're again showing what a troll you are.

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Nope, I am not going on and on about the movie at all. I am participating in discussions about the movie, and where I participate and where I don't is frankly none of your business. If you think I created this account to bash this movie, then I am doing a very bad job bashing the movie, as I have given it a 6 rating which means I consider it average and I have praised its cinematography and battle scenes. In fact I have recommended this movie to several of my friends to see the battle scenes, while at the same time telling them it an average movie. You consider this bashing?

You on the other hand said you will give it a 10, you have praised everything about the movie and every flaw you said is nitpicking and those who are pointing out its flaws are "whining" You have created more than half a dozen threads promoting this movie. It looks more like you are using your account to promote this movie, than I am using mine to bash this movie. Even the OP of this thread has insinuated you are unusually fanatical.

And trust me I am not being "persecuted" by you. I do not consider you important enough to be persecuted or bullied by you. In the end you have just shown yourself up to loads of people on this message board. Not everybody says what they are thinking, but I am sure loads of people are thinking the same of you as I am. Certainly a few have already put you on ignore.

Anyway thank you for getting off my back. Deal. I will not respond to you, and you don't respond to me. Also do not talk about me in the third person either, and I likewise will not you. Good luck and get better soon.

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Well said, this comment made me laugh. :)

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Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? - Who watches the watchmen?

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LOL@MyNameisNobody

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whats the difference b/w a fake account and u giving Baahubali a 1 ? nothing, both r trolls

Last movie seen -
Baahubali: 8/10
Jurassic World: 7/10
Chappie: 7/10

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Just 1% as that of Shawshank redemption.

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I wonder how many more people will fail to decipher this part.

Had this been rated by regular IMDb users, it would have been in Top 250 a fortnight ago.

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Was that sarcasm? Explain yourself sir

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I totally agree. Also, even if this movie does get into the Top 250, international viewers will start watching this film and then eventually, the rating will go way way down.

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This is my one and only, original IMDb account and I rated this movie 10/10 - it's the best movie I have ever seen and I'm not discouraged by the little, foolish, nonsense complaints about make-up or where a song did or did not belong. This movie is absolutely beautiful to watch and the story is excellent. The only small criticism I might give it, and only because I saw others online reviewing the movie with the constant complaint that they were "confused." The only confusion I can imagine is that they do not know the backstory and have made no effort to discover why they were "confused." I think it might have been because they can't figure out which Baahubali is Shiva. His father, the late king, was Amarendra Baahubali, while Shiva is Mahendra Baahubali. Beyond that one point, I honestly can't imagine what might be confusing about this epic and fascinating movie (or story).

Oh, by the way, I'm a natural born citizen of the U.S. of America, have always lived in America and am still living in America - not always by choice, sometimes because of circumstances. Although I've never had the opportunity to visit India, I would have loved to (too old and sick now). The only good thing about getting old and being sick, oops the two good things, is my service dog, Phoebe, who is with me 24/7 and the fact that about the only thing I manage to do is watch movies every day. So, when I say this is the best movie I have ever seen, I'm talking about classics like Gone with the Wind, Wizard of Oz, To Kill a Mockingbird, etc. and the newer popular movies: Avatar, Queen, The Notebook, etc. I'm looking forward to watching it over and over!

Shauna & Ms. Phoebe, my God-given Happy Pill

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Very nice reply. I couldn't agree more. I am also non-Indian, and I rated it 10/10! It is an absolutely amazing movie, with spectacular scenes. It's not overrated, and I don't know why are people always ''attacking'' Indian cinema. I find it pretty nice, and different.

Greets from Montenegro. :)

Pursue excellence, and success will follow, pants down.

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My account is real and I am rating it 10/10 now, because I loved the movie a lot...:)

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