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Just saw this

posted 10 years ago by Mandy999
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I was bored and wanted more info on fracking, it being such a controversial topic and all. Unfortunately, this film didn't give me much. I was hoping for more facts, not anecdotal propaganda.

The farmers: Yes, I'm sure the farmers are negatively impacted by not being able to lease their land for fracking. That doesn't tell us anything about fracking itself.

The geologist: They go to a geothermal plant in San Francisco to talk about earthquakes? And even if geothermal power production does generate more earthquakes than normal, it still tells us nothing about fracking's potential for seismic activity.

The chemist: Okay, cabbage is made up of a lot of long, complicated-sounding chemical names. Again, that tells us nothing about the safety of the chemicals in fracking solutions, especially since we don't even know what they are.

About the only actual fact in this whole thing was that the EPA didn't find contamination in Dimock, but you can't build a whole documentary on that.

I'm sure Gasland was equally biased (I haven't seen it), but this is a poor example of how to refute a propaganda piece. Anyone with any critical thinking skills can pull it apart easily.

[–] VerbalGoddess 10 years ago

When you're watching a so-called documentary complaining about "liberals" that was the first red flag for me and that was in a promo for FrackNation.

The EPA DID find contamination in Dimock, Pennsylvania. (See article below.)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/epa-official-links-fracking-and-drinking-water-issues-in-dimock-pa/2013/07/29/7d8b34b2-f8a1-11e2-afc1-c850c6ee5af8_story.html

Gasland is really well made and not funded by an industry. The fact that FrackNation was made by the oil and gas industry is a reason not to watch it.

[–] cdan900 10 years ago

NO, actually it's the other way around. Gasland in full of downright lies and a lot of manipulation. It's also completely irrelevant who funds what. The only truly important thing is: who presents VERIFIABLE FACTS! This is where Gasland completely fails and its only supporters are ideological wackos and people with extremely low intelligence. FrackNation on the other hand is a well researched, transparent documentary that exposes lots and lots of lies. Several of the people involved in Gasland refused to provide EVDIENCE for their claims and threatened to sue the producer of Fracknation for no good reason.

In my opinion, people who try to spread such lies as the producers (and supporters) of Gasland ,with such serious economic consequences as it is the case with shale gas, should be locked up for very long periods of time.

[–] HarpoSpoke 10 years ago

Gasland is really well made and not funded by an industry. The fact that FrackNation was made by the oil and gas industry is a reason not to watch it.

That's called an Ad Hominem. A very well known logical fallacy. You base everything around the person speaking instead of what they are saying.

Either what they say in this doc is true or not true. Nothing else about "who made it" is relevant in the slightest. Gasland certainly had no problem including lies.

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[–] Satan2016 9 years ago

"The geologist: They go to a geothermal plant in San Francisco to talk about earthquakes? And even if geothermal power production does generate more earthquakes than normal, it still tells us nothing about fracking's potential for seismic activity."

Yes it does. Geothermal requires two bore holes (in and out). Both are fracked so there are fractures connecting them.

Greenies love geothermal but hate petro-fracking. Another sign of insanity.