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As a Christian, such movies make me cringe.


Even the trailer was filled with rubbish. (Do they not know what The Theory of Evolution states and how it is not the same thing as abiogenesis?)

We do not need movies which try to convince the general public that we Christians are idiots. (Yet lately we've been dealt two in a row. What gives? Are anti-theists funding these terrible films to make us look bad?)

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I've said it before: Snarky, mean atheists couldn't do a better job of smearing Christians with an offensive caricature better than a movie like this.

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It makes the human race look like crap.

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It makes the human race look like crap.


Which is exactly what the human race is.

Originality needs a reboot.

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Touché.

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OP, you are convincing everyone that darwinists who pretend to be Christians are idiots.

Your threads on this board are making real Christians look good, and darwinists pretending to be Christians look bad.

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Keep posting. You are a great example of what false teachers produce. Instead of focusing on the cross and the true Gospel of Jesus Christ, you prefer to substitute pseudo-science traditions from false teachers like Ken Ham who claim the earth is 6,000 years old and everything was created with "appearance of age." "Lying for Jesus" does not advance the kingdom!

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Instead of focusing on the cross and the true Gospel of Jesus Christ,


Interesting that you would say that, bible-and-science-forum...I find that leading by example is much more effective than the mean-spirited things I keep hearing you say in your comments.

First, I will not question your being a Christian. That is between you and God. But I find it disturbing that you are so willing to LIMIT Him!

If you're a real believer, then I assume you also acknowledge the existence of the Enemy of our souls. Am I right or wrong on that? If you agree, then tell me, what is one of the names we know him by? Is it not the "father of lies"?

SO, is it JUST possible that this "science" you seem so married to and more interested in defending rather than the Cross of Christ, Jesus Christ and Him crucified, as you want Navaro to be, could be a lie? Or do you not believe God is ABLE to speak the Universe into existence and create man and woman in the Garden, fully human, fully grown and ready to go? God can't do that? Because see, I believe He can!

Either take the shackles off God that YOU have put on Him in front of the unbelieving world, or stop going on about your faith. Because right now? You and others like you are doing more damage to the name of Christ in this world than any movie could.

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"SO, is it JUST possible that this "science" you seem so married to and more interested in defending rather than the Cross of Christ, Jesus Christ and Him crucified, as you want Navaro to be, could be a lie? Or do you not believe God is ABLE to speak the Universe into existence and create man and woman in the Garden, fully human, fully grown and ready to go? God can't do that? Because see, I believe He can! "

I believe that the devil could even create a false religion that worships a false savior. And all who worship him will be separated from god forever because they no longer follow the jewish laws. ;)

Think about it, if the devil could create a worldwide conspiracy among almost all scientists... imagine what he could have done 2k years ago when the smartest people knew less aboout the world than a 5th grader does today. ;)

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That particular argument would be a non-starter since the Messiah was predicted from Genesis right through to Malachi and Jesus fit the prophecies down to the last jot and tittle.

And you must have noticed, since you copied and pasted my comment, that I posed a question. I didn't make an assertion. Yes, it's possible this is a lie of the devil. But it's just as, if not more, possible that it is simply man's pride and desire to be equal with God and if he can't wrap his head around God's Word's version of events, he has to create his own version.

Try again.

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"That particular argument would be a non-starter since the Messiah was predicted from Genesis right through to Malachi and Jesus fit the prophecies down to the last jot and tittle. "

Actually you only have the claims of the gospels that Jesus fit all those prophecies. Too bad that the gospels were written by unknown authors at least half a century after the supposed events. Btw, there is not a single contemporary source for the existence of Jesus. ;)

But it is not important if Jesus existed or not, or how the Jesus myth started.
The important part is, that you are grasping for straws when your only argument against the theory of evolution is that Satan might have created it to fool us. ;)

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There is no "true gospel," since religion is fiction.


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As a Christian, such movies make me cringe.

Your participle is dangling. You just said that movies are Christian, not you.


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Your participle is dangling. You just said that movies are Christian, not you.


No. No. And no.

Considering the fact that the sentence contains no participle, your "observations" start with incorrect terminology--a participle is a verbal mood--and then go completely off the tracks. (Idioms are very important to English language comprehension but that one has closely equivalent idioms in a great many modern languages across the globe. So I figured that there was a good chance that you would recognize it. And after dealing with international students in the classroom and on the staff for over a half century, I try to be accommodating and even Socratic when it comes to language acquisition.)

Yes, it is obvious that you are not a native speaker of English. Your reading comprehension skills are in need of remedial training--but there is no dishonor in that. Before retirement, I occasionally taught graduate school courses for the Dept. of Linguistics but I have limited experience with formal teaching of ESL. So I can't readily recommend the best on-line resources or even a good tutorial. You should consider getting started with the basics of descriptive grammar and perhaps Google for help with common clause structures of American English.

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No doubt you were frustrated by the many forum participants who are unlikely to be tactful in their "constructive criticism" of most posts in general and who can be especially brutal with those who struggle with English as a second language (ESL). I'm sorry to hear that you have had such negative experiences. I can understand your frustration. Nevertheless, you should look at even such negative interactions as another opportunity to learn.

I'm sorry I can't be more helpful but my academic career was focused on historical and comparative linguistics, translation theory, formal automata, and machine translation. What you need is practice with basic conversational English.

If you need any help with understanding these paragraphs, you are welcomed to contact me by private message.

(By the way, due to limited vision, I use special software that allows me to participate in forums like this one. Unfortunately, it sometimes causes me to omit words in my writing. So if you struggle to understand some sentence of mine, it is also entirely possible that there is an omission which I didn't catch while running the viewer to proofread. The process is a bit tedious and unwieldy for me but it is still much more efficient than Braille-related tools.)

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No. No. And no.

Yes. Yes. And yes. The sentence "As a Christian, such movies make me cringe" means that "such movies" are "a Christian." That is basic English grammar. The proper way to say it grammatically would have been "As a Christian, I cringe at such movies," since in this sentence "I" am "a Christian," not the movies. You can claim otherwise, but it's still true, as anyone who actually had an academic background would know well. As such, it's patently clear that you are lying about your background. I know you were intending to insult me, but your paltry attempt fell entirely flat since you were incorrect in everything you said.

The rest of your post is utter nonsense. Not only am I a native English speaker, but I am also an editor and former college English professor by trade, with several published books to my name. At present, I work in the film industry as a script editor. My writing skills are impeccable, which is more than I can say for yours.


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