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'Science creates fictions to explain facts' - Gilman

posted 10 years ago by vulnerable101
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The troll who posts that ridiculous Gilman quotation with every comment here does a great job of illustrating what "creation science" denialists of evolution know about science.

They also demonstrate the threat they pose to the American educational system and the economy.

Compare a Ken Ham video to a Dr. Francis Collins video. Both call themselves born-again, Bible affirming Christians. Ken Ham claims that he accepts the Bible but he constantly rejects the evidence found in God's creation. But Dr. Collins accepts God's answers in BOTH his Bible and his creation. So it is easy to determine who cares about evidence and truth.

Dr. Collins is considered to be a likely winner of a Nobel Prize for his directing the Human Genome Project. Ken Ham is listed in the Encyclopedia of American Loons. Ham is neither a scientist nor a Biblical scholar. He is quite ignorant of both fields. Yet, he declares Dr. Collins and the rest of the world's science academy as wrong and in need of his tutoring. The Book of Proverbs describes Ken Ham quite well: the fool who mocks knowledge and scorns instruction. "There is no hope for a fool." (He's where the troll will display his ignorance of Aramaic, by confusing various words for FOOL and RACCA.)

So what can be done to remind non-Christians that more Christians are in agreement with Dr. Francis Collins than Ken Ham?

[–] Navaros 8 years ago

I'm no troll. Stop lying about me.

Dr. Collins is considered to be a likely winner of a Nobel Prize

Who cares?! obama won the 'Nobel Peace Prize' despite the fact that he participates in wars and endorses the murdering of hundreds of thousands of American babies every year via 'abortion', and hundreds of thousands of more by supporting murder via 'abortion' in every other part of the world too. That proves that such awards are meaningless.

Moreover, the awards of men mean nothing to God, unless they are awards based on living a godly life and doing good work that supports God and His values.

So what can be done to remind non-Christians that more Christians are in agreement with Dr. Francis Collins than Ken Ham?

That statement is an impossible oxymoron. Christians believe the Bible. collins denies the Bible. One cannot both be a Christian and deny the Bible. That is impossible.

"Science creates fictions to explain facts" – Gilman

[–] headsign 8 years ago

Call it 'murder' if you have to but you might be surprised to learn that societies that liberalized abortion and contraception experienced a dramatic decrease in criminality about 2 decades later due to the fact that less children were born with problematic backgrounds or as the consequence of rape. I know this is a hot topic for you christians and I'm not trying to troll you but facts are facts.

[–] iztok-mravlja-1 8 years ago

I've seen you do the "no true Scottsman" fallacy a bunch so I must point this out to you.

You ďon't get to define who is Christian and who is not. If that's how it worked the thousands of denominations would cancel each other out by defining themselves out of existence, with nobody ending up being "Christian".

Also, and this is not directed at you, but you can't simultaneously claim to be the largest religion in the world (counting every denomination) when it suits you, but distance yourself when it doesn't, like when the Pope acknowledges evolution as irrefurable fact.

You're either in or you're out.

[–] jspider-64253 8 years ago

Who cares?! obama won the 'Nobel Peace Prize' despite the fact that he participates in wars and endorses the murdering of hundreds of thousands of American babies every year via 'abortion', and hundreds of thousands of more by supporting murder via 'abortion' in every other part of the world too. That proves that such awards are meaningless.

Moreover, the awards of men mean nothing to God, unless they are awards based on living a godly life and doing good work that supports God and His values.

Not sure what this has to do with the accuracy of this movie but God himself endorses abortion in Numbers 5:11-31.

Apparently God thought Abortion should be used to punish a cheating spouse. You'll note that it is God directly commanding this and that the command is for a priest to give a poison that will cause the woman to miscarry...

Maybe next time you read the bible before putting your own feelings into the scripture you hippie.

[–] Terpsfan 8 years ago

Yeah it's amazing how the Biblical God is seen as synonymous with being pro-life. That passage is a horrible one - concocting a bitter drink to try to determine whether or not a woman's baby is a bastard child? Scary stuff. Talk about weird superstition.

There are also the passages in Hosea 9:13 and 13:16, plus the Jezebel passage in Revelation 2 (I believe around 2:20-40, where her bastard children will be struck dead if she continues to sleep around). They sure hated on women that slept around in those days, yet men could have craploads of wives. That stigma is slowly, slowly dying these days, but it's still kinda there. A girl isn't seen as cool if she sleeps with a lot of guys - not like a guy. But it certainly doesn't make you a bad person - that's just ridiculous. There are many loving, great women that like variety in sex. Enjoying having multiple partners has no direct bearing on how you are as a person and treat other people.

There's also the passage in Zechariah 14:1-10 or so that says those who don't follow God will have their cities plundered and their women raped. Anyone who believes in this, or that it's good, really has issues. I've heard the excuse "Well God was warning them to repent and believe." Absolutely ridiculous - repent or I'll allow all your women to be raped by intruders (Zechariah 14:1-10), or have pregnant women's bellies ripped open (Hosea 13:16). The writers of these passages were mentally ill, I mean come on.