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Racist Peele said he'd never cast a white person as a lead in his films


And I gotto say - it seems to me like there will be plenty of reverse racism in this series - with Peele being in the control chair.

I thought Peele was really funny with his writing/acting in the Key and Peele show - but his statement has opened my eyes and I'm starting to realize that he was a racist from the getgo - and as I re-watch some of the K/P skits, I begin to cringe.

His films and this TV show is no different - it's hard to watch this crap when you realize what message he's trying to send to the viewers.

It's pretty fucked up.

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Then I suggest white males like myself (and I'm assuming) you too, ought to stop watching his stuff. I'm not going to watch this Twilight Zone based on the fact after I looked at the writers and producers involved and suspected it would be mediocre crap. And now I have a perfect reason not to watch.

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He's not racist. His films have white people in them, just not in the lead role. There are tons of film with white men in the lead role, so there is nothing wrong with Peele wanting to cast black actors in led roles. I haven't seen any "reverse racism" in the Twilight Zone or in his films.

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Well - we got a heavy doze of black lives matter/cops are racists in the 3rd episode.
And his films - when you consider the statement he's made, it puts a totally different spin on things. When 'Get Out' first came out, all my black facebook friends were ecstatic - meanwhile I thought it was just another horror film, good but not amazing by any measure. But now I'm realizing that it's much more than that - it was a loud statement of how he sees white people.
And this shit really disturbs me - and it makes me wonder how many people he'll be able to brainwash into thinking the same way as he does.


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Right. Black lives do matter and some cops are racist. The episode did not say that all cops or all white people are racist or that black lives matter more than white lives.

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I do see what you're saying. He seems to want to represent white people, when he does include them, as inherently either vapid and shallow or as racist. In US, not seemingly about race, the main couples white friends were so banal and unlikable that I couldn't figure out why they'd be friends with them. In the 2nd TZ with the only male lead there's another unlikable banal character that utters a racial epitaph as if all whites do this. Not in my reality they don't.
And these were the least obvious of all his ventures.
I don't care if he wants to avoid white leads but it seems he has issues with how he wants to portray them.

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"reverse racism" is just not being racist. Being racist against whites is called racism. Discriminating against a race for whatever reason is racism. Peele is a racist and you are brainwashed.

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Absolutely... it's sickening how messed up this world has become with people thinking racism towards anyone is acceptable in any manner...

Frankly, Peele is no Sterling.. even with his glass in hand in a dapper suite.

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If you deny someone something based on nothing more than skin colour, you're s fuckin' racist... don't talk rubbish.

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He's not racist he just hates whitey. Ok. LOL

He's about average for a Hollyweirdian.

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Don't worry, TV and TV ratings sucks so bad nowadays so they have to go all racist to get some of the cord cutters to watch. We can go find better entertainment elsewhere, something that isn't race baiting and destructive.

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I was looking forward to TZ but decided not to watch after that comment.

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If that true, do you think if he had directed the original Twilight Zone in the 60's he would have filmed in only black? The screen would have just been dark with voices coming out of it. It would have been like a radio show. Would it have had the same cultural impact? I wonder...

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Peele's point was really about the lack of films, stories, and roles about blacks. His exact quote was, "I don't see myself casting a white dude as the lead in my movie. Not that I don't like white dudes, but I've seen that movie." And he got loud applause for that -- for saying something many people, even whites, agree with. That was why many people went to see Get Out, Black Panther, Us, etc., whereas in the past, these movies probably wouldn't have been made. Many people WANT these movies made, so that unique perspectives and themes will be explored and shown. To express a desire to make these movies like Peele did was not wrong. You people need to realize when you are excluded from something, it may still be for the good. Not everything that is for the good has to include you, please understand this.

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"You people need to realize when you are excluded from something, it may still be for the good. Not everything that is for the good has to include you, please understand this."

Although I disagree with Peele's comments, I agree with yours. Very well said, especially your last sentence.

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Well said. I don't disagree with Peele's comments, just the tone and attitude. If only people in Hollywood were as articulate and sensible sounding as you in the way you worded your post.

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There is nothing wrong with a healthy diversity in films. But as many have pointed out, if other directors were to say this - like, no asians in martial arts movies - i've seen that movie - that would be a pretty darn racist comment, regardless of how good it might be for the society to no longer see asians as being martial arts experts (which is a definite stereotype).

At the end of the day, there are plenty of examples of white directors, for example, who never had a non-white lead in their films - or black directors who never had white leads. They could, however, state at any point that it's because of the script, the context, the historical setting of the film, etc.
When you state that you will exclude any particular race from being a lead in any of your films, however, you are stating an agenda - a racist agenda at that, regardless of how good that may be for the society. In other words, you no longer have an excuse for your films not featuring leads from other races - because you've just said that it is a conscious decision to exclude one race once and for all.

So yes, my point stands. Besides, the twilight zone rendition under Peele's direction is pretty shitty. There is sjw agenda is pretty much every episode - and hell, even that could have been done so much better. In fact, most of the modern sjw films/tv series are pretty shitty in comparison to what we've seen in the past (like 20/30 years ago). It seems to me, anytime you put sjw agenda as your primary goal in films or tv series, you begin to forget that the quality of writing/acting matters too.




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Again, Peele's point was to emphasize the lack of black lead roles in film if you read the complete quote. It's not really about excluding white actors per se. He happens to be making films with black specificity, so hiring black leads is simply a requirement. You need to understand the deeper point Peele referred to instead of finding fault on the surface what he said.

The kind of "racist agenda" you are protesting has really only occurred to blacks in Hollywood. In the past, even if a film had black characters, they would often be played by whites in black faces. No one had to actually say "we don't ever hire black actors" in those days; they just didn't do it and no one said a thing. The point is, you and the other posters need to stop looking at what IS SAID. You need to look at the overall climate and the actual meaning of what is said. Sometimes, what is true is NOT said. When someone says he doesn't hire white actors, look deeper into the issues first.

We didn't have any problems with Coppola and Scorsese hiring mostly Italian actors in their films, and we shouldn't have problem with Peele hiring black actors. I would have no problem with him hiring 100% black actors for his next 100 films if he continued to explore unique themes and ideas in creative ways. And that will only benefit all film fans, you and me alike. And both of Peele's films happen to be quite universal in nature, with themes that many people would relate to, albeit with black specificity. We should be saying how inclusive he is as a filmmaker.

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The alleged lack is due to there being fewer black actors.

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To be honest Jordan Peele is a very talented movie director with some underlying homosexual tendencies perhaps but he is also very racist in his portrayal of white people. I understand where he is coming from because there is a lot of racism against the afroamerican people in the USA and world too. However he is half white himself so ... He needs to kind of understand he is unknowingly doing some self loathing along the way. I always said get out is the most racist film I've seen in a while. In that film every single white character is evil and afroamerican character good or a victim. If I made the same movie with races reversed people might accuse me of feeling a certain way. Like I said, I have no problem with him doing his work but it is pretty racist along the way.

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You know... I've recently heard a few black celebrities talking about Key and Peele and how they were acting too white, with white wives, and even when acting as homeboys in skits, they looked like white boys pretending to be black. So, now I'm thinking perhaps Jordan said and did this as his way of overcompensating for his perceived whiteness. It comes off and actually is racist, but maybe that's what he figures he has to do in order for the black community to accept him 100%? It's racist and deplorable, but at least it may provide some insight into his words/actions. I wonder if his white relatives (he is half white) and his wife+relatives are on the same bandwagon...

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I think that's the problem. Key and Peele embrace the white American culture. They love the classic movies and TV shows in which basically 99 percent of leads we're white or were made by white people. Their work is full of references to white pop culture and I know they are fans for a fact. Jordan Peele is a cinema fan or else he wouldn't be able to create such good movies and sketches. But being mixed and looking like an afroamerican in a white dominant culture is not the best feeling in the world. You realize you are in love with a culture whose people will never see you as their own due to skin color. Hence comes the resentment and the overcompensating with the blackness. Jordan Peele does racist movies and sketches just to hide the fact he is in love with white culture.

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