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Swedish pop/rap scene...what's the purpose?


I didn't get that scene. I know the writer character revealed himself to be a jerk and we find out the secretary was really kind-hearted. She actually invited Gus and Hazel Grace to help bring the writer out of his 'funk'...but I don't get the point the writer was making by mentioning the music...

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At first, I wondered if Van Houten did that as a means to ignore them. Then, I wondered if he assumed American teenagers would like Rap music. Basically, he used that as a diversion to ignore the teens and their questions. Indeed, he was a jerk in that whole scene.

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I think that music was just another bizarre act of rudeness to debunk Hazel's idolization of this author. The whole scene was about disillusionment and made Hazel come to appreciate the real people in her life: Gus, her parents. She kisses Gus soon after that scene and finally lets herself fall in love with him.

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I just watched this, and thought he got a unfair treatment, seeing as he was just trying to help them.

Now, from what you are saying, I understand the purpose of the scene! He had to get her to react that way, for her to be disillusioned.

God damn the people in power today, they keep manipulating us in the most horrible ways.

As for the Hip Hop part, he was just saying music is about feeling.

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I think that when Van Houton made the comment he did, something to the effect of "its not what they're saying its how they're saying it", he meant--don't read my book literally--try to absorb the feeling I implied by writing it. He backed that up by saying that the end of the book didn't matter...and what happened to the characters didn't matter--all that mattered was how the book made her feel.

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I think that too.
You worded it beautifully. It is interesting to see that he tries to help her and no one understands or acknowledges it. Even the assistant, who knows him best it seems does not get that this is actually his way to help.

She was so keen on learning what happened to the people who wre left behind because it affected herself. But I do not think she knew that. Van Houton did. That is why he treated her that way.

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He was completely disinterested in discussing the literal interpretation of his book. He was more interested in how the book made the reader feel, and he was using the Swedish song to illustrate that point. Also, remember that when Hazel walked into his house the writer was a hero to her. But as she left she told him to *beep* off. In between were a series if things he said and did which made her more and more disgusted with him. The music was one more straw on the camels back.

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It's not about what nonsense the voices are saying, but what they are feeling.

Think about that.

The voices feel rushed, peeved, anguished, then there's a segment where the singer goes "boom boom boom!" and the bomb goes off in the background.

Angst. Fear. About to blow.

Hazel is a grenade.

The song sounds like it's about emotional explosions.

That's the way I saw it.

It mirrors Hazel's feeling of being a grenade, of her cancer holding her back. It mirrors Van Houten's torment over losing his daughter; he blows up at the teens.

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I'm not really sure, I think he was just frustrated that his daughter had died from cancer and there they were with cancer all happy go lucky... not sure though

I just thought it was a really unexpected choice of a song because most Swedes aren't familiar with it, it was never on the charts or anything so when Dafoe started talking about Swedish Rap and he mentioned "bomfalleralla" I was like "What? That song is what he choses to play?!" lol

Cool to see Swedish Rap in a American movie though

The plan is you drink a nice tall glass of shut the *beep* up.

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