abbi and ilana have some great material, and overall, it's a great show. the only problem being their very obvious preoccupation with their idea of "empowering" women by creating a female character that objectifies others on a level comparable with that of a frat boy (and still, with an emphasis on female appearance). i understand their goal, but it just seems skeezy and counterintuitive, and seems to lack in comedic weight. great show though, otherwise.
Yes, I've always found it ironic that 'typical male' behavior is condemned when guys do it, yet it's tolerated (and often celebrated) when women engage in the exact same way. Double standards are alive and well...
But we are clearly in the minority, and Broad City has been acclaimed by feminists and is apparently an appropriate enough platform for a front-running presidential candidate to appear. Don't get me wrong, I love the show and the ladies' antics always make me laugh. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy. But who hasn't yet realized that modern feminists are a bunch of shrieking hypocrits?
Call me crazy, but is the show not self-aware of this irony? Granted I a haven't seen a ton of episodes, but I know that this sort of so-progressive-it's-actually-regressive logic has been called out on the show before.
Like the scene where they decide to go through their Facebook to see what guys they can hook up with and they even talk about how empowered they are in a very over the top manner.
It's clearly satire and they make self deprecating jokes about it all the time.
Why do so many people seem to have to peg "feminist" or "empowering" on everything relating to female? Can't they just let a show be a show? It's kind of ironic because I hear some other reviewers go on about how different this show is because it apparently doesn't dwell on feminist or female/gender specific type things, but then just as many if not more are always going on about how ostensibly "feminist" or "empowering" this show is. Personally, I don't see much "feminist" or "empowering" about this show, it's just a good, funny show, for the most part.
And I believe you're also talking about one of the creators:
“If you watch one of our episodes, there’s not a big message,” Jacobson explained to the Wall Street Journal. “But if you watch all of them, I think, they’re empowering to women.”
(I don't see feminism in this either, maybe some small undertones, or some girl power stuff, but no straight up in your face Tumblr style action going on) LOL
You're kind of missing the point. When Abbi and Ilana engage in this kind of behaviour it's clear the joke is actually on them. Like when she started catcalling a guy and realised it was her brother.
Just because a show is made by women doesn't mean it's perfect. In my opinion, feminism is allowing women to be as imperfect and successful as men can be.
I agree with your point in general, but the show's track record suggests that the double standard is intentional. It's like Ilana constantly pointing out racism and cultural appropriation then being shocked when Jaime calls her out on her own appropriative behavior, or when Lincoln talks about consent and Ilana says something to the effect of "I've heard so many women say that, but when you say it I really hear it." The joke is that she's a crusader for social justice but doesn't always understand what she's fighting for. It would be completely in character for Abbi to raise this point with Ilana in the show.
How much activity would be registered on an MRI scan while you used such jargon? Estimate it yourself by comparing the difficulty of performing a calculation like 3-0.75 and typing that post. Lobotomization is not enlightenment
The fact that you're not finding it funny is exactly the point. It's subverting the whole frat boy culture. It's showing why that kind of humor isn't funny. Women are tired of seeing that kind of humor dominate the media by men, and now two women are taking that culture and saying, "Well why don't we show them how tiresome it is by turning it around on them?" And THAT'S why it's progressive.
They're also subverting the idea of the "social justice tumblr crusader" that many people complain about. Ilana often makes comments about cultural appropriation, or racism, or sexism that are not correct, and uncalled for. This is akin to many men-driven movies and tv-shows trying to talk about the same things and getting them completely wrong (as well as comments made by some females who don't quite understand). That's why the other characters call her out on her comments and tell her that by saying these things, she's actually making things worse. The writers know what they're doing; every line about objectification or social justice and the response to those lines has been carefully crafted for a reason.
This show is progressive and genius because of it's ability to subvert these things, and that fact that you (and many others) find a problem with it illustrates that perfectly. It's designed to make you stop and think, and take a step back and reflect on your own actions and thoughts, while having a laugh at the same time.