comment about the lectures


In the science lectures, there were obvious mannequins poised among the audience.
What could possibly be the reason for this?
Anyone who had Q & A might speak to this. Thanks.

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I'd like to know that as well. Just came back from a screening and noticed two of the mannequins in the first lecture. Were they there for the other ones as well? Perhaps the producer couldn't afford enough extras and they didn't think we'd notice? ;]

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Sometimes films use inflatables for large crowd scene for a variety of reason. Perhaps the environment they are shooting in isn't conducive for housing hundreds of extras so they hire an inflatable company to bring them in.

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http://inflatablecrowd.com/default/Home.html

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lol - I understand. But these were definitely mannequins. I read one review an hour ago that stated that they thought they were in there to add "to the artificiality of the film."

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One of the filmmakers being paid homage in the style of this film is Jess Franco, who frequently used mannequins in his films, most notably in SUCCUBUS and VAMPYROS LESBOS. Franco also frequently employed dialogue that would be almost oblique and impenetrable, making sense to characters but not to the audience, almost like a dream conversation.

As such, the combination of scientific babble with the mannequins in the audience felt like a tip of the hat to Franco.

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I've seen both those films (as well as others by Franco) -- will have to check them out again. Can't recall the mannequins but I can easily imagine him using them. thanks for the tip.

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The film is obviously detached from any reality: only women, no social structure, no money - The mannequins underline that, I feel. Plus it is part of the underlying current of humour in the film.

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I don't know what it meant, but I liked it. Pretty much how I felt about the rest of the movie. Of course, as soon as I noticed I distracted myself thinking: "I gotta get on IMDb when I get home and see if anyone can explain this."

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The 'science' lectures are a cover for a BDSM group who meet under the auspices of discussing butterflies and moths. The mannequin is either a prop used by the group or, perhaps, one of the participants' partners, crazy though that may sound. The film had a dream/psychotic like quality at times so what we see may not be a reality.

A bird sings and the mountain's silence deepens.

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Does this idea of yours come from a book?
There certainly wasn't any exposure of this idea from the set and actual dialog.
Not that I don't think anything is possible in real life settings such as this.

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No. The ideas come from my head. It's the way I made sense of what I was watching. Also Peter Strickland, the director and writer, explored the fine line between character reality/psychosis and the audience's sense of reality in his last film. Throughout Evelyn says that she has dreamt and wanted always what she is having/experiencing with Cynthia. We/I could be watching her dream, though I would prefer the dream is cut through with reality. I don't like films that are resolved by it being all being a dream or fantasy in a character's mind.

A bird sings and the mountain's silence deepens.

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I like your theory.

I also think it was there to represent the artificiality of their staged encounters and the reliance on costuming that one insisted upon the other (and by extension the ever present sartorial aspect in the sexual objectification of women). She didn't want her partner to be herself but an idealised mannequin of her own creation to which she could then project her inner fantasies on to. A little like Scottie and Madeleine in Hitchcock's Vertigo.

Good film. Dreamy, hermetic and almost sonambulistic in the best way possible. Like a crepuscular audio/visual album. Cocoons and emerging moths drawn to flickering flames in their short lives only to be pinned and observed under glass for their disquieting beauty. Nature in perpetual dessicated performance.

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Cocoons and emerging moths drawn to flickering flames in their short lives only to be pinned and observed under glass for their disquieting beauty. Nature in perpetual dessicated performance.
Beautiful description. I love the 'perpetual desiccated performance'.

I hadn't thought about the clothing as costumes and sexual objectification of women and by extension the role of a mannequin amidst this. Have you seen Berberian Sound Studio? You might like it though it lacks the languor of The Duke of Burgundy.
A bird sings and the mountain's silence deepens.

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Cheers.

Loved Berberian Sound Studio. Self-reflexive Giallo scored by Broadcast? Yes please.

Also loved Varga Katalin.

I dig Strickland all day long. Sly sense of humour, love of soundtracks and field recordings, the aesthetics of sleaze, pure cinema over plot without lapsing into unintelligible circle jerking. Ticks all my boxes.

I have a couple of recommendations for you:

1. Amer http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1426352/ - Giallo-esque audio/visual triptych that explores three sensual episodes that coalesce to define a woman's sexual ontology. Awesome visuals and a killer score culled from the finest 70s Italian film soundtracks.

2. Innocence http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375233/ - Haunting, dreamy female directed curio about the hinterland of adolescence viewed through the prism of a bizarre boarding school.

3. Pre-Cert Home Entertainment http://www.factmag.com/2010/10/29/demdike-stare-and-finders-keepers-la unch-pre-cert-home-entertainment/ - - Record label collab between Andy Votel and Demdike Stare that merges field recordings, soundtracks and analogue hauntology into hermetic perturbations.

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Thanks for the recommendations. I've seen Amer and Innocence. Never heard of Pre-Cert Home Entertainment. I will check it out. I love Peter Strickland's films thus far as well. Ben Wheatley's A Field in England has an amazing soundtrack and atmosphere - constant menace yet trippy and sad simultaneously.

viewed through the prism of a bizarre boarding school
Ha! Don't you mean through the prism of legs ..?!?
A bird sings and the mountain's silence deepens.

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hahaha - yes indeed.

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