Oh God I knew I was going to cringe all the way through this.


Man I don't care how many albums QR sold. They sucked. Randy Rhoads and Rudy Sarzo were smart to leave that band. Kevin Dubrow lol and Frankie Banali. Oh man and that whole glam 80's movement. Ugh please go home. This movement was a accident that happened. The only band that came out of it still with success with one foot is Van Halen. Every band you can think of was a one year wonder. They could not continue success and barely did after a year or two. Bon Jovi sucks Poison Motley Crew all of em. Ratt !!! had 1 or mmmm 3 or 4 great records and that was it. After Atlantic Records dropped them that was the really the end period.
I knew a documentary one day was going to made of this movement and Banali doesn't surprise me. This gets a 9.0 that's a joke right. I never seen anything get above a 8.5. I think one of Twisted Sister was already made so cross that off the list. I don't think I ever got through Metal Health or Mental Health. And the first two LP's in the late 70's the worst. Wish Randy was never on those. But man I give up you gotta do what you gotta do. But the movie I seen many of these. There very depressing and Christ what is Glenn Hughes doing in this. Original bands with a moment of success can be heartbreaking. A lot of people in this type of situation end up with this exact type of disturbing results.

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Why'd you bother watching it then?

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>> Oh man and that whole glam 80's movement. Ugh please go home. This movement was a accident that happened. The only band that came out of it still with success with one foot is Van Halen.<<

Ummmm. Van Halen was not part of the 80s glam metal scene at all! The first VH album came out in 1978 and they'd already had 5 successful albums before Quiet Riot had their first and biggest hit with "Metal Health". Plus, VH was never particularly "glam" compared to the 80s Sunset Strip bands.

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VH was pretty glam. The big hair. The spandex outfits. They inspired a lot of bands that came to be classified as "glam".

It's kind of like saying that Led Zeppelin was not "heavy metal". Maybe they weren't, but they inspired it.

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VH was pretty glam. The big hair. The spandex outfits. They inspired a lot of bands that came to be classified as "glam".


I would say that it was more David Lee Roth that was glam, and after he left he took most of that with him. Personally, I don't like the man, but I respect his showmanship, business sense and the ability to recruit good musicians. He's tacky as all hell, but he embraces that flaw, and tries to turn it into a positive. He pulled it off well until his age started showing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz5w06Naq0c

My favorite thing he ever did was "Eat 'Em and Smile". By hiring Steve Vai, Billy Sheehan, and Gregg Bissonette he showed that Van Halen was not just run by the Van Halen brothers, and his input was off the wall when he was left unchecked, but there was substance under all that spandex and chest hair. I'm a bit of a music nerd though, and enjoy pretty much all things involving Vai because of the things he can make a guitar do.

Also, when he left VH they lost something crucial to the foundation, and they never really got it back, at least for me. Then again, I really don't like Sammy Hagar, and I have no concrete reasoning behind it. He just doesn't have frontman appeal to me. Watching Van Halen redux was like watching a Beach Boys reunion, plenty of talent, but too safe and old to feel dangerous or sexy.

Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion.

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I was not a VH fan, but I certainly recognized that SH could not replace DLR. They became Journey with a better guitar player. Some of the SH stuff is just unbearable. I'll pick on one song: "So Nice". Ugh! Can you imagine DLR singing that?

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Agreed! I wouldn't say I was a "fan" of VH either, but I wouldn't change the station when they came on the radio. After Hagar joined, I was done after hearing a song around the third time.

There is no way DLR would ever do the stuff they were putting out after he left. Well, let me make one exception, after his lost his hair and was struggling to make a buck he might have. But the animosity was too thick for them to ever do that reunion they kept talking about.

As sad as it is, I think Journey managed to keep more sex appeal than VH once they picked up Hagar. I would say their sexiness was about on par with Rush. Not knocking Rush, but it was geek music. The auditory equivalent of a riveting game of Dungeons and Dragons.. cool enough for a group of guys, but you were never gonna hook a hot girl with that bait.
Never.

Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion.

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Ratt had five great albums. Their first album was so good, I'd put it in the same league as "Back in Black".

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It would be great to see a full and in depth documentary of that scene. Decline of western civilization 2 focused on the excesses but not the indfluences and music itself. Anyone have a recommendation for something like that? I don't like all the bands they mentioned in this doc but I certainly appreciate that it was a scene and has some interesting things that went on. It felt kind of sad though watching these guys feeling like they need to walk around like "rock stars" and portray an image that clearly is only still alive in their own minds. Some humility would be nice coming from guys whose moment passed 20 years ago. Overall though this was an interesting watch to learn a little bit about the band (although it didn't seem to go very deep), the politics and issues confronting them, the impact tragedies can have on the lives of those involved, and the idea that even though you may not be in your prime anymore it doesn't mean you don't love playing music still and want to express yourself onstage.

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